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post #4261 of 38733
3/21/09 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

"They" been sayin that for a couple YEARS, yet OPPO's still a success.

For one thing, Oppo is in no hurry because their products are not forced into re-designs every 6 months to compete heavily in the market place along with big names. When they are introduced, they stay around a long time.

They are more select products that rely more on word-of-mouth as well as rave reviews.

If someone can not not relate to that, then continue to buy Panasonic, Sony, Samsung, etc.... that's not a condemnation, if you are interested in more basic players with very good performance those are fine alternatives.
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post #4262 of 38733
3/21/09 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Oppo is sold online only, either direct from Oppo or from a couple resellers.

That's what I was thinking. If true, Music Direct will probably have it, as they sell Oppo products. But there's no comparison opportunity then. I have a DVDO Edge, so the two should work together. But i'd still like to find a place to see it; perhaps a DVDO dealer (there's one not terribly far from me).
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post #4263 of 38733
3/21/09 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Cruce View Post

There is a new cable from PPC http://www.thomas-pr.com/pressreleas...mirelease.html that is worth looking at because of its locking feature. The one thing about HDMI connectors that has always caused me problems is having them come unconnected or partially unconnected. I believe their 3 footer is about $50.


Or you could just get these locks and use them on your existing cables.

Cable Locks
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post #4264 of 38733
3/21/09 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Up to you, but for the money the BDP-83 with Anchor Bay VRS processing, multiple zooms, PS3 like speed, and the best technical support around is only $100 more then the DMP-BD80. Can't wait a couple of weeks?

I agree with yourtoys. If a couple of weeks meant 2 weeks, I would wait. With the send EAP not getting there units until late next week, it will be 3 weeks minimum if not longer. We don't even know if Oppo will have enough supply for the supposed demand (25k) and that could push the delay out farther (like the had DV-980H). I don't know how pissed I would be if I did not get the invite for the general sale (as I have been waiting months). We don't even know if they will keep the price $499 as it might be $599 for general release, so it might be $200 more.

It is not like the DMP-BD80 doesn't have its pluses too like Internet streaming. I know that the quailty is not there, but know alot of my friends are asking if it I could hook a computer up to stream youtube (but I realized I could use my PS3 for that). We don't even know if the DMP-BD80 is as fast a the PS3 (I know it is built on the DMP-BD55, but there is a chance). With broadband speeds increasing daily, Amazon might offer 1080p streaming (and maybe they will add netflix).

The question is still moot until the DMP-BD80 arrives.
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post #4265 of 38733
3/21/09 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Not nearly as many buyers as they would lose by shipping the product before it is finished...
--Bob

I don't know if that is true. All reports from the EAPers says that it is most stable unit they ever had; production or not. The only thing that Oppo would get nailed on is saying they offer DVD-A when it currently does not. The people that even know about Oppo have go to be tech savy enough to know they will eventually get an update, so I don't think releasing early would hurt (as it seems ready).
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post #4266 of 38733
3/21/09 at 12:44pm
I wonder when the BDP-83 is released will Oppo contact those who signed up for the EAP list and give them first chance at buying the BDP-83? I feel that the lottery system for the first and second EAP was a fair way to do it.

Although I was not chosen for the EAP I feel Oppo should contact people who showed interest (E-mail to Oppo) in the order that people responded. If you were one of the first to request to be put on the list to be contacted with information on the BDP-83 you should get first chance to buy it. Almost like a preorder list. Just a thought and it would be a nice way for Oppo to take care of the people that showed interest early on. By the way I have no idea where I would fall on this list.

Bill
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post #4267 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by hdtvluvr View Post

Or you could just get these locks and use them on your existing cables.

Cable Locks

IMHO, two cable locks for $20 is outrageous.
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post #4268 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I wonder when the BDP-83 is released will Oppo contact those who signed up for the EAP list and give them first chance at buying the BDP-83? I feel that the lottery system for the first and second EAP was a fair way to do it.

Although I was not chosen for the EAP I feel Oppo should contact people who showed interest (E-mail to Oppo) in the order that people responded. If you were one of the first to request to be put on the list to be contacted with information on the BDP-83 you should get first chance to buy it. Almost like a preorder list. Just a thought and it would be a nice way for Oppo to take care of the people that showed interest early on. By the way I have no idea where I would fall on this list.

Bill

(Emphasis above added by me) Read the second paragraph of Second Round Early Adoption Program. It addresses it.

