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post #9601 of 39280
Ok, guys: The saga continues - I've tried playing both SACD's as well as DVD-A discs with the Oppo. When I first received my player on the second EAP both SACD multi as well as DVD-A's worked fine (The few I had). After the first firmware update via LAN the multi channel part of the SACD's would not work correctly. What do I mean by the? LF and RF speakers did not output sound. My D2 showed input for these as well as the other 5.1 channels. The rear surrounds and side speakers as well as the center worked perfectly, however with diminished clarity and space that the LF and RF would provide. However, when I switch to SACD stereo the front speakers work in stereo mode. I've rechecked all my setup selections in the Oppo acording to some input from Bob and company. All is as suggested, but still the issue. Now on to DVD-A all discs display the same issues as the SACD. Having a Toshiba HD-XA1, I put the DVD-A disc in and viola! 5.1 surrounf music and automatically. Assuming that perhaps the Oppo HDMI input on the D2 would be bad I switched between the Toshiba input and the Oppo (i.e. Toshiba to input 1 from 2 and the Oppo from 2 to 1). Guess what? the Oppo demonstrated the same issues as before on a different input. The Toshiba played the DVD-A correctly. Now, moving onto awaiting a firmware update, I updated today to see if perhaps a firmware (recent) update would work or fix the issue. Well.....Noooooooooooo. Same as before. Any ideas? I throw it out to all of you for comment and help. I figure one of two issues - Oppo bad or Bad HDMI cable from Oppo to D2.

WHAT SAY YOU?

Paul
post #9602 of 39280
Edit: Ah, fixed. I had an older version of the hardware.
post #9603 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Please post what FW revisions are installed on your player, all 3. Did you follow the instructions to reset defaults?

Revisions currently on the player:

BDP83-22-0430
BE23F3 857523F3
MCU83-19-0122


Yes, I did the factory resets.

Also just tried several more attempts at loading the MCU83-22-0410 but it's 'no go.' The screen does display that "A firmware file for MCU is found" accompanied with "Upgrade?" option but a few seconds later the "Failed to upgrade MCU Firmware" message appears!!!

-G
post #9604 of 39280
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stimby View Post

I'm having this same issue. I did re download the file, and tried to use a different USB Key again.

I also tried resetting all settings to defaults. This does not seem to fix the issue.

Try updating the MCU several times.

This is also highly doubtful, but older revisions of the hardware can't be updated for the MCU. This should only apply if you were a beta tester and did not replace your unit last year, are a reviewer or installer or other individual who has an older BDP-83 which lacks SACD DSD transportation.
post #9605 of 39280
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by G.M. View Post

The screen does display that "A firmware file for MCU is found" accompanied with "Upgrade?" option but a few seconds later the "Failed to upgrade MCU Firmware" message appears!!!

Is your fan spinning at all on the player when you attempt to update the MCU?

What is the ambient temperature of the area in which you are using the BDP-83?
post #9606 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Try updating the MCU several times.

This is also highly doubtful, but older revisions of the hardware can't be updated for the MCU. This should only apply if you were a beta tester and did not replace your unit last year, are a reviewer or installer or other individual who has an older BDP-83 which lacks SACD DSD transportation.

I thought the same thing. Anything is possible I guess.
post #9607 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Is your fan spinning at all on the player when you attempt to update the MCU?

What is the ambient temperature of the area in which you are using the BDP-83?

I don't hear any fan noise and the room temp is about 65 degrees F.

-G
post #9608 of 39280
Thread Starter 
Can you perform an Ethernet or USB install, rather than a CD install? If yes, then try updating the MCU portion of the firmware with the tray closed (no disc inside) rather than with the Tray Extended out of the player.
post #9609 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Can you perform an Ethernet or USB install, rather than a CD install? If yes, then try updating the MCU portion of the firmware with the tray closed (no disc inside) rather than with the Tray Extended out of the player.

No, I can't do either.

Since I'm lacking the technical knowledge of the FW upgrade I must ask:
is the MCU part essential?

-G
post #9610 of 39280
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by G.M. View Post

Since I'm lacking the technical knowledge of the FW upgrade I must ask:
is the MCU part essential?

It is essential for SACD DSD (the player will always convert to PCM if you do not have the latest MCU installed) and can cause some issues with the fan not working properly.
post #9611 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by G.M. View Post

No, I can't do either.

Since I'm lacking the technical knowledge of the FW upgrade I must ask:
is the MCU part essential?

-G

It runs the fan and some other hardware. You should contact OPPO support and ask them if it is ok. They might have more ideas about updating.

