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Originally Posted by dogone View Post

One of my favorite features about this oppo unit is that when you pause the blu-ray movie, it doesn't go to a screen saver...it just stays where you paused it...I have even switched inputs on my receiver with it paused and it doesn't lose it!...I switched to directv and watched a one hour program and then went back and finished the blu-ray movie, and it was right where I left it...No screen saver, no loss of signal...Love it!...

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Originally Posted by jeffstra View Post

No screen saver is a good thing?

No screen saver is a great thing. I love this feature. One of my pet peeves about the Pio 51FD.
post #6152 of 38733
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

You're aware that a CD has a limited bit rate compared to USB? If your photos are large files, it will take some time for the player to load them. Even at 1920x1080, an image could show a slight lag when loading from CD.


Agreed, but some of the .jpg files never displayed at all and other files took 30-60 secs before they showed up on the TV. That would seem like an inordinate amount of time to compile and display the picture data and probably more indicative of some conflict within the device. Tonight I'll try transferring all the pics to a memory key and try the same picture files through the usb port.
post #6153 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bborzell View Post

I think it would be great if all aspects of my life were as stable and reliable as my 2nd round EAP BDP-83.

Too boring.
post #6154 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

I still can't get HD DVDs to play on my BDP-83. I will be voting NO until this is fixed.

It works. You just have to connect the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on drive to the USB port on the back.
post #6155 of 38733
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Originally Posted by xradman View Post

It works. You just have to connect the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on drive to the USB port on the back.

You forgot to sacrifice a virgin around midnight to enable that feature
post #6156 of 38733
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Originally Posted by xradman View Post

It works. You just have to connect the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on drive to the USB port on the back.

How are your 1080i50 Blu-rays working? Do you see a quality difference when switching between 50 and 60hz conversion?

-Bill
post #6157 of 38733
A question that I'm not sure anybody can answer:

When Oppo releases this player, are they going to ship it with the DVD-A logo silkscreen in place? If they are, then the player is not ready for general public release, with the current firmware. Ditto HDCD.

I'm pretty sure/positive it will be different, but therein lies the rub.

Makes it difficult for me to vote one way or the other.

On the one hand, the 83 has performed very well for me on the advertised features. BR has been flawless (I do not have 24fps capabilities), SD DVD upconversion is great. SACD is better than my Denon (at least in 2 channel mode. Multi-channel is not as clear cut). I have not experienced the disc "vibration" problems, but I have not sat next to the machine to check - to be fair, I have never done that with any other player). If it were ever noticible from my primary listening position, it would be a big concern - that has not happened. 2 channel CD, while not SOTA, has exceeded my expectations (dedicated 2 channel analog outs).

Is it fair to wait for the almost certain to come firmware upgrade to come out before voting, or not?

Does anybody have any REAL info on when/if that is going to come out, or if it will even happen before the general release to the general public?


post #6158 of 38733
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Originally Posted by John Schneider View Post

A question that I'm not sure anybody can answer:

When Oppo releases this player, are they going to ship it with the DVD-A logo silkscreen in place? :

I read that it will not be released with the logo, but that doesnt mean DVD audio isnt part of the official spec and shouldnt work perfectly for launch.
post #6159 of 38733
[quote=Joe Cole;16186745]After using my replacement BDP-83 for the last 4 days I've decide to go ahead and vote, more 'testing' most likely will not change my vote.


Strictly because of the DVD-A issues I reluctantly am voting no on the question is it ready for general release. I cannot see why any one would vote yes because of the current firmware issues but hey that's just me.

Since I am 100% positive OPPO will correct these issues, most likely fairly soon, I will be keeping the unit baring any strange turn of events.

QUOTE]

Since the 83 is not good enough for you - how about returning it for a refund, maybe Oppo will send it on to someone else to evaluate - like me for instance.
post #6160 of 38733
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Originally Posted by xradman View Post

It works. You just have to connect the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on drive to the USB port on the back.

Wait a second! is this true? I don't actually have to have an xbox to be able to use this?
I can just plug it into the oppo blu-ray player?
post #6161 of 38733
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Originally Posted by John Schneider View Post

...When Oppo releases this player, are they going to ship it with the DVD-A logo silkscreen in place?....

I think it was stated earlier that there wouldn't be a logo in place for the release, if ever. Is that really something that you would vote 'no' for? What about those users that don't like any logos on the front panel?
post #6162 of 38733
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Originally Posted by xradman View Post

It works. You just have to connect the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on drive to the USB port on the back.

Does this actually work??!! Would you mind to elaborate? Any details? Thanks!

I have a couple of spare 360 HD-DVD drives around so it would be awesome!

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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

Smarty-pants, for your information, the Oppo BDP-83 is not a true Universal DVD/HD DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD-Audio/SACD/HDCD/CD player, just yet.