MC
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post #4269 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:09pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I wonder when the BDP-83 is released will Oppo contact those who signed up for the EAP list and give them first chance at buying the BDP-83? I feel that the lottery system for the first and second EAP was a fair way to do it.

Although I was not chosen for the EAP I feel Oppo should contact people who showed interest (E-mail to Oppo) in the order that people responded. If you were one of the first to request to be put on the list to be contacted with information on the BDP-83 you should get first chance to buy it. Almost like a preorder list. Just a thought and it would be a nice way for Oppo to take care of the people that showed interest early on. By the way I have no idea where I would fall on this list.

Bill

You might be in luck.

On the Oppo EAP page it says the following:

"If a supermajority (at least 70%) votes "Yes" because they feel that the player is ready, we will release it to the generic public. Customers who signed up on the OPPO BDP-83 interest list early will be given a higher priority to purchase a unit."
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post #4270 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I wonder when the BDP-83 is released will Oppo contact those who signed up for the EAP list and give them first chance at buying the BDP-83? I feel that the lottery system for the first and second EAP was a fair way to do it.

Although I was not chosen for the EAP I feel Oppo should contact people who showed interest (E-mail to Oppo) in the order that people responded. If you were one of the first to request to be put on the list to be contacted with information on the BDP-83 you should get first chance to buy it. Almost like a preorder list. Just a thought and it would be a nice way for Oppo to take care of the people that showed interest early on. By the way I have no idea where I would fall on this list.

Bill

This is the reply I received from Oppo:
Michael,

When it comes to pre-orders, we will be weighing invitations to purchase the player based off of when you were added to the Blu-ray Interest List and if you had shown explicit interest in the Early Adoption Program.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
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post #4271 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by GotHDTV? View Post

...We don't even know if they will keep the price $499 as it might be $599 for general release, so it might be $200 more....

Fuzzy on math this fine day??? Why get worked up for now dealing with pricing conjecture?
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post #4272 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:25pm
Uh, didn't I mention supply before? Just because you're on the list doesn't mean you'll make the cut on their first shipment. I like I said (and had been said in the other BDP-83 thread) look what happened with the DV-980H.
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post #4273 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:27pm
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Originally Posted by Adinn View Post

This is the reply I received from Oppo:
Michael,

When it comes to pre-orders, we will be weighing invitations to purchase the player based off of when you were added to the Blu-ray Interest List and if you had shown explicit interest in the Early Adoption Program.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.

Hmmmm, that leads one to wonder how they'll weigh those who signed up on their BD interest list (like me) BEFORE the existence of an EAP was announced???? I couldn't express an interest in something that didn't exist at that time, hmmmmm....
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post #4274 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Fuzzy on math this fine day??? Why get worked up for now dealing with pricing conjecture?

I'm not. JohnAV said why not wait for the BDP-83 over the DMP-BD80 when it will have better parts and is only $100 more. I made the point that we do not know the actual price.
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post #4275 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

IMHO $50 for a 3 ft. HDMI cable is outrageous.

Even if it does something unique?
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post #4276 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:30pm
Had anyone of you ever had their player modified by Custom HT and are there any whone will eventually buy the BDP-83 and get it mod by custom HT, i'm really interested in their "Ultimate Analog Audio Ed" version and am curious of your comment of that future upgrade. i'm willing to pay the price but it has to be worth it.

Thanks
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post #4277 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:31pm
Getting excited for a tracking number monday...just listed my panny 55 on ebay and craigslist!
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post #4278 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:32pm
Hi John:

I received an invitation on Thursday and ordered yesterday.

tpw904
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post #4279 of 38733
3/21/09 at 1:44pm
I understand all the frustration out there in regards to getting your hands on the BDP-83. I was fortunate to get in the 2nd round of 300. If I hadn't I would have been upset but the bottom line is I would still wait as long as it took to buy this player.

Like it or not The OPPO BDP-83 is the best Blu-ray/DVD player you can buy for under $1K and one could argue it's as good as the $1K to $5K players.

OPPO wants to release this player to the general public more then the general public wants to buy it. One of the things that separates OPPO from other companies is their quality and customer service. If OPPO were like other companies the BDP-83 would have been released last Christmas, CNET would have given it a bad review and the relatively small customer base that OPPO attracts would have been damaged.

In a couple of months all this bickering will be long forgotten
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post #4280 of 38733
3/21/09 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Even if it does something unique?