-Bill
post #9612 of 39280
Quote:


I wonder why, in a thread that has seen heavy action from the mods to keep things on topic, that posts of this type get nothing but congratulations.

Uhhh probably because it was funny to everyone who has a sense of humor?
post #9613 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

It is essential for SACD DSD (the player will always convert to PCM if you do not have the latest MCU installed) and can cause some issues with the fan not working properly.

O.K. and thanks for the info.

-G
post #9614 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It runs the fan and some other hardware. You should contact OPPO support and ask them if it is ok. They might have more ideas about updating.

-Bill

I think I'll try to upgrade a few more times tomorrow and then contact Oppo.

Thanks.

-G
post #9615 of 39280
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Most of those are without any appreciable benefit, except to void your warranty and to lighten your wallet.

I don't know... looks like a pretty substantial power supply upgrade to me (?)



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post #9616 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Gregor Samsa View Post

...There are those of us who frequent this site who believe that they can perceive sonic differences between electronic components and that some sound better than others....I, for one, am sick of reading this ****.

Relax Gregor, Steve is a good guy, a former subscriber to Stereophile, but not a believer of the silver or gold stranded wire upgrades for audiophiles. He was poking fun at you possibly, but most others probably find the same humor in what he was writing. You be the judge of what you want to hear, or the value of your upgrades. He was not attacking the AVS member, but was for the subject of the post he was responding to...a Forum decorum rule!
post #9617 of 39280
I know that this thread already has a low signal to noise ratio and the last thing it needs is everyone posting fed ex tracking/arrival results, but since I seem to first to note this, the status for my BDP-83 ordered on 4/29 has changed to "In Shipping".

I think a "Woohoo!" is in order.
post #9618 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Gregor Samsa View Post

I wonder why, in a thread that has seen heavy action from the mods to keep things on topic, that posts of this type get nothing but congratulations.

Those that have been around this forum for a while, know and appreciate my sarcasm for the sublime audio/video-snake-oil that is purveyed in the marketplace. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, that was not my intent. I suggest you try to take things slightly less serious and enjoy a little humor in life.

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There are those of us who frequent this site who believe that they can perceive sonic differences between electronic components and that some sound better than others. We may even occasionally give credence to an opinion expressed in Stereophile.

I agree completely with you on this point!

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For this alone, there are those who believe that this means we are lower than an AIG exec. who left after receiving his taxpayer-funded retention bonus. There have been countless other threads on this forum where our judgement, honesty, mental health, lineage and the sexual proclivities of our mothers have been called in to question. Apparently, this was not sufficient opportunity to do this, and now it shows up in this thread.

Um, please see previous advice about enjoying life. No one here, especially me, is casting personal attacks on you or anyone else.

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For the record, Stereophile has reviewed and recommended other Oppo products, all of them having more modest audio ambitions than the BDP-83. The similarly deluded/evil/probably syphilitic reviewers at the Absolute Sound have rendered similar opinions. So, Mr. stevec235, I will bet my paycheck against yours that Stereophile and their ilk will absolutely gush over a completely stock BDP-83. Care to put your money where your mouth is?

I have no doubts that both of these publications will provide an extremely positive review of the BDP-83. I read the reviews of prior Oppo products. They were quite favorable, flattering and tasteful.

And, I also have no doubts that either or both of these publications will also include, a few pages before or after that review, some other review/article and/or advertisement about how (for example) the latest cable holders can improve your spacial audio experience, by holding your overpriced "interconnect" off the floor, causing excessive capacitance to be bled from the signal chain.

As an audiophile, I find those things extremely insulting to me and to the audio marketplace in general. While I am very pleased to read reviews and articles about equipment, such as the BDP-83... or even the latest $50,000 turntable (that I wish I could find some spare cash to acquire) - my perspective is quite tainted by the myriad of b*llsh*t that is passed off as "advice", "improvements" and/or "audiophile tweaks".

Sorry if this ruffles your feathers. Get over it.

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I, for one, am sick of reading this ****.

Please feel free to put me, or any other member of this forum who annoys you, on IGNORE. But, I still suggest that try to see the humor - you'll feel better.

Larry/Mark - please feel free to vanquish this post at your discretion.
post #9619 of 39280
I just upgraded my firmware and I'm noticing two changes..

During SACD playback, the Title Track flashes twice when going in between songs. Anyone else?

Second, the BD tray is slower.

On a different note, when my tray returns into the unit, it returns at a constant velocity until its 3/4 of the way in and then it "slows" before going in all the way. Is this normal?
post #9620 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by drebnord View Post

I know that this thread already has a low signal to noise ratio and the last thing it needs is everyone