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Originally Posted by HogPilot View Post

That's exceptional news.

I called to Oppo just to clarify what they said in the above e-mail to Thunderduck. The gentleman with whom I spoke said that some of those who signed up for the EAP and expressed interest in purchasing the player had a high possibility of being offered a BDP-83 prior to the 18 May general public release. He said there's no concrete timeline for that, but to look for words on this prior to 18 May.

I have a lot of BDs and SACDs piling up with nothing to listen to them on! Bad on me for dumping my PS3 so soon I suppose, but I'm very excited to add this player to my shelf.

I think offering the remaining people on the EAP list a little bit of a head start is a great way to ease hard feelings created during the EAP program.

All though not as good as getting selected for any the EAP rounds getting it early can still be considered something special. I would feel pretty good about that. I hope others who wanted to be in the EAP program but did not get the luck of the draw feel the same way.

I originally gave until the end of April as my deadline. However I have no other player in my mind at the moment and since its not my first blu ray player I can wait. So unless my financial situation changes I plan to purchase when ready. I will say this though if it came out last Dec/Jan it was no problem. If it came out in Mar/Apr it was manageable. However right now its a bit of a stretch. I am just affraid if things get delayed much longer I would have to opt out. All sorts of surprises in life everyday lately.

Right now I am thinking of what movie to watch first on my BDP-83. At the moment I am thinking of doing a James Bond Sweep. I have all the ones available on Blu Ray and for those that are not out yet I have the latest special sets on regular DVD. Might be a good way to test both the Blu Ray play back and upconversion capabilities.
post #8342 of 39277
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Originally Posted by MRinDenver View Post

Wait, isn't this new info, and a change from what we were told at the beginning of the 2nd EAP: "Customers who signed up on the OPPO BDP-83 interest list early will be given a higher priority to purchase a unit."

In the spirit of over-analyzing, my perception is that he said "some" in order to be careful and not speak as if they would have sufficient units to satisfy ALL of those who expressed interest in the EAP. The terms of the EAP didn't say that everyone who expressed interest would get a player prior to the public release date; it only says they'll be given higher priority. I'm sure Oppo will try to take care of as many EAP'ers as possible prior to May 18th, and will make sure that that any remaining EAP'ers are higher priority than those who place orders during or after the 18 May general release. They obviously have their heads in the right place, so let's just wait and see how this cookie crumbles.
post #8343 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

God you people are nitpicky as hell.

True, but extremely anxious to have our collections of Blu-ray and SACD discs to stop collecting dust.

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

2. People who signed up for the Blu-ray Interest list and showed an express interest in the Early Adoption Program.

So someone who signed up on the interest list the first day (Nov. 10) but didn't try to sneak into the EAP as Canada was excluded is ????

(unless of course active participation in both EAP threads here is also considered interest )

...and you're right; people sure can be nitpicky.

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Originally Posted by HogPilot View Post

They obviously have their heads in the right place, so let's just wait and see how this cookie crumbles.
post #8344 of 39277
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Originally Posted by longhaul747 View Post

I think offering the remaining people on the EAP list a little bit of a head start is a great way to ease hard feelings created during the EAP program.

All though not as good as getting selected for any the EAP rounds getting it early can still be considered something special. I would feel pretty good about that. I hope others who wanted to be in the EAP program but did not get the luck of the draw feel the same way.

I originally gave until the end of April as my deadline. However I have no other player in my mind at the moment and since its not my first blu ray player I can wait. So unless my financial situation changes I plan to purchase when ready. I will say this though if it came out last Dec/Jan it was no problem. If it came out in Mar/Apr it was manageable. However right now its a bit of a stretch. I am just affraid if things get delayed much longer I would have to opt out. All sorts of surprises in life everyday lately.

Right now I am thinking of what movie to watch first on my BDP-83. At the moment I am thinking of doing a James Bond Sweep. I have all the ones available on Blu Ray and for those that are not out yet I have the latest special sets on regular DVD. Might be a good way to test both the Blu Ray play back and upconversion capabilities.

I would stick out, you waited this long.

You won't regret it. It's the best Blu-ray/Universal player I have ever
owned. With every firmware update, OPPO makes it better.
post #8345 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

God you people are nitpicky as hell. No wonder most companies try to keep information as low level as possible, otherwise every single statement would be over analyzed and distorted from its original intention.

