Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 273

So the Oppo BDP-83 doesn't support AVCHD at this time?

It does, as shown in the FAQ. It is not in the manual yet.

You cannot play m2ts files individually, but AVCHD structures containing them will play.

-Bill

Thanks Bill for the clarification.

If possible, I (and others I'm sure) would also like to know if the BDP-83 will:

* play CD's thru HDMI, from the beginning, without audio lag?

* play HDCD's thru HDMI to my receiver which doesn't decode HDCD with any benefit?

* Will it (now) play my DTS-CD's thru HDMI without glitches such as, speed-ups or slow-downs or audio gaps?

* Will it (now) play my SACD's thru HDMI without annoying audio gaps?

* If I use HDMI does it have an audio delay with BD or DVD?


- Thanks!

Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with audio format issues and the most recent firmware. You might keep an eye on the bugs reported/squashed updates in the first post.

-Bill

Looks like my b-day wish (April 30th) of buying one of these, outright, may come true!

Have you factored waiting lists / limited inventory into the equation yet?

This is the senario as I rememmber it.

You need to listen in audio format only first playing various tracks the go into the menu, select audio settings, select pcm, go back play some tracks, go back to menu, select dts, then select video, hit play and bam. Lock up.

Requires hard reset.

Will do some final testing tonight and tomorrow and then vote.

JBM

For all of the folks that asked about 1080p/24 - why use it, why have it, is it necessary, etc. I did some research and found the facts below. Please note also that almost all new displays coming out recently have 120Hz and more are showing up with 240Hz.

I think its FANTASTIC that the Oppo -83 has this feature included on the player for Blu-ray and SD DVD so those with a display that supports this can take advantage of it now - or those thinking of getting a new display in the near future will be able to use this. As of right now the only other player that offers this is the Panasonic 35, 55, 60, 80.
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Having a display that accepts 1080p/24 signals and having a display that refreshes the image on the screen at multiplies of the original frame rate will eliminate the 3:2 pulldown judder and offers smoother camera pans. The image also has a more film quality look compared to a 60HZ video look that consumers have been viewing for decades.
Bypassing 3:2 pulldown 60HZ is the primary purpose of 1080P/24 signals. 1080P at 60HZ still looks good. True 24fps refresh rates just gives the image a more of a film look with no 3:2 pulldown judder during camera pans.
More and more displays are converting 24FPS material to refresh rates of 72, 96, 120, and 240 for maximum display quality. Flashing each frame 3, 4, 5, or 6 times improves screen imagery that matches the quality of the original film. For example, if the set has 120-Hz native operating frequency it will repeat each frame in a 24-Hz source five times to reach 120 Hz.
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If you want to know if a your display supports 1080p/24 signals, check out this link on Blu-ray.com http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5155

Is it too late for them to include a SD card reader like the Pannys and Sonys? That way you could pop the card out of your hd camcorder and play the avchd video from the card. Will there be another model past the 83?
JR

No really, they promised to add an SD card reader on the next firmware update

I assumed it already had one! That would be a very good feature add before release.

Simply pop your SD card into a USB dongle, works fine.

Why would you want to include a SD card reader on the -83 when you can just plug in a USB card reader for any size card. I view jpeg pics from my compact flash cards and play mp3 on my SD micro cards through a USB card reader. Don't know if -83 supports avchd format - that you would have to look up but I just played an AVI file I put on a SD card and it played perfectly.

That laser has too much grain, should use some DNR.

Thought I'd pop in and see what's going on for you crazy kids with your players, nice to see the new FW address DVD-A almost completely - I saw that the Brick discs are now working, and saw that Love is still pausing, but what about the Queen NATO disc, still pausing between tracks?

Anyhoo, back to unpacking...

Great idea.....this is now my desktop too!


I think I'll try this.....I need some BAM (Bummin' Around Money) too!


On a more serious note: Has anyone used the volume control via the analog outputs with their BDP-83 and noticed that it's too loud? This is the main reason I bought a new AVR. Just the setting on 5 was too loud at times. With all the other OPPO models I own, I'm used to using volume control at least half way turned up.

