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post #38851 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Big Picture View Post

My 83 has never had a firmware update since purchased new over three years ago, it seems to be working fine, is there good reason to do an update now?

Thank you!

There's really no reason not to, and if there's ever any problems, that's the first thing Oppo support will ask you to do.
post #38852 of 39280
Help!

I was trying some different setting with my 83 today and ended up with large pillar bars on the top/bottom and sides of what is supposed to be a full screen 16:9 image. I can't figure out what I did wrong? Can anyone assist?

Thank you!
post #38853 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Big Picture View Post

Help!

I was trying some different setting with my 83 today and ended up with large pillar bars on the top/bottom and sides of what is supposed to be a full screen 16:9 image. I can't figure out what I did wrong? Can anyone assist?

Thank you!

Check that you have the output Resolution set to 1080p (not AUTO or SOURCE DIRECT), and confirm Setup > Video Setup > TV Aspect Ratio is "16:9 Wide/Auto". After checking that, if you still have a problem, then cycle through the Zoom modes (Zoom button on the remote) as you may have accidentally set the player to put out 1/2 image size.

If you fiddled with settings in your TV as well, the problem could be there, too.

Note that if you are playing an SD-DVD, you may have a "non-anamorphic -- letter-boxed" version of the SD-DVD. These are intended for playback on traditional, 4:3 TVs. And so a wide screen movie (say a 2.35 aspect ratio) would be displayed with black bars around all FOUR sides on a 16:9 display. The top and bottom bars are the normal letter-box bars that come from the movie being "wider than wide screen" -- i.e, a 2.35 aspect ratio wide-screen movie which is wider than the 1.78 shape of a 16:9 display. The left and right bars come from displaying content intended for a 4:3 TV on a 16:9 display. Ideally you should be looking for an SD-DVD which is "anamorphic" or "enhanced for 16:9 displays". But with a non-anamophic disc you can use "Full" Zoom (Zoom button on the remote) to view only the 16:9 subset in the middle of that image. I.e., you will Zoom in so that the pillar box bars on left and right go away, and the top and bottom letter-box bars are minimized as much as possible while still retaining the original aspect ratio of the movie (so that circles still look like circles instead of wide or tall ovals).

An anamorphic SD-DVD of the same movie will give you higher quality (better resolution) than using Full Zoom with a non-anamorphic SD-DVD. But if a non-anamorphic SD-DVD disc is all you have, then Zoom can help.
--Bob
post #38854 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Check that you have the output Resolution set to 1080p (not AUTO or SOURCE DIRECT), and confirm Setup > Video Setup > TV Aspect Ratio is "16:9 Wide/Auto". After checking that, if you still have a problem, then cycle through the Zoom modes (Zoom button on the remote) as you may have accidentally set the player to put out 1/2 image size.

If you fiddled with settings in your TV as well, the problem could be there, too.

Note that if you are playing an SD-DVD, you may have a "non-anamorphic -- letter-boxed" version of the SD-DVD. These are intended for playback on traditional, 4:3 TVs. And so a wide screen movie (say a 2.35 aspect ratio) would be displayed with black bars around all FOUR sides on a 16:9 display. The top and bottom bars are the normal letter-box bars that come from the movie being "wider than wide screen" -- i.e, a 2.35 aspect ratio wide-screen movie which is wider than the 1.78 shape of a 16:9 display. The left and right bars come from displaying content intended for a 4:3 TV on a 16:9 display. Ideally you should be looking for an SD-DVD which is "anamorphic" or "enhanced for 16:9 displays". But with a non-anamophic disc you can use "Full" Zoom (Zoom button on the remote) to view only the 16:9 subset in the middle of that image. I.e., you will Zoom in so that the pillar box bars on left and right go away, and the top and bottom letter-box bars are minimized as much as possible while still retaining the original aspect ratio of the movie (so that circles still look like circles instead of wide or tall ovals).

An anamorphic SD-DVD of the same movie will give you higher quality (better resolution) than using Full Zoom with a non-anamorphic SD-DVD. But if a non-anamorphic SD-DVD disc is all you have, then Zoom can help.
--Bob

Thanks for the response Bob!

I checked to make sure that I had the video settings as you describe and I did. I also checked the remote zoom and that is not the problem.

