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post #38611 of 38733
2/24/13 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Does the 83 support any lossless files on USB or just mp3? I tried some wav files and it shows the folders on screen but no tunes.

The FAQ has this: What lossless audio file formats are supported?

-Bill
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post #38612 of 38733
2/24/13 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

The FAQ has this: What lossless audio file formats are supported?

-Bill

I should have mentioned that I read the FAQ which is why I was surprised I couldn't get WAV to work, being PCM based.
Thanks.
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post #38613 of 38733
2/24/13 at 7:08pm
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It is, but the hardware was just not designed to read WAV as a container. You would have to re-burn the files as CDDA.
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post #38614 of 38733
2/27/13 at 9:46am
The hardware is at fault? Don't you mean the Oppo software?
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post #38615 of 38733
2/27/13 at 11:32am
Has anyone done the upgrade from 83 to 83SE? The upgrade is just $199 on oppo's site. IS this a way to go or should I buy Oppo 105 if I am not interested in 3D, dual HDMI, streaming etc.? Does Oppo 83SE equal Oppo 105 audio or is it a significant upgrade?
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post #38616 of 38733
2/27/13 at 12:21pm
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Originally Posted by nakenergy View Post

Has anyone done the upgrade from 83 to 83SE? The upgrade is just $199 on oppo's site. IS this a way to go or should I buy Oppo 105 if I am not interested in 3D, dual HDMI, streaming etc.? Does Oppo 83SE equal Oppo 105 audio or is it a significant upgrade?
The 105 has better analog audio outputs than the 83SE. If you're also interested in the other new features, then the 105 is probably the better option than getting the SE upgrade.
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post #38617 of 38733
2/27/13 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by nakenergy View Post

Has anyone done the upgrade from 83 to 83SE? The upgrade is just $199 on oppo's site. IS this a way to go or should I buy Oppo 105 if I am not interested in 3D, dual HDMI, streaming etc.? Does Oppo 83SE equal Oppo 105 audio or is it a significant upgrade?

I'd add that the 103 is actually near equal to the 83SE in analog quality. You wouldn't necessarily NEED to go with a 105 unless the digital inputs and headphone amp are of interest. You can sell the 83, kick in $200 and come very close to the price of a 103. Dedicated stereo outputs would be the other thing to consider, the 103 doesn't have them.
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post #38618 of 38733
2/27/13 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

The hardware is at fault? Don't you mean the Oppo software?

Sometimes it is both, or just one. No matter how creative, software can't implement something that the hardware is unable to provide for it, given its available features.
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post #38619 of 38733
2/27/13 at 2:04pm
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I'd add that the 103 is actually near equal to the 83SE in analog quality. You wouldn't necessarily NEED to go with a 105 unless the digital inputs and headphone amp are of interest. You can sell the 83, kick in $200 and come very close to the price of a 103. Dedicated stereo outputs would be the other thing to consider, the 103 doesn't have them.

It is interesting to know that 103 is close to 83SE for analog audio; I might go with 103 then. Thanks!
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post #38620 of 38733
2/27/13 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by nakenergy View Post

It is interesting to know that 103 is close to 83SE for analog audio; I might go with 103 then. Thanks!

Like I said, for multichannel output it's almost identical to the 83SE. The dedicated stereo outs of the 83SE would be a little better than the 103 can offer.
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post #38621 of 38733
2/28/13 at 7:51am
I am at a late date, considering adding one of the boards to make my BDP-83 a multi region player (found the three and four musketeers from 1972 in the UK). However, I can't find any on ebay for it any more. Can anyone point me to a good source for a kit? I'd obviously prefer one that has a good reputation.

Thanks....
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post #38622 of 38733
2/28/13 at 7:59am
See if any of the sellers shown in the BDP-103 FAQ still offer -83 kits: Region Free Modifications.

I know bluraychip.dk does.

Reputation: i haven't tracked it closely, but people seemed to be more complimentary in the past.

-Bill
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post #38623 of 38733
2/28/13 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

See if any of the sellers shown in the BDP-103 FAQ still offer -83 kits: Region Free Modifications.

I know bluraychip.dk does.

Reputation: i haven't tracked it closely, but people seemed to be more complimentary in the past.

-Bill

Thanks Bill, appreciate it. Looks like bluraychip.dk and JVB Digital still do, but IMEGstore shows sold out.

Didn't check the other two out.
Edited by hernanu - 2/28/13 at 10:10am
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post #38624 of 38733
2/28/13 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Sometimes it is both, or just one. No matter how creative, software can't implement something that the hardware is unable to provide for it, given its available features.

Let's go out on a limb and talk about this specific case. They just needed to strip the headers off wav files, as raw PCM is obviously supported. Anyone could have done that, but not hardware.
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post #38625 of 38733
3/3/13 at 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The skinny is something like this: Dolby has several tiers to their encodings, and Brave, Finding Nemo, Total Recall, among others, are using the most recent tier. I'm going to call it "Dolby Digital 5" because I can't remember the technical name. The issue is that the platform that the BDP-8x of players use only support up to what I will call "Dolby Digital 4". The player's firmware will need to be upgraded to support "Dolby Digital 5". The kicker here is that due to the age of the decoder it is possible that the changes will not be made. MediaTek would need to be involved to enabled this newer Dolby Digital as this is a front-end decoder issue, and not a top level firmware issue.