+1,000,000... people need to get a frickin' life... not to mention all the griping and complaining about "voting".... and logos... and so on....

it's a disk spinner people... when you get it, you get it... it's not like it's food... no one is gonna expire if they have to wait a few more weeks... geez...

fwiw, i want one too... and i want one quite badly... but not so badly as to obsess constantly over when it's going to get here...

to be honest, if i was oppo, there'd be a few people that i'd ensure were last on the list, just to aggravate them...
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I think with the 'few' remaining weeks of this thread, people getting emails from Oppo as a response with release dates, should refrain from posting them. I think everyone is anxious and sees the light at the end of the tunnel now. By throwing out dates and comments about the release, unless official (coming from Neuro or Oppo's site), probably should be left off the thread. Even if one doesn't get in on the early orders (assuming it happens), what's bad about waiting a few weeks for general release.. you waited this long.
post #8347 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

God you people are nitpicky as hell.

Wow...
Neuro finally blew off a little steam...
I guess he is human, after all...
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Thread Starter 
I just had a fantastic weekend (mini-vacation), only to return to noisy children misbehaving. Of course I am going to be a bit tisy, especially since the nitpicking is being perpetrated from third party information (OPPO->Customer->Forum). There is plenty of room for personal interpretation and personal embellishment.
post #8349 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I just had a fantastic weekend mini-weekend, only to return to noisy children misbehaving. Of course I am going to be a bit tisy.

You guys better settle down, or Neuromancer will turn the car around RIGHT NOW! ...and there will be NO BDP-83 treats for anyone! Now everyone SIT DOWN and BEHAVE!

Neuromancer, tis good to hear you were able to enjoy a few days away.
post #8350 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

You guys better settle down, or Neuromancer will turn the car around RIGHT NOW! ...and there will be NO BDP-83 treats for anyone! Now everyone SIT DOWN and BEHAVE!

Neuromancer, tis good to hear you were able to enjoy a few days away.

Where's the incentive for those of us who already have a BDP-83 to behave? Or will he make sure we get no further firmware updates too (I'll never be able to listen to my HDCD's again - oh the humanity)?
post #8351 of 39277
I must have played 30 or so BR's, mostly from Blockbuster rentals. I never cleaned any of them like I used to do. All have played great. Has anyone had any trouble playing a BR or DVD disk?
post #8352 of 39277
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Originally Posted by halsan40 View Post

I must have played 30 or so BR's, mostly from Blockbuster rentals. I never cleaned any of them like I used to do. All have played great. Has anyone had any trouble playing a BR or DVD disk?

Yes they have. You have to sort through the thread but there has been a lot of discussion--especially about DVD playback--from some (maybe not the majority and definitely not all--at least I haven't noticed any problems) of EAPers in this thread.
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I just had a fantastic weekend (mini-vacation), only to return to noisy children misbehaving. Of course I am going to be a bit tisy, especially since the nitpicking is being perpetrated from third party information (OPPO->Customer->Forum). There is plenty of room for personal interpretation and personal embellishment.

Did you take that new portable OPPO BDP-83mini with you for your viewing pleasure while driving?
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Thread Starter 
Nope. I actually enjoyed the pleasure of good company this time around. Didn't bother bringing any form of electronics.
post #8355 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

You guys better settle down, or Neuromancer will turn the car around RIGHT NOW!

Are we there yet?
post #8356 of 39277
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post


it's a disk spinner people... when you get it, you get it... it's not like it's food... no one is gonna expire if they have to wait a few more weeks... geez...

to be honest, if i was oppo, there'd be a few people that i'd ensure were last on the list, just to aggravate them...

Couldn't agree more. This isn't a once in a lifetime item that will be sold in limited quantities. This isn't a collector item, nor an investment that is likely to appreciate in value. This isn't one of life's staples, nor will it cure cancer, end poverty and bring peace to mankind.

Let 'em fix all of the important bugs (just for the record, "important" to me) and I'll buy one in due course. Chill.

Roberta
post #8357 of 39277
I just spoke with a guy at Oppo customer service and he obviously told me the same thing as has been discussed here about release dates, etc. What he told me about the number of people who have submitted the "I'm interested" e-mail to Oppo was a little mind boggleing - 27,000-29,000 people. That is hard to imqagine, but that is what he said. Maybe he was pulling my leg, but not sure why he would do that (unless he wanted to see how fast it would show up on AVS).
post #8358 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post

For the most part, I feel for the few EAPers that have an AVR that the BDP-83 doesn't play nice with. I had one of those (Denon AVR-3808CI) and I returned it for a Pioneer SC-07. The player has worked flawless (ready to play nice) with the SC-07 for various reasons. If I were to have kept the Denon (G** forbid) I would have continued to vote "NO" too and don't blame the "NO" voters for doing so.