Older OPPO models Volume Control Feature: 1-20 Increment (Steps)

BDP-83: 5-100

System: BDP83 > Yamaha RXV863 > Panasonic PT-AE3000U

With the first EAPII firmware, I experienced large and variable lip-sync issues while watching SD DVD movies at 1080p/24. I remember it getting worse toward the end of the movie. Others had reported that stopping and starting the movie caused the sound to re-sync with the video. Last night I watched The Bourne Identity in this mode from start to finish without stopping. Lip-sync was perfect at the start and finish. At one point in the middle, it looked like it could be a little off. But I wasn't sure. At no time did it become noticeable. In fact I had to keep reminding myself to look and evaluate because nothing was wrong.

At this point I think the SD DVD lip-sync issue at 1080p/24 is solved. I will be using that mode from now on unless any problems surface.

If release is "several weeks" away as per Neuromancer, can we at least expect some sort of announcement on Monday (assuming the 70% EAP supermajority is achieved, which looks quite likely) from Oppo on the release plans/schedule?

Oppo laid out the EAP roadmap. I would hope they are prepared to tell us where we go from here.

Halson, regarding the "great results" you had playing a CD on the Oppo 83, could you provide a little more information about the settings and outputs involved? For example, are you talking about audio from the analog outs or via HDMI, and if the latter, was it bitstream or PCM, or something else? Or was it from the dedicated analog stereo outs?

Thanks,
Jim Cate

There is something wrong with this picture. On a scale of 5-100, 5 should be barely audible. I will retest the volume control to be sure.

I think it's fair to say they will have some kind of announcement soon
regarding the results of the EAP.

I can see the following posted on their website; (just speculating here)

"We will notify all those people who showed interest in the EAP program
and give them an opportunity to purchase this unit first".

Current Stats:
Total Votes: 350
Pending Votes: 128 (36.6 %)
Yes Votes: 186 (53.1 %)
No Votes: 36 (10.3 %)

Approval is at 83.8 % currently with votes taken.

Voting ends Sunday April 26th.

After firmware update on the 22nd I powered off/on, reset to factory, powered off/on and tested and still got lip-sync errors with 1080p/24 SD DVD conversion on.... Last nite we had a power outage for about half an hour and for some strange reason when I tested today all is working fine.... (Dam gremlins, guess you have to starve them of power to get rid of them)

Jim,

I am using the MC analog outs. I am planning on testing the 2ch outs this weekend. I never tried a CD on the Panny BD55, I always used my 5 disk Pioneer CD Player (very old), but after all the talk here I had to try it on the 83 and wow what a difference.

I don't think that was the first time I have seen one mention a full power off (ie. power at the plug), seemed to have fixed a problem. So maybe a 'soft' power off doesn't always work? I guess it could have been just purely coincidence.

This continues to be posted on OPPO's Web site - I hope I can continue to take the company at its word.

"Customers who signed up on the OPPO BDP-83 interest list early will be given a higher priority to purchase a unit."

Actually, it was Nov. 10 when the BDP-83 Interest sign-up list went up (see this post); that being the day I signed up. And by all accounts this will be the list used for priority

Back to hardware... any EAPers with a Panasonic PT-AE3000U projector care to comment on implementation with the BD-83? Any quirks or general gotchas?

For the record I signed up early for the 83 and have never owned an OPPO product. I am looking forward to owning one so I can see for myself what all the fuss is about this company. Outside of reviews of previous units and people telling me in this thread how great OPPO is, I don't have any first hand experience. If they skip over early EAP people and/or Canadian EAP people, my opinion will no doubt be less than great.

I have previously played DVD-A Hotel California several times without any issue. I played it today with the 0417 firmware and it no longer plays track 3, Life In the Fast Lane following track 2. The track counter changes to 3, the still picture changes, the time counter advances, the Mbps freezes at 1.8 and no sound. I'm using 5.1 analog output.

Pressing pause, then play and all is well. If I "skip" to it, it plays fine.

I unpluged the BDP-83 and the problem persists.

It also did this once progressing from track 7 to 8, but I can not reproduce that.

Anyone else experience something similar?

I will try some other DVD-As...

Marc

+1. There is something definately wrong. 5 is barely audible on my BDP-83 also. Did you check the master volume on your AVR. Also, even with the BDP-83 at 5 I can still control the volume through my AVR, but I'm limited to how loud it will go.