Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 157

You've got it. Or, if you want to play with the multichannel analog output, you can do so with 5.1 sources (DVD-Audio, SACD, and a lot of Blu-ray discs) with downmix set to 5.1.

It's not. That's, in part, why I posed the question. I had expected the Setup program to either recognize that HDMI was not being used for audio and not allow DSD to be selected or that it would simply default to PCM somewhere in the process.

This morning, I discovered that the OPPO had done the latter. Even though I had selectd DSD last night for SACD playback, when I played an SACD this morning and took a look at the Setup page, it had reverted to PCM. I guess the OPPO wait until you "refresh" the setup before it lets you in on the fact that it didn't take the DSD setting and went to PCM. Mystery solved.

My question was more related to the Setup protocols in the OPPO. Setup allowed me to select DSD. I would have expected the OPPO to sense that there was not a digital pathway available and not allow DSD to be selected. As it turns out, it defaults to PCM under those circumstances, it just doesn't let you know until after you "refresh" the Setup page. Not a big thing, just interesting.

Thanks. I ordered a couple of DVD-As to play with the Oppo DV-981HD vs. the BDP-83. Still not a lot of TrueHD or DTS-HD titles available.

Even if it could sense the lack of a digital pathway for DSD, that option also applies to analog output (the DSD bitstream goes straight to the DAC), so it would be counter-productive to disable that control.

TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio are starting to be more common, although 7.1 tracks remain scarce. I've got almost as many DTS-HD MA discs now as I do multichannel PCM discs, with TrueHD just a few spots behind DTS-HD MA. Finding out what is on a disc before you order can be tough, though - Amazon.com in particular seems to make no effort to figure out that information.

Please the the appropriate forum(s) for non-player related inquiries. Thanks.

larry

You are mistaken about the setup and how it works. Suggest re-reading the manual in the relevant section. For analog output, you still have DSD or PCM options, determining which is sent to the DAC. Using DSD will bypass all the speaker setup and bass management.

Indeed they do, they just proved it to me!

I am happy to say they are sending out a replacement today. As this is my only DVD/BD player, I'm going to be out of commission for a few days. At least they're doing a cross-ship.

Sucks to be down, but OPPO is handling this about as awesomely as anyone could ask. They're even going to mail me back the DVD once they get it out. Kudos to them.

You can tweak the speaker distances in the Speaker Configuration section of Setup for the analog outputs (see manual, ppg 58-59). Distances are set in 1ft increments. Is that what you need/want?

The HDMI lipsync stuff is applied enmasse to the whole HDMI audio signal, not per speaker, and is for exactly as you say: audio-video sync.

If sending audio via HDMI, your receiver should apply the relative speaker distances, rather than the player.

Or have I missed what you were trying to say?

shinksma

Yeah, probably just a bunk unit. Can't expect electronics to never fail. I think out of the EAP units in the wild, this is the first one we have heard of that seems to have a hardware failure (not bad!) You'll be up and going again soon enough.

Received my player today, but probably won't get a chance to hook it up until Friday. I do have a handful of BD movies and 20+ SD DVD's I can test and I now own 3 DVD-A and 2 SACD's, with 2 more DVD-A's coming.

Nathan, many thanks for that comment - although I'm obviously looking for a BD player, it would make the layout of my rack so much better if a single device could also handle my existing PAL region 0 disks (of which I have many).
Every other US-model BD player for which I've seen the specs, explicitly states that it does not handle PAL DVDs - so OPPO get a big thumbs up from me for doing this.
Do you know if it can take a PAL R0 disk and output it via HDMI as either 1080i/60 or 1080i/50 dependent on the display's capabilities?

Possibly st00pid question, arguably OT:

Is there a market for a niche room optimization processor that oppo might offer as they did with their HDMI switcher? Stubby HDMI to the outboard oppo EQ, 7.1 analog to AVR? I wonder also if would have to be cost prohibitive, I'm guessing it would need to be sub $150 to be a cost effective solution.

As one of many with a tragically family-supporting living room > HT, I know it would make more sense for me to buy a new AVR, but I hate change anyway and I am happy, etc. etc.

The only time I have heard this mentioned was to salvage quite expensive equipment, made me wonder if a truly simple unit could prove profitable for oppo.

It can output PAL or NTSC, user selectable, or be set to do both depending on the source content.

I output it as 1080p (60hz). I have the setting for 1080p24 conversion for DVDs "on", but it didn't work for the PAL DVD (though it works great on the NTSC DVD I tried).

Note, I wouldn't expect the conversion to 1080p24 to work for PAL DVDs but it would have been cool!

I hope he didn't let the magic smoke out...

I just got mine set up. I am connected to my processor via analog for the time being. Can't wait to get the audio set up with HDMI but am waiting for the Meridian board which I hope to receive in the next few weeks.

Plugged it into my LAN as well. Set up the network configuration and checked for new firmware. It said I already had the latest. So the LAN part seems to be working fine. There is also a setting to be notified when there are FW updates, which is good.

Using the DSD setting (IIUC the PCM setting will just convert from DSD to PCM so why do an extra conversion?). Played a DVD-A and a SACD with no problems.

Popped in the Bond Casino Royale BR and no problems. Unfortunately it doesn't have one of the new HD audio formats. Picture is great but I'm using source direct setting on the Oppo to let my Radiance VP do all the video work. I didn't notice any lipsync problems.

One thing I noticed is that I have to crank the volume up much higher on my Meridian processor with the Oppo as a source via analog. I don't think there is any way to adjust that from within the Oppo. Not a big deal unless I switch audio sources when the Meridian volume control is cranked for Oppo. That work hurt....

Oh. I can also confirm that the ir codes from the other Oppos work with this one. On my Pronto remote I used the same Oppo command setup as for my 980 and no problems. I did the entire set up and playback control through the Pronto. I haven't even taken the Oppo remote out of the plastic.

Mine had a slip of paper in it saying something along the lines of "Updated manual available on oppo.com"

The FedEx guy brought me a present this morning

Thanks for the picture of the box...we've never seen one!

Is that the EAP-2 box, or did they go into production mode on shipping cartons?

Mine too. But I had already read the online version (which, as many of you know, has "preliminary" stamped all over it).

I don't see an option to choose 25hz output from a PAL DVD. Is that done by choosing PAL instead of NTSC output AND 1080p24 conversion for DVDs?

If so, I probably won't bother because I don't want everything to default to PAL output....

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For you members of "the 300", remember what the Oppo site says:

Liar. Just maybe the first one to post pictures. Names withheld to protect the guilty, but a certain beta-tester opened his to place temp probes.

In my defense: all work was done on an anti-static workstation, fully-grounded. Nothing was touched on the inside except for the analog audio board, which was only handled by the edges and only enough to disconnect the cables, which was done carefully. Acknowledging that this part was indeed handled, when the power-on issue surfaced I tried disconnecting it again (in-place) to see if something about that board was preventing powering on but the problem remained. So yes, a seemingly incriminating coincidence but I do feel I'm not the cause.

Ok. So what is your point? Please give us some time to use them before we start firing off votes.

I just heard FLEETWOOD MAC with DVD AUDIO and it sounded fantastic!!!!! This is a very hard disc to purchase as i have tried for a year an just won on E-BAY last week.No problem playing the disc.

So, what does that make the defect rate? ~2% That's kinda scary.

Wait, which one? Rumours or Say You Will? Rumours was the 1 disc I had (out of about 50) that AFTER playing would lock up my Panny CP72...