I have a differing view. I own a Denon 3808 combined with the 83 and the performance has been flawless for Blu-ray, dvds and basic cds. Its also worked great as a photoslide show device with pictures displayed off a usb memory key. All-in-all, I've been very pleased with the performance of the 83 combined with my 3808 and wouldn't even consider returning it.

I couldn't even suggest a modest reason for returning it. I certainly wouldn't have traded the 3808 for an Elite SC-07 as IMHO the Pioneer AVR products will be "orphaned" by year's end. And yes...I know they've only publicly claimed they are dropping the Video products business (which they publicly claimed they wouldn't do only a month or 2 before the announcement). Doesn't matter...Pioneer is begging for money and have even reached out desparately to Honda (last week) and the Japanese government for financial backing to stay in business.

I think you're much better off pairing your Oppo 83 with an AVR that can be updated over the internet by a company that will still be in business a year from now.
post #8359 of 39277
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Originally Posted by heatwave3 View Post

I have a differing view. I own a Denon 3808 combined with the 83 and the performance has been flawless for Blu-ray, dvds and basic cds. Its also worked great as a photoslide show device with pictures displayed off a usb memory key. All-in-all, I've been very pleased with the performance of the 83 combined with my 3808 and wouldn't even consider returning it.

I couldn't even suggest a modest reason for returning it.

+1

I have my -83 connected up through a 2807 and it works flawlessly. I have been thinking of upgrading the AVR to something better (to go along with the -83 and the new 141). I looked at the SC-07, then walked away when I found out it was a Class D amp... yuck! The 3808 is on the short list, along with going totally overboard & getting a Statement and some monoblocks I always try to buy on the back end of the product cycle, rather than pay the price premium.

The PCM output of the -83 is very nice. I A/B'd it with analog and it's very hard to tell a difference. The noise floor of analog is pretty high coming out of the -83, but it's slightly more spacial. I went back to PCM. I don't really "need" to see the decoding lights illuminate on the AVR, but I would like to A/B that, too.
post #8360 of 39277
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Originally Posted by tterral View Post

I just spoke with a guy at Oppo customer service and he obviously told me the same thing as has been discussed here about release dates, etc. What he told me about the number of people who have submitted the "I'm interested" e-mail to Oppo was a little mind boggleing - 27,000-29,000 people. That is hard to imqagine, but that is what he said. Maybe he was pulling my leg, but not sure why he would do that (unless he wanted to see how fast it would show up on AVS).

The BDP-83 will be the best and ONLY kind of product like it on the market, and for it's core functions, it does them VERY well, with MANY options and tweaks available. It has the BEST scaling+deinterlacing solution available in a stand alone player, backed by fantastic customer support and service.
WHY oh WHY is it so hard to imagine? Eveytime I mention these things, or numbers similar to the ones you mention, I can feel the readers eyes rolling and heads shaking. OPPO is in the "prime time" now. Get used to it!
post #8361 of 39277
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Originally Posted by heatwave3 View Post

I have a differing view. I own a Denon 3808 combined with the 83 and the performance has been flawless for Blu-ray, dvds and basic cds. Its also worked great as a photoslide show device with pictures displayed off a usb memory key. All-in-all, I've been very pleased with the performance of the 83 combined with my 3808 and wouldn't even consider returning it.

I couldn't even suggest a modest reason for returning it. I certainly wouldn't have traded the 3808 for an Elite SC-07 as IMHO the Pioneer AVR products will be "orphaned" by year's end. And yes...I know they've only publicly claimed they are dropping the Video products business (which they publicly claimed they wouldn't do only a month or 2 before the announcement). Doesn't matter...Pioneer is begging for money and have even reached out desparately to Honda (last week) and the Japanese government for financial backing to stay in business.

I think you're much better off pairing your Oppo 83 with an AVR that can be updated over the internet by a company that will still be in business a year from now.

When asked what were his issues, he wrote HDMI problems. Still not sure what the issues are.
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Originally Posted by heatwave3 View Post

I think you're much better off pairing your Oppo 83 with an AVR that can be updated over the internet by a company that will still be in business a year from now.

Under that logic all receivers without an ethernet connection are useless.

