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post #61 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:22pm
The last time I was this excited about a product was when I was
about to receive my Pioneer PRO-151.
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post #62 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:22pm
I am one of the Fortunate 50. Over the years, I have received some very good information and advise, as well as respectful answers to many of my questions on this Forum. I have what probably would be described as a mid-level knowledge of all things home theatre, and have a mid-level system as well (Samsung 67" 750 LED DLP TV which replaced a Pioneer Elite Pro 730 RPCRT TV, a new Pioneer Elite receiver, a Toshiba XA2 HDDVD player, a Oppo 983H, and a number of Blu Ray players including the Pioneer 51FD, Panasonic BD-35, and LG BH-200. I use Monoprice cables.

I would be happy to now give back to this Forum by testing out or trying out the various features and goodies the BDP-83. I expect to receive my player soon since I live in Northern California, a couple hundred miles from Mountain View.

If you like, please post what you would like me to test out on the BDP-83 and/or observe, and Ill report my findings back to this Forum.
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post #63 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:24pm
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

Wow, they let in people from Jersey?

I was shocked too.

Feels like I won the lottery.
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post #64 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by rrollens View Post

I am one of the Fortunate 50. Over the years, I have received some very good information and advise, as well as respectful answers to many of my questions on this Forum. I have what probably would be described as a mid-level knowledge of all things home theatre, and have a mid-level system as well (Samsung 67" 750 LED DLP TV which replaced a Pioneer Elite Pro 730 RPCRT TV, a new Pioneer Elite receiver, a Toshiba XA2 HDDVD player, a Oppo 983H, and a number of Blu Ray players including the Pioneer 51FD, Panasonic BD-35, and LG BH-200. I use Monoprice cables.

I would be happy to now give back to this Forum by testing out or trying out the various features and goodies the BDP-83. I expect to receive my player soon since I live in Northern California, a couple hundred miles from Mountain View.

If you like, please post what you would like me to test out on the BDP-83 and/or observe, and Ill report my findings back to this Forum.

+1

I'd be glad to test anything for my fellow avs members.
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post #65 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Under-priced by about $200 IMHO. Under-priced by about $3700 according to Denon.

Actually, according to the new Denon hubris, about $4,001.00 under-priced. Have you seen the latest posting for the Denon DVD-A1UDC1 at their site -- UNBELIEVABLE !!!

But, C'mon now !!! $499.00 is a totally justifiable and reasonable price, and it would just spell total doom and damnation for Oppo to even think about increasing it for the official release . You beta-testers and EAP winners should not screw with us-others' already somewhat despondent and delicate loser-mentalities.

-- da Choge
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post #66 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:36pm
I'd like to know the extent of adjustments for analog audio.

Does it have adjustable crossover, distance as well as individual level adjustments?
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post #67 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:39pm
Congratulations to the first 12 that have reported.
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post #68 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:47pm
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Does it have adjustable crossover, distance as well as individual level adjustments?

One difference this time around is that the Speaker adjustments only effects the analog outputs. HDMI, even when HDMI is sending a LPCM signal, is unaffected by the Speaker adjustments.

No adjustable cross-over. It is set to 80Hz (like the previous OPPO products). This is something I have requested to be updated in a future firmware release, as I am more concerned about hammering down the core performance of the player first.

Speaker Distances are set like the previous players as pairs and the Surround and Rear Surround speakers can't be set further from the listening position than the Front speakers.

Channel Trims are set per speaker +/-10dB.
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post #69 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:52pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Speaker Distances are set like the previous players as pairs and the Surround and Rear Surround speakers can't be set further from the listening position than the Front speakers.

Why do you think that is? i saw this on another player once before...or maybe it was a receiver.


My fronts are 11 feet from seating position while my rears are more like 13 feet.
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post #70 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:54pm
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

I disagree.

Jim -

You disagree that $499.00 would be a fair official release price or do you disagree that early-adopters have to pay $499.00 (which possibly could become $599.00 @ official release; at least according to previous posts)? I know what you're saying, but to be involved with a product development like the BDP-83, even on a secondary/tertiary level, would be totally worth it to me. But, sadly, Oppo did not invite me to participate; if they did, I would have jumped at the chance without any regrets. In any case, I trust that you realize my post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

-- da Choge (john)

PS. And I don't think that many, if any, early adopter selectees are bugged about their status.
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post #71 of 38737
2/25/09 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by vancouver View Post

Why do you think that is? i saw this on another player once before...or maybe it was a receiver.

It has to do with the way that Dolby Digital recommends decoding multi-channel audio. In order to use the player for Channel Distance compensation, you can't have the Surrounds or Rear Surrounds further than your main speakers. If they are further, just leave them at the same distance setting as the mains.
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post #72 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:02pm
Well after getting an EAP email from Oppo yesterday I thought I would be one of them , so I canceled my order for a BDP-51FD from 6th Ave. Electronics. But I guess not. After thinking about it I guess maybe its not so bad , heck it may not be as great of a player as expected.

I guess if there is anything id like the early adopters to do , its just one think. When you get your BDP-83 , plug it in and fire it up expecting to find faults. I wanna see some hardcore very critical reviews. Just be honest and do you best to find its faults early adopters. That is all I ask.
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post #73 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:08pm
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Oh, if you want critical, click your heels three times while saying "Bob Pariseau". He will give you a dissertation on all the faults the player has. The guy is a machine.
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post #74 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:08pm
I would very much like to know from each owner the following.

1.) What processor/receiver (with HDMI 1.1 or greater) do you own?