I did get the dropout for several seconds (not exactly brief) on Brave but not Nemo. Will try Total Recall next.

I know newer players like the 103 don't have the problem, but what about the 93 and its cousin Cambridge 651BD?
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post #38626 of 38733
3/3/13 at 4:29pm
Thread Starter 
If the issues is due to downstream decoding, then all players will have these problems when using Bit Stream.
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post #38627 of 38733
3/3/13 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

If the issues is due to downstream decoding, then all players will have these problems when using Bit Stream.
Is this the HDMI digital track, I'm assuming, and not the regular digital tracks which are output to the coax and optical outs? My copy of "Brave" played back just fine on my 83SE and I heard no dropouts.
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post #38628 of 38733
3/3/13 at 6:03pm
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This depends on the receiver. If the receiver supports Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS-HD Master, then the source is high resolution and the receiver is attempting to decode it. Some receivers will not be able to properly decode these signals, which results in audio dropouts. The player will properly decode the audio, in high resolution, when using HDMI or multi-channel analog.
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post #38629 of 38733
3/3/13 at 6:13pm
Ok I did some more reading and some 93 users had the problem but most didn't so it would seem the 93 platform is borderline. However the 83 platform is certainly unable to get through Brave bitstreaming without a dropout - at least I have yet to hear anyone say they could.

I have not heard any theories until now that the receiver is at fault. People like Bob with both old and new Oppos have proved that.
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post #38630 of 38733
3/4/13 at 9:29am
^ I didn't get ANY dropouts while bitstreaming Brave, have played it twice (U.S. version), reported here way back. Therefore I obviously do not agree with the original quote a bit above as being correct for this problem, though it may be factually correct in general, but not relevant. There is something else going on.
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post #38631 of 38733
3/4/13 at 9:30am
I watched Brave (Blu-ray) on my BDP-83 bit-streaming to my Onkyo PR-SC885 without a single drop-out or hitch; both units have the latest firmware loaded.
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post #38632 of 38733
3/4/13 at 8:27pm
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Originally Posted by NeilPeart View Post

I watched Brave (Blu-ray) on my BDP-83 bit-streaming to my Onkyo PR-SC885 without a single drop-out or hitch; both units have the latest firmware loaded.

Part of the problem here is that these titles are being issued in multiple versions -- e.g., rental vs. retail, as just one example. In addition, the studios are, in some cases replacing the versions that caused the problem. So reports can differ according to which version you have and when you got it.
--Bob
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post #38633 of 38733
3/5/13 at 11:59am
Fair enough - my copy is a retail unit purchased via CostCo. I still have that Pinocchio Blu-ray that is missing a line of dialogue so I can understand the different "pressings" or releases. biggrin.gif
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post #38634 of 38733
3/12/13 at 7:23am
While Brave plays fine on my BDP-83 - Pioneer LX90 Susano without a dropout, Total Recall drops out badly, so badly it stops playing the audio altogether after a few minutes. The disk plays fine on my Pioneer BDP-430 - VSX920 system
I have written to service @ oppo to mention it, also that Promethius has difficulty starting but once started plays fine.
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post #38635 of 38733
3/12/13 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by Alicatt View Post

While Brave plays fine on my BDP-83 - Pioneer LX90 Susano without a dropout, Total Recall drops out badly, so badly it stops playing the audio altogether after a few minutes. The disk plays fine on my Pioneer BDP-430 - VSX920 system
I have written to service @ oppo to mention it, also that Promethius has difficulty starting but once started plays fine.

Are you using Bitstream audio and have you tried switching to LPCM?

-Bill
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post #38636 of 38733
3/20/13 at 12:11pm
Has anyone played the Alliance Canada version of DREDD? I bought it on an impulse because the price was cheap at Walmart, but haven't opened it yet so I wouldn't mind returning it.
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post #38637 of 38733
3/21/13 at 7:00am
^ I just got it recently too (sounded entertaining, was cheap...), and also haven't watched it yet. What's supposed to be wrong with it? I can check, I didn't plan to return it anyway (Alliance from amazon.ca).
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post #38638 of 38733
3/21/13 at 9:29am
^ Audio dropouts when bitstreaming DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1

Possibly only in 3D version:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460223/oppo-bdp-93-dredd-3d-playback-issues
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post #38639 of 38733
3/21/13 at 4:07pm

I have a old one how much can I sell it at?

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post #38640 of 38733
3/22/13 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by hernanu View Post

Thanks Bill, appreciate it. Looks like bluraychip.dk and JVB Digital still do, but IMEGstore shows sold out.
bluraychip.dk sucks! I've been trying to get information and they keep ignoring my emails.
First they answered one, then there was silence, then they answered one again and then silence again. Answering 2 out of 6 emails is terrible customer service and the chip they promised me in January is still not available for sale.
I went to rattlebyte.com and their service is better than excellent, even giving support in the weekend.
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