Cd
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Wow, those really are mind boggling numbers. I'm gonna have to wait a few months for mine aren't I? Oh well, it will be worth the wait. I have heard a lot about the DVD player the 983. Now that Oppo will be be releasing the BDP-83, will they be releasing a new generation of BD player every year or just upgrading and perfecting the BDP -83. Isn't that what they do with the DVD 983?
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I think its great what Oppo did with the EAP got the product right before putting out on the market unlike some higher profile companies. I hate buying something only to have it be garbage when I use it EA Sports games as of late come to mind. I'm stationed in Hawaii for the Army and didnt get a chance to participate in the EAP. But, what it did allow me to do is get the WAF (wife acceptance Factor) on a new subwoofer IXL 15.2.2 and a new Receiver Pioneer Elite SC-05. So IMO its a win win I'm going to get a great Blu-Ray player a new subwoofer and a new receiver. While some people are impatient relax be happy your getting a excellent product rather then garbage.
post #8365 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Scoob View Post

Wow, those really are mind boggling numbers. I'm gonna have to wait a few months for mine aren't I? Oh well, it will be worth the wait. I have heard a lot about the DVD player the 983. Now that Oppo will be be releasing the BDP-83, will they be releasing a new generation of BD player every year or just upgrading and perfecting the BDP -83. Isn't that what they do with the DVD 983?

No, the 983 was the first of it's kind as far as a "model" is concerned. They had 4 other players previous to the 983... the 970, 971, 981, and 980 models. While the 970 and 980 were similar, and likewise the 971 and 981, they were still all very different models. The only one still in production is the DV-980H. As far as SD-DVD features and playback ability, the BDP-83 is based on the DV-983H, but also will incorperate other features with the main one being Blu-ray playback.
Who knows what OPPO will have for the future. Only they do, and they keep pretty tight lips. So we shall see.
For now though, it's almost time to celebrate a coming of age moment in the history of Oppo Digital, Inc.
post #8366 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Cattledog View Post

Under that logic all receivers without an ethernet connection are useless.

Cd

uhhhhhhh....I believe I said Oppo 83 owner's would be "better off" with an AVR that has an internet connection for updates and is from a company that's likely to be in business a year from now. Never said anything about other alternatives being "useless".
post #8367 of 39277
You do understand that firmware updates can be done many ways not just via internet connnections. I have been doing firmware updates on various equipment since my USN days..long before the internet was known to the general public. I have done an update on my Mitsubishi 60735 using a usb drive.
post #8368 of 39277
Well, implementing a firmware update and actually receiving one in the first place from a viable company are 2 entirely different things.

That said, I don't think anyone should feel bad about having nabbed the 2008 Pioneer Elite series of receivers (unless they own any HD DVD players).
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This thread may be helpful. It hasn't been updated since 3/10 here but there are links to more recent updates.

Displays that support 1080p/24 signal at multiplies of the original frame rate

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** A updated list of 1080P displays that refresh 24fps at multiples of the original frame rate can be found at the following two websites **

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5155

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/home...rame-rate.html
post #8370 of 39277
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Originally Posted by heatwave3 View Post

I have a differing view. I own a Denon 3808 combined with the 83 and the performance has been flawless for Blu-ray, dvds and basic cds. Its also worked great as a photoslide show device with pictures displayed off a usb memory key. All-in-all, I've been very pleased with the performance of the 83 combined with my 3808 and wouldn't even consider returning it.

I couldn't even suggest a modest reason for returning it. I certainly wouldn't have traded the 3808 for an Elite SC-07 as IMHO the Pioneer AVR products will be "orphaned" by year's end. And yes...I know they've only publicly claimed they are dropping the Video products business (which they publicly claimed they wouldn't do only a month or 2 before the announcement). Doesn't matter...Pioneer is begging for money and have even reached out desparately to Honda (last week) and the Japanese government for financial backing to stay in business.

I think you're much better off pairing your Oppo 83 with an AVR that can be updated over the internet by a company that will still be in business a year from now.

This is your opinion just like I have mine. Plus, this isn't an AVR debate Thread so I'll be short.

For those interested in my mini review plus addtional comments on the Denon AVR-3808CI versus the Pioneer SC-07 AVR while using the OPPO BDP-83, click on the following links:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16350858

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post16352884

You shouldn't make a predition on a company you no little about. At this point, it's nothing but heresay. Whether the Pioneer Audio section goes out of business or not, I wouldn't trade my purchase of my Pioneer AVR for anything else in it's price range, just like I wouldn't trade my purchase for the OPPO BDP-83. Yes, it's that good!

Oh, the reason why Pioneer SC-07 has never needed a firmware update from day one is because they got it right the first time. Unlike...uhummm.....Denon.
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