I am getting the pillar bars on the top, bottom and sides with SD DVD's and getting them on the sides only with Blu-Rays. I am outputing a PS-3 through the same Onkyo PR-SC5507 pre-pro to my JVC DLA-RS15 projector without the pillar bar problem.

Any more ideas?

Thanks
post #38855 of 39280
^ No. If the settings are as I described for the 83, then the problem is in the settings in your AVR or Display -- there must be something different in those for the settings used for the OPPO feed compared to the PS3 feed.
--Bob
post #38856 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ No. If the settings are as I described for the 83, then the problem is in the settings in your AVR or Display -- there must be something different in those for the settings used for the OPPO feed compared to the PS3 feed.
--Bob

Bob,

Strange, I didn't change anything in the AVR although I did go into the settings to confirm that it was set to pass through the video without any scaling. I did not go into the projector menus at all. I thought AVR video settings are global for all inputs, no? Maybe there is a Zoom thing in the AVR that I somehow changed but why would the PS-3 be fine and the 83 be out of whack??

Thanks.
Edited by Big Picture - 8/17/13 at 3:08pm
post #38857 of 39280
^ Video settings are most commonly remembered per-input -- not global.
--Bob
post #38858 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Check that you have the output Resolution set to 1080p (not AUTO or SOURCE DIRECT), and confirm Setup > Video Setup > TV Aspect Ratio is "16:9 Wide/Auto". After checking that, if you still have a problem, then cycle through the Zoom modes (Zoom button on the remote) as you may have accidentally set the player to put out 1/2 image size.

If you fiddled with settings in your TV as well, the problem could be there, too.

Note that if you are playing an SD-DVD, you may have a "non-anamorphic -- letter-boxed" version of the SD-DVD. These are intended for playback on traditional, 4:3 TVs. And so a wide screen movie (say a 2.35 aspect ratio) would be displayed with black bars around all FOUR sides on a 16:9 display. The top and bottom bars are the normal letter-box bars that come from the movie being "wider than wide screen" -- i.e, a 2.35 aspect ratio wide-screen movie which is wider than the 1.78 shape of a 16:9 display. The left and right bars come from displaying content intended for a 4:3 TV on a 16:9 display. Ideally you should be looking for an SD-DVD which is "anamorphic" or "enhanced for 16:9 displays". But with a non-anamophic disc you can use "Full" Zoom (Zoom button on the remote) to view only the 16:9 subset in the middle of that image. I.e., you will Zoom in so that the pillar box bars on left and right go away, and the top and bottom letter-box bars are minimized as much as possible while still retaining the original aspect ratio of the movie (so that circles still look like circles instead of wide or tall ovals).

An anamorphic SD-DVD of the same movie will give you higher quality (better resolution) than using Full Zoom with a non-anamorphic SD-DVD. But if a non-anamorphic SD-DVD disc is all you have, then Zoom can help.
--Bob

I found the problem. I had somehow inadvertently switched an AVR Video Zoom setting to Normal, changing that setting to Full seems to have fixed the problem. My SD DVD's and Blu-Rays look correct now.

Lesson learned.

Thanks for the assistance and education Bob!
post #38859 of 39280
^ Glad you found it! This stuff can be very confusing given the number of devices in the video chain that all try to offer "helpful" adjustments.
--Bob
post #38860 of 39280
What should the 83's Menu Setting be under Speaker Configuration if the HDMI output is going direct to a Pre/Pro? My other Audio settings are Bitstream.

Thank you!
post #38861 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Big Picture View Post

What should the 83's Menu Setting be under Speaker Configuration if the HDMI output is going direct to a Pre/Pro? My other Audio settings are Bitstream.

Thank you!

The Speaker Configuration settings are only for analog output. No effect on HDMI.

-Bill
post #38862 of 39280
I just did a 83 firmware update for the first time. Is it really necessary or just recommended to reset everything after the update to Default and re-enter my user settings (hate to miss something on re-entering)?

Thank you!
post #38863 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Big Picture View Post

I just did a 83 firmware update for the first time. Is it really necessary or just recommended to reset everything after the update to Default and re-enter my user settings (hate to miss something on re-entering)?

Thank you!

It is recommended but not usually required.