You might want to check in the manual...

Again, any details? Thanks!

I have quite a few HD-DVDs around. It would be nice if I can retire my Toshiba player and free up one HDMI port with a Blu-ray + HD-DVD Oppo universal player. It will better then the Denon flagship, in terms of format compatibility, as a 5" disc based formats digital transport.
post #6163 of 38733
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Originally Posted by QuadESL63 View Post

Does this actually work??!! Would you mind to elaborate? Any details?

I have a couple of spare 360 HD-DVD drives around so it would be awesome!

See the smilie? It's a joke.

-Bill
post #6164 of 38733
No guys. The XBox HD-DVD is not a "Bulk Storage Class USB Device".

Note the smiley after xradman's post.
post #6165 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

Stevie,

Remember the purpose of EAP is to get the player ready for general release. If you presently own a blu-ray player how many problems have you encountered that make you wish you had not purchased it. If this process flushes out MOST of the bugs, then you should get in line to purchase one. I don't know of any other manufacturer who would expose their product to this kind of scrutiny prior to a general release.

I agree 100%! I own a Samsung BD-P1400 and I do not ever watch a DVD on it (I use my Toshiba HD-A35 for DVDs), and I never watch a BD that I don't regret having bought the 1400 - it's PQ is great, but it has so many quirks (like maximum 5-minute pause then you start completely over - up to 5-minutes depending upon the BD) that it makes viewing a movie a real PITA!
post #6166 of 38733
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

FedEx Home Delivery = Ground service shipped to a residential address
FedEx Ground = Ground service shipped to a business

Not sure why OPPO used FedEx Home Delivery... twice... when I had them ship it to my work address. Surely it must've cost more if it's anything like UPS. Plus talk about a clueless driver. Every other delivery place in the state is able to find our loading dock where all deliveries go just fine... I kept having to meet this guy at some other random door.

Anyhow, got my replacement BDP-83 last night. Noticed it had the L/R outputs already swapped, and the latest firmware. It was like 3am when I got home so I only played with one BD to make sure all was ok. My sick one is going back to OPPO today.

I'm certainly not voting "yes" until I at least get the DVD stuck in it back. That'll teach 'em!

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Originally Posted by Jack D View Post

So you guys who are voting "no" do you plan to return your Oppo for a refund? :-)

Already had to ship one back to them once already. I'll worry about "refund" only if things get REALLY bad.

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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I'm sick of people pressuring others to vote and put in my no vote for now.

+1. The EAP fell on bad timing with me, and I haven't been home hardly at all in the last month or so, which has limited the amount of testing I could put the player through. And even then, mine died. Even though I've gotten my replacement, I will not even be home again until next week.

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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I strongly encourage people not to rush into giving a yes vote as you're doing both OPPO and their customers a disservice if it results in the player being released before it's really ready. I'm not saying that nobody should vote yes, I'm just saying that such a vote should not be taken lightly.

+1

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Originally Posted by HDVikes View Post

Was I supposed to get the player, watch one movie and vote?

Some did basically just that. In fact, some talked about voting "yes" before they had even plugged it in.

It's also worth noting how many at this point have had to have their BDP-83 replaced by OPPO. I think I've counted at least three, maybe more. I'm one of them. A little disconcerting, given the small number out there.
post #6167 of 38733
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

See the smilie? It's a joke.

-Bill

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Originally Posted by NoiseGoth View Post

No guys. The XBox HD-DVD is not a "Bulk Storage Class USB Device".

Note the smiley after xradman's post.

Ok, I got it I was too excited when I read it I missed the joke

I understand the 360 HD-DVD drive is not a standard USB storage class... since people have make it works on PC w/ WinXP so when I read his comment I was really hoping Oppo might have put in some special firmware to recognize the drive and play the disc... oh well...

But what about this comment from 'Lordoftherings'?

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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

Smarty-pants, for your information, the Oppo BDP-83 is not a true Universal DVD/HD DVD/Blu-Ray/DVD-Audio/SACD/HDCD/CD player, just yet.

You might want to check in the manual...
post #6168 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

I think it was stated earlier that there wouldn't be a logo in place for the release, if ever. Is that really something that you would vote 'no' for? What about those users that don't like any logos on the front panel?

Well, to me at any rate, if you put the logo on the product or box, that means it should play it correctly. If the logo is not there, it is a bonus or unofficially supported feature.

I bought the Sammy Duo 5000 on the promise that all hi res BR audio would be supported and the logos were on the box, and never supported (DTS MA).

Left a very bitter taste in my mouth.

I think it's important distinction, Just my two cents.
post #6169 of 38733
Hi; Has anybody tried playing back Audiobook Format MP3-CDs, this is a must for me besides the BD and Std DVD playback functions. (Bad eyes for short distance)

thanks
Michael
post #6170 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Maestro J View Post

No screen saver is a great thing. I love this feature. One of my pet peeves about the Pio 51FD.