With all due respect, Kal, do you mean something unique like actually passing a 1080p signal with 7.1 lossless audio? What else could there be?
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post #4281 of 38733
3/21/09 at 2:20pm
Hello,
Locking HDMI connectors are a great idea. I do not know about you, but I cannot tell you how many times when helping folks troubleshoot has the problem been simply a loose HDMI connection.

It seems the Pear Audio, AQ battery pack backlash extends to fairly reasonably priced cables. When 50 dollars for a well made cable with a unique connector is deemed extravagant...
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post #4282 of 38733
3/21/09 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by FTWMike View Post

(Emphasis above added by me) Read the second paragraph of Second Round Early Adoption Program. It addresses it.

MC

Mike,

Thanks for the link, I missed that even though I read it awhile back.

Adinn and Barry18025 thanks as well. It looks like Oppo will give people who e-mailed them early on preference which is what I thought they would do.

Bill
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post #4283 of 38733
3/21/09 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by fitzcaraldo215 View Post

With all due respect, Kal, do you mean something unique like actually passing a 1080p signal with 7.1 lossless audio? What else could there be?

Nope. I was referring to the latching connector that does not require any hardware mods of the connected devices.
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post #4284 of 38733
3/21/09 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by Robert Cook View Post

Well, with the video codecs being forward-biased, it might be difficult to consistently retrieve the previous I frame in time to keep reverse motion completely smooth. Were previous OPPO players able to play in reverse smoothly?

Yes, as have many players beyond the first generation of DVD players. In those early days I never thought it would be possible. But it is.
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post #4285 of 38733
3/21/09 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by hdtvluvr View Post

Or you could just get these locks and use them on your existing cables.

Cable Locks

Those are really cool! Thanks for the info. At the price they are expensive for short cables and much more complex than the PPC locking cables I mentioned. But for long, expensive cables they look like just the ticket.
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post #4286 of 38733
3/21/09 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by FTWMike View Post

I couldn't express an interest in something that didn't exist at that time, hmmmmm....

Everyone, including the people who received the e-mail on December 12, had to reply to the OPPO e-mail or send them an e-mail which showed their explicit interest in the BDP-83 Early Adoption Program.

If you had signed up for the Blu-ray Interest List, even before it became public, you were never directly told to show an interest in the Early Adoption Program. The reason: the Early Adoption Program did not exist until February 24th. By the time February 24th rolled around, any interest in the Early Adoption Program was no longer a factor in their selection scheme, so it was no mentioned.

All "Explicit Interest" nomenclature came from the forums, were we encouraged people in the previous OPPO threads to e-mail OPPO to show that they were explicitly interested in the program. The reason why it was encouraged was that, back in December 12, no one knew how OPPO would select the individuals for the program, so it was believed that if you showed an explicit interest, then you would receive a priority in the selection.

This priority exists, but not in the way people originally wanted it to be. Now the explicit interest will be used as a priority system for pre-ordering.

Just e-mail BDP-83@OPPODigital.com and tell them that you are explicitly interested in the Early Adoption Program. They will update your entry in the Blu-ray Interest List and will, presumably, give you first dibs on pre-ordering.
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post #4287 of 38733
3/21/09 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by doccoffin View Post

Most quality receivers will downmix 7.1 to 5.1 automatically. I suspect that a real minority actually have a 7.1 system. I know I don`t and with a 10x12 room it is not likely to change. The difference in surround is minimal anyway judging by other systems I have heard.

If set up correctly, the difference from 5.1 to 7.1 is much more than minimal...trust me...I'll never go back to 5.1. Not to mention there are blu-ray discs with 7.1 HD audio, so you're missing out on something really special
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post #4288 of 38733
3/21/09 at 4:04pm
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Originally Posted by Dragonfly47 View Post

IMHO, two cable locks for $20 is outrageous.

A little duct tape properly used might be a cheap alternative.

Joe
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post #4289 of 38733
3/21/09 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by dogone View Post

If set up correctly, the difference from 5.1 to 7.1 is much more than minimal...trust me....

Today, I looked at my accumulated library of BluRay discs that I've been collecting prior to getting the Oppo player. Of the approximately 25 discs, only 2 or 3 of them are 7.1, and some, although much older, are even 2.0! Most discs, while lossless codecs, are still in 5.1. My new setup is 7.1, but I'm a bit put off by the lack of true lossless 7.1 support on BluRay discs.
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post #4290 of 38733
3/21/09 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by billymerritt View Post

Checked my order status and have tracking number as of today! Guess it will actually ship on Monday 2 day FedEx. Wow, sooner than I thought!

Same here! Woo-hoo! Mine shows it shipped today and has a tracking #!
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