There is a setting checklist for you to print out and mark up with your values: http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-83_Settings_Checklist.pdf

-Bill
post #38864 of 39280
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It is recommended but not usually required.

There is a setting checklist for you to print out and mark up with your values: http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-83_Settings_Checklist.pdf

-Bill

Nice Check List Bill !

How would I know if my 83 needs a default/reset, it seems to be fine now?

Thank you!
post #38865 of 39280
As long as it works fine, you didn't need a factory reset. If you encounter problems you may need to do a factory reset. Sometimes when problems occur when you haven't done the factory reset and it was needed, you may need to re-install the firmware update and do a factory reset. This is rare but has been the case a couple of times. There was a particular firmware update fairly early in the history of the 83x models that absolutely required a factory reset. You can look at the first posting in this thread and see which particular upgrade this was.
post #38866 of 39280
You can't know for sure. I always do it. The new settings are embedded in my subconscious by now.

Usually it is ok to skip it. Whenever OPPO has added new Setup menu items it has been necessary, but that doesn't happen often.

It has been our suspicion that Reset zeros out some internal registers that may need it from time to time.

-Bill
post #38867 of 39280
Just wanted to give all you hard-working OPPO experts here an attaboy for all your time and expertise. My brother wanted to watch the dreaded OPPO jamming Universal pre-quel of The Thing on my 83 in the living room. Of course it refused to play ( had no problems at all with the 103 in my HT) but went to the FAQ followed the instructions for a no load or freezing blu-ray and voila! It started up no problems. Keep up the good work.
post #38868 of 39280
Can you create a playlist of MP3s on a computer and save it to a flash drive that the 83 will read and play from? If so what format does the playlist need to be in? I tried searching this forum and google but didn't get any results that looked appropriate for the question..
Thanks.
post #38869 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pkeegan View Post

Can you create a playlist of MP3s on a computer and save it to a flash drive that the 83 will read and play from? If so what format does the playlist need to be in? I tried searching this forum and google but didn't get any results that looked appropriate for the question..
Thanks.

In a word: no. But it will simply play all files in a given folder, in order, so you can create folders with the files you want to play.
post #38870 of 39280
Hello!

I was wondering if anyone here knows whether if I back up my Blu-ray to an AVC file using the High@L5 level, if it will play either in an MKV file or in a proper BDMV (Blu-ray) disc format? All previous MKV's and BDMV discs play the High L4.1 just fine.

Thank you!!!
post #38871 of 39280
The blu-ray "Coldplay Live 2012" only has audio but no video. I downloaded the latest firmware BDP83-59-0117 succesfully but I still have the same problem. Any ideas?

Ed
post #38872 of 39280
Well, to answer my OWN post, the player will definitely NOT play High@L5 properly. It does play, but is highly pixelated. So, I had to re-encode the movie to L4.1 and it looks beautiful smile.gif

Just in case anyone else comes across the same situation. I don't feel TOO bad that no one answered here. Even OPPO Service didn't know the answer since all they dealt with was L4.1 or lower. Higher levels just are NOT for hardware players.... Besides they support ridiculous bit rates like 60,000 which has no practical purpose with BD applications.
post #38873 of 39280
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Originally Posted by ekb View Post

The blu-ray "Coldplay Live 2012" only has audio but no video. I downloaded the latest firmware BDP83-59-0117 succesfully but I still have the same problem. Any ideas?

Ed

Is this an import or a US Blu-ray?

What is your resolution set at? What happens if you cycle through the various resolutions?

-Bill
post #38874 of 39280
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Originally Posted by ekb View Post

The blu-ray "Coldplay Live 2012" only has audio but no video. I downloaded the latest firmware BDP83-59-0117 succesfully but I still have the same problem. Any ideas?

Ed

You must be playing the (poorly marked) CD. Put in the (poorly marked) BD. It works on my '83.
post #38875 of 39280
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

You must be playing the (poorly marked) CD. Put in the (poorly marked) BD. It works on my '83.

That was it. I figured it out just after I posted. I didn't even see the BD disk since it was on the other side of the case under the pamphlet. And as you say, both disks are cluttered with art and it's almost impossible to see the CD/BD markings.