But it does have an optional screen saver, right? Some of us do have phosphor based displays. What does the saver look like? The one on the PS3 is OK, it just dims the picture to very dark. But I'd prefer something which went to total black.
post #6171 of 38733
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Originally Posted by QuadESL63 View Post

...But what about this comment from 'Lordoftherings'?

It was a JOKE! It was all happening on April Fools Day, and it just continued with comments. NO, it doesn't support HD-DVD.
post #6172 of 38733
Hey guys, what are a few SD dvds that are good for comparing upconversion performance between players?

I am doing my best to compare an Oppo and Pioneer 51FD blu-ray player
yes I did just get the Oppo for review yesterday but ive had it long enough to
know that this comparison is not going to be easy.


Also how can you view the current resolution output on the Oppo ?

I cannot find a 1080p , 1080/24p etc anywhere.
post #6173 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Injector View Post

But it does have an optional screen saver, right? Some of us do have phosphor based displays. What does the saver look like? The one on the PS3 is OK, it just dims the picture to very dark. But I'd prefer something which went to total black.

See the online manual.

Screen saver can be off, or a pattern, or drop video signal entirely. A lot of displays go into standby when the latter happens and you have to wake them up. Unless HDMI CEC can do this?

-Bill
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Originally Posted by seattlemike View Post

Hi; Has anybody tried playing back Audiobook Format MP3-CDs, this is a must for me besides the BD and Std DVD playback functions. (Bad eyes for short distance)

thanks
Michael

There is nothing wrong with mp3 files themselves on CD (and yes, I've tested audiobooks) but there is a current bug where files are sometimes sorted in the wrong order, which is of course less than optimal. Or just plain bad.

-Bill
post #6175 of 38733
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It's also worth noting how many at this point have had to have their BDP-83 replaced by OPPO. I think I've counted at least three, maybe more. I'm one of them. A little disconcerting, given the small number out there.

3 out of 350 = less than 1% ...and this is during and EAP where problems are supposed to surface. The player is not being sold to the general public yet, so statistics like this are meaningless at this point.
post #6176 of 38733
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Originally Posted by James W. Johnson View Post

Hey guys, what are a few SD dvds that are good for comparing upconversion performance between players?

I am doing my best to compare an Oppo and Pioneer 51FD blu-ray player
yes I did just get the Oppo for review yesterday but ive had it long enough to
know that this comparison is not going to be easy.


Also how can you view the current resolution output on the Oppo ?

I cannot find a 1080p , 1080/24p etc anywhere.

Doesn't the RESOLUTION button show this?

As for test DVDs, it's a big topic. Apart from calibration discs I use a variety of good and bad discs, NTSC and PAL, color & BW, 16:9, 4:3 and 4:3 letterboxed.

Obviously something you are familiar with is best.

For "good" discs I'll put on LOST or THE FIFTH ELEMENT Superbit.

-Bill
post #6177 of 38733
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

See the online manual.

Screen saver can be off, or a pattern, or drop video signal entirely. A lot of displays go into standby when the latter happens and you have to wake them up. Unless HDMI CEC can do this?

OK, I thought I had read that somewhere.

It would be wonderful if CEC could turn the display back on when unpausing. But being that CEC is mostly useless, I'm not hopeful. Can anyone test?
post #6178 of 38733
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Doesn't the RESOLUTION button show this?

The resolution button is for changing the resolution output.

Mine is set to auto.


As far as the test SD discs go , its gonna be hard. So far the Oppo and 51FD both perform very good, the only easy to see difference between these 2 players is the speed.
post #6179 of 38733
QUOTE]

Since the 83 is not good enough for you - how about returning it for a refund, maybe Oppo will send it on to someone else to evaluate - like me for instance. [/quote]

Heck No! won't even if the aggrement let me.

And would any one buy a new car who's AC didn't work even though they said it will after a new maintenence procedure is done sometime in the future?
post #6180 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Lordoftherings View Post

Hi Nathan,

From what we know so far, the Oppo BDP-83 does not output the Original HDCD audio encoding in it's original form. It does some type of upsampling or downsampling in it's digital circuits that corrupts it's intended bit for bit digital output signal. Oppo is not the only one doing that, some Pioneer Universal DVD players also are doing a similar thing. It is an inconvenience for people like me, with a very large collection of HDCD encoded discs.

Hopefully Oppo will be able to resolve this issue.

Regards,

_______ Bob

Oh yes, I think the Oppo should bistream HDCD streams in tact.

But I was looking for something in addition: The option to DECODE HDCD streams *and* output them as 20 or 24bit PCM.

My Onkyo 885, while a good sounding unit with digital input, doesn't decode HDCD -- but can easily handle 24bit PCM.
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