2.) What difference do you notice using the analog outputs of the Oppo with hi res audio vs sending a PCM signal or bit-streaming to your processor/receiver.
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post #75 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:11pm
Originally Posted by da Choge
But, C'mon now !!! $499.00 is a totally justifiable and reasonable price, and it would just spell total doom and damnation for Oppo to even think about increasing it for the official release .


Totally justifiable IF it delivers.
Is Oppo going to allow returns for early adopters who are unhappy with it?
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post #76 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Speaker Distances are set like the previous players as pairs and the Surround and Rear Surround speakers can't be set further from the listening position than the Front speakers.

Can the side and rear surrounds be set closer than the fronts?
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post #77 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by vancouver View Post

2.) What difference do you notice using the analog outputs of the Oppo with hi res audio vs sending a PCM signal or bit-streaming to your processor/receiver.

I enjoy the sound of MP3s and love matrixing CDs to 5.1 using DTS Neo 6 Music, so I will abstain from answering your inquiry.
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post #78 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Can the side and rear surrounds be set closer than the fronts?

You can set any of the speakers closer than the mains. You just can't set the other speakers further than the mains.
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post #79 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:16pm
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Originally Posted by da Choge View Post

Jim -

You disagree that $499.00 would be a fair official release price or do you disagree that early-adopters have to pay $499.00 (which possibly could become $599.00 @ official release; at least according to previous posts)? I know what you're saying, but to be involved with a product development like the BDP-83, even on a secondary/tertiary level, would be totally worth it to me. But, sadly, Oppo did not invite me to participate; if they did, I would have jumped at the chance without any regrets. In any case, I trust that you realize my post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

-- da Choge (john)

PS. And I don't think that many, if any, early adopter selectees are bugged about their status.

That really wasn't that clear after rereading it.

What I intended to say is that I think its very reasonable to give these testers a price break for their help and that the price of the player once released would be more.
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post #80 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by James W. Johnson View Post

Is Oppo going to allow returns for early adopters who are unhappy with it?

From the Terms and Conditions:
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For the period beginning at the purchase date and ending 30 days after the BDP-83 official release date, the customer can return the player for a full refund of the purchase price and sales tax (if any). The initial shipping and handling cost is non-refundable.
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post #81 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:22pm
So is the official price of BDP-83 going to be $499, or is that just a discount price for early adopters? Or is this information still not known?
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post #82 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:22pm
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Originally Posted by vancouver View Post

I would very much like to know from each owner the following.

1.) What processor/receiver (with HDMI 1.1 or greater) do you own?

2.) What difference do you notice using the analog outputs of the Oppo with hi res audio vs sending a PCM signal or bit-streaming to your processor/receiver.

I'll try to work that into the list of EAP participants, so people can compare issues against type of gear used.
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post #83 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:26pm
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Originally Posted by Sudhakar2k View Post

So is the official price of BDP-83 going to be $499, or is that just a discount price for early adopters? Or is this information still not known?

I will quote myself, since there will be some confusion about the pricing:

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

The $499 to $599 price range is still in effect for the Official product.

It could still be released at $499, or it could be released at a higher price (up to $599). Right now OPPO is only talking about the Early Adoption Program, so we will have to wait for final pricing to be announced at a later date.
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post #84 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:27pm
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Originally Posted by rrollens View Post

I am one of the Fortunate 50. Over the years, I have received some very good information and advise, as well as respectful answers to many of my questions on this Forum. I have what probably would be described as a mid-level knowledge of all things home theatre, and have a mid-level system as well (Samsung 67" 750 LED DLP TV which replaced a Pioneer Elite Pro 730 RPCRT TV, a new Pioneer Elite receiver, a Toshiba XA2 HDDVD player, a Oppo 983H, and a number of Blu Ray players including the Pioneer 51FD, Panasonic BD-35, and LG BH-200. I use Monoprice cables.

I would be happy to now give back to this Forum by testing out or trying out the various features and goodies the BDP-83. I expect to receive my player soon since I live in Northern California, a couple hundred miles from Mountain View.

If you like, please post what you would like me to test out on the BDP-83 and/or observe, and Ill report my findings back to this Forum.

curious about upconversion,is it the same or better than the xa2
also are there audio drop outs when bit streaming new audio formats?something to ck out when you get it,thanx
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post #85 of 38737
2/25/09 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by GRUNT3 View Post

curious about upconversion,is it the same or better than the xa2
also are there audio drop outs when bit streaming new audio formats?something to ck out when you get it,thanx

Here a answer against the previous DV-983H versus XA2 from Bill Mullin. The BDP-83 replaces the DV-983H.
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post #86 of 38737
2/26/09 at 1:02am
I'm in the nifty fifty group, woohoo!
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post #87 of 38737
2/26/09 at 1:28am
Simple question, and hopefully also a simple answer:
Will there be an option to delay the Audio for lipsync with a LCD-TV ?
(e.g by 0 - 200 msec)
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post #88 of 38737
2/26/09 at 3:07am
Congrats to the lucky few!

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post #89 of 38737
2/26/09 at 3:11am
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

GOOD GRIEF!!!
I picked the wrong two days not to check my emails as I had to sift through HUNDREDS of posts in the other OPPO thread .

Congratulations to any and all EAP participants! You are going to LOVE this player. It is underpriced IMO.


I just ordered as i am one of the nifty fifty and am honored!!!! The price is amazing for this machine and OPPO said it will not go up for the actual release.This is a great deal as no other can have features and price as OPPO out priced every one .I will let every one know how good this player sounds and the video. I am like a kid with a new toy!!!!!!!!!!!
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post #90 of 38737
2/26/09 at 3:30am
congrats to those that were invited. I 'm anxiously awaiting reports and praying Oppo doesn't increase the price for retail.
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