Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 274

Its based on approval ratio on votes received by April 26th, even if not all votes are received. As of this moment that is at 84.6%.

122 pending

You will see lots of professional interviews when the player comes out, all boasting how great the player is. There are already some views and reports of impressions of the player from people in other countries.

Many posts have been made on the AVS forums begging OPPO to release the player in other countries. Countless hits on OPPO's websight, and an outrageous amount of sign_ups to their email alert program.

Every year there is one consumer electronics product that atracts almost everyone. As far as media players, this year it is the BDP-83.

I, too, just found this problem but it was a little different. When track 2 ended, track 3 picture changed, starting counting as if it was playing track 3 but no sound. I waited about a minute and pressed the backward button and got it to play. No issues found with any other songs on this disc. I only played it once. No freezing issues. A little quirkiness with the fast forward, next track buttons.


No, what I'm saying is that it was before I acquired an AVR and went directly straight into an amplifier using the volume control on the BDP-83.

When using an AVR or integrated amp, you should use the volume control at full throttle on the BDP-83.

Only 50 more votes needed before Sunday based on supermajority requirements.

Neuromancer

Track 7 Eagles "Hell Freezes Over" OPPO jumps all over the start of the audio.

I find that the OPPO will have a tendancy to jump all over the audio track at the beginning of a disk. It happens when you have listened to SACD then switch to DVD A and happens the most when you switch to a HCCD disk. It like the OPPO is in a hurry to start playing the audio and everything else isn't ready to join along. It happens far less then it used to.

I listened to 5 DVD A and 4 SACD, and 4 HDCD s. During that session the "signal pile on" occured 4 times.

Once on track 7 as noted
3 times at the start of a disk being played.

One HDCD it had a real hard time playing at the beginning was Mannheim Steamroller's Christmas Extraodinaire. Maybe becuase it was out of season.

All in all I am really starting to like this unit.
Its 95% there and so am I.

JBM

I'm in the EAP2 and gave the BDP 83 a yes vote today - this is my first post....I may be a little off topic here, but I couldn't figure out any other place to post where I'd find BDP 83 owners ...I have a question for anyone in the EAP that might have the new Jeff Beck live Blu-ray disc - I finally had a chance to watch it this evening and was shocked at how lousy the picture quality was - so bad , in fact, I'm wondering whether I have a "bad" disc.
Every other Blu-ray I've played over the last month or so has looked amazing. After playing part of the JB disc, I put on several regular concert DVDs, and they all looked at least as good overall, and mostly better, which makes no sense to me, even with the excellent up-conversion in the Oppo. I realize some discs won't look as good as others ( I've actually produced a couple of music DVDs, so I know all the variables that can occur) but the motion blur and lack of clarity in the JB blu-ray is disconcerting , to say the least. I've read nothing but great reviews about this title, and so I wanted to hear from anyone here that has the disc and could report on their thoughts about the quality. I thought about seeing if I could make some screen shots, but it's almost impossible for me to find a non-blurry frame to pause on.... My regular DVDs on the other hand, are nice and sharp in comparison - At one point I thought maybe a DVD was packaged by accident in the Blu-ray box...no such luck
Anyway, I consider myself a relatively knowledgeable person when it comes to video, but this just seems weird to me..I'd like to know if it's just me, or does anyone else see the "lack" of quality I'm seeing?
By the way, using the Oppo with HDMI direct into a Sony XBR6, if that helps..

Thanks,
Lloyd

The Jeff Beck disc: I haven't seen it, but the reviews are "fair" to "good":

• http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...27&show=review
• http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/36682...ronnie-scotts/
• http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Je...ray_Disc.shtml

It's 1080i, but I presume your other concert discs were as well, so I don't know why this would look drastically worse than the others.

Are you using Source Direct? That will give a 1080i60 signal on this disc. You might try cycling through the other resolutions to see if it makes a difference.