Ed
post #38876 of 39280
Hello all,

Please forgive me if this has been asked and answered but I use my new to me Oppo-83 for movies only, and am not exactly thrilled by its sound quality as a digital transport. So, I'm looking for suggestions for modifications (if possible), that will provide a more fuller, richer, natural sound...something comparable to my Arcam DV139 would be perfect. By the way, I route the HDMI Out directly to my display, and Digital Optical/Coaxial to my audio system, if any of this matters. Not interested in using the analog section at all as music is handled by my separate, 2-channel rig.

Anyway, your input is much appreciated. Thanks!
post #38877 of 39280
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Originally Posted by ab2ab View Post

Hello all,

Please forgive me if this has been asked and answered but I use my new to me Oppo-83 for movies only, and am not exactly thrilled by its sound quality as a digital transport. So, I'm looking for suggestions for modifications (if possible), that will provide a more fuller, richer, natural sound...something comparable to my Arcam DV139 would be perfect. By the way, I route the HDMI Out directly to my display, and Digital Optical/Coaxial to my audio system, if any of this matters. Not interested in using the analog section at all as music is handled by my separate, 2-channel rig.

Anyway, your input is much appreciated. Thanks!
The 83 has excellent internal DACs. Have you tried the analog 2-channel outputs for your CD playback? They're "not too shabby!" Also, what are you using for an outboard DAC in your 2-channel rig? If it is satisfactory to you, you may wish to upgrade to a better digital cable, coax preferably.
post #38878 of 39280
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Originally Posted by ab2ab View Post

Hello all,

Please forgive me if this has been asked and answered but I use my new to me Oppo-83 for movies only, and am not exactly thrilled by its sound quality as a digital transport. So, I'm looking for suggestions for modifications (if possible), that will provide a more fuller, richer, natural sound...something comparable to my Arcam DV139 would be perfect. By the way, I route the HDMI Out directly to my display, and Digital Optical/Coaxial to my audio system, if any of this matters. Not interested in using the analog section at all as music is handled by my separate, 2-channel rig.

Anyway, your input is much appreciated. Thanks!
The Oppo factory modification to an 83SE configuration has been available periodically from Oppo. It is a significant improvement since it replaces the 83's standard DACs and also upgrades the analog circuitry. It was available again fairly recently and may still be available. Check with Oppo. The cost was quite reasonable compared to other mods out there and I can tell you from personal experience that the result was very, very, very good.
post #38879 of 39280
He said "not exactly thrilled by its sound quality as a digital transport".

This usually points to a setup error. For example using SPDIF interface and getting a lossy bitstream or PCM down-mix instead of using HDMI and getting the lossless bitstream or full-bandwidth PCM.
post #38880 of 39280
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Originally Posted by William Moore View Post

The 83 has excellent internal DACs. Have you tried the analog 2-channel outputs for your CD playback? They're "not too shabby!" Also, what are you using for an outboard DAC in your 2-channel rig? If it is satisfactory to you, you may wish to upgrade to a better digital cable, coax preferably.

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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

The Oppo factory modification to an 83SE configuration has been available periodically from Oppo. It is a significant improvement since it replaces the 83's standard DACs and also upgrades the analog circuitry. It was available again fairly recently and may still be available. Check with Oppo. The cost was quite reasonable compared to other mods out there and I can tell you from personal experience that the result was very, very, very good.

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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

He said "not exactly thrilled by its sound quality as a digital transport".

This usually points to a setup error. For example using SPDIF interface and getting a lossy bitstream or PCM down-mix instead of using HDMI and getting the lossless bitstream or full-bandwidth PCM.

Thanks guys.

Let me clarify that I don't intend to use the BDP-83 for music at all. I listen to music through a completely separate hi-fi system. The Oppo 83 is among other blu ray players that I own for HT purposes only. What I don't particularly care for is its articulate, somewhat thin sound characteristic. Further, none of my Oppo DVD players sound like this as they provide a more immersive, "theatrical" sound. I prefer a fuller, richer sound with a little bit more body than what I'm hearing from the 83. Additionally, everything is connected properly and I'm using either the Optical or Coaxial digital output. I do not use HDMI to transmit audio and can't see how it would make a difference if I did.

Hopefully there's a reasonably priced mod that I can have done on the digital audio side. If not, the 83's stay here will be short-lived.

Thanks. smile.gif
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