-Bill

The PQ of the BD is excellent.

larry

I have the Jeff Beck 'Live at Ronnie Scott's' disc and love it. The PQ and AQ are wonderful. I can just sit back and get lost in the performance. CNATH may have a bad disc.

Most Blu-Rays you play will be movies -- on disc as 1080p/24. Live concert discs like the Jeff Beck, however, are on disc as 1080i/60.

Presuming you have a modern, digital display, that means this 1080i/60 has to be de-interlaced at some point before the pixels light up on your display.

If you are using Source Direct output from the Oppo, that de-interlacing will be done by your display. So check how you have the display set to do such stuff. In particular, make sure you do NOT have the display set to Movie/Cinema style de-interlacing all the time. There should be an Auto setting in your display that will tell it to automatically switch between film-mode and video-mode de-interlacing as necessary. That's what you want.

In addition, there are some notorious displays out there which do a particularly awful job of de-interlacing 1080i. What they do is 1080i -> 540p -> 1080p, which has the effect of discarding half the vertical resolution. I do not know if your Sony display has this problem but I suspect not.

Even if the display doesn't have this particular problem, and even if you have it set correctly, it may just not do a particularly good job of de-interlacing 1080i. That's actually a fairly common problem even in expensive TVs. The result won't be as bad as with the problem described above but it is still not "right".

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Alternatively, you can have the Oppo do the de-interlacing. To get this you will need to select 1080p (or 720p) output from the Oppo. For your display, I presume 1080p over HDMI cabling would be the right choice.

The Oppo ALSO has a setting which controls how it does de-interlacing. That's in Setup > Video Setup > HDMI Options > De-interlacing Mode. That should be set to Auto.

The Oppo does an excellent job of de-interlacing 1080i content for HDMI output, so this is definitely the preferred choice unless you are very confident in the HD de-interlacing solution in your TV.

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Also, make sure that Setup > Video Setup > Primary Output is set to HDMI.

ETA: You mention "motion blur". If your TV is an LCD with a motion smoothing feature, check your setting on that for this input as well. Again this is something that may only screw up (if set incorrectly) when you are feeding 1080i video-based content to the display.
--Bob

I installed the latest firmware visa a USB thumb drive yesterday. Took all of 2 minutes to complete the process and this release resolved the one issue I had with some multichannel DTS CD’s freezing/skipping using HDMI via Bitstream. This release appears to have most of the EAP user issues resolved and with the voting ending tomorrow a formal release in mid May (if not sooner) seems assured.

OPPO chose a very unusual and risky method to test the BDP-83’s market readiness by allowing the 350 Early Adoption Program users to experiment with, and openly comment on pre production units. This huge AVS thread has provided the main venue for general comments, identification of bugs and related discussion. IMO, the product has benefited greatly from this experience and OPPO is to be commended for blazing a new trail for CE manufacturer in working with consumers to help bring product to market.

The BDP-83 is and has been for the last two months, my go to all in one player and it is definitely ready for release.

Thanks RMK!, I think you stated that quite nicely...

I look forward to the release of this player, it will be my first venture into BR and I am patiently waiting.

Hey guys, I'v been following this thread for months! I know that the BDP-83 isn't region free for DVD/SD content which is a shame because I have lots of Japanese Superbits and other DVD's from that Country. Should I Just go and Buy the DV-983H, or wait for the Hack for region free for the BDP-83? if there is one ever!

I don't think we are encouraged to discuss mods in this thread but FWIW: I think there are already some modders advertising a region free 83--along with other mods that are meant to improve the sound quality. Of course they won't be available until the general release of the 83, they will cost a lot more than the standard OPPO, and you will forego OPPO's warranty.

Finding some extra time this morning I've stared retesting the CD and DVD-A capabilities of the BDP-83. The CD play back is not right. All CDs play at a faster rate with the voices sounding more like Alvan than the person or persons singing. I've tried both bitstream and LPCM through HDMI and also optical out. I have not tried the analog outs because I am not really interested in those.

I will be calling OPPO but does anyone here have any ideas as to what could be causing faster than norma play back for CDs? Oh, I have updated to the newest firmware.

DVD-A seems to be fine now. I am playing The Beatles Love DVDA and the problems I had with it before the new firmware are gone. The CD from the same set plays fast like all my other CDs. I am using HDMI outs set to bitstream

All CDs played throught the OPPO play great through my Sony SACD player [multi channel 777].

The BDP-83 I am 'testing' is the second unit I received to replace the original one that barely worked at all.

BD play back and sound still A+. CD play back receives an F. DVD-A receives an A as best I can tell. Woops, the Beatles DVDA just froze between tracks 20 and 21.

This unit in my opinon is still not an universal player.

Thanks! Do you know where I can still buy the DV-983H?

No, it IS a universal Blu-ray player. It just apparantly still needs more firmware revisions to refine it's functions to be more compatable with various setups.
It is amazing that you claim ALL cds have the speed_up problem.
How many cds have you tested??
Have you tried reflashing the latest firmware?

(the LOVE DVDA is a known issue and OPPO is working on it)

We are getting OT but OPPO says that the BDP-83 will replace it so I suppose you have to search around to see if any place still has a new one or go to ebay/audiogon.

I see Larry has been using his eraser again Sorry I was part of the problem

With the 0417 firmware, there are no longer any breaks between the tracks. It a "live" DVD and now the tracks flow together. Another fix. Thanks, OPPO.

Marc

I watched "The Dark Knight" last night on Blu-ray. The picture was phenominal along with the sound. This is with a Panasonic Plasma in 1080i mode. I don't know how the picture could look any better with 1080p. I'm not in any hurry to replace my set with a 1080p model.

Also, I listened to the first two albums of the Talking Heads "Brick" collection. "Talking Heads 77" & "More Songs About Buildings & Food". I noticed a problem while playing both. Worse on "More Buildings". Still some quirks like freezing between tracks, etc. The same with The Eagles "Hotel California". Although, in only one spot. I will test the rest of the Talking Heads DVD-As later today. Plus, more DVD-Audio discs.

All Quirkiness aside. I'm still keeping my vote to "YES" because track forward or reverse will remedy the problem.

This is pretty well documented in this thread. It generally requires a power-off cycle to make the player stop doing that once it has started.

What firmware revision are you using? If that's 0417, did you follow the instructions for flashing and doing a re-set of defaults? Did you power cycle the player after re-entering all your settings?

Still a lot of votes to go.

Total Votes: 350
Pending Votes: 116 (33.1 %)
Yes Votes: 197 (56.3 %)
No Votes: 37 (10.6 %)

Approval is at 84.2 % currently with votes taken.

I'd be curious to know if you've tried playing the disc on another player and if so, what the results were?

Pardon me if this question is OT, since DVD-A compatibility is now a reality, will the label of "DVD Video/Audio" (as depicted below) be printed on the general release models of BD-83?



If so, it will differentiate players released to beta-testers and EAP participants from those of general release.

There is no answer to that question yet. DVDA is still a work in progress, and not an official feature of the player. If the player were to be released today, no label. Who knows what could happen between now and release though.
Personally, I care about the functionality of the player... stickers be damned.

Simple question...can you not program the order in which a cd plays?

Sure you can. Turn on the player, hit eject to open the try, close the tray and push play. When the CD is finished playing all tracks, the 83 will stop.

That was helpful . I believe the question was can you program the order the tracks are played in instead of just playing them sequentially - basically a custom playlist for a CD. I believe the answer is no.

The answer is no. The BDP-83 provides repeat functions and random playback (shuffle) functions, but does not provide user specified, re-ordered playback (playlist) functions for CDs. Of course you can also jump to any track directly using the number keys on the remote or the Go To function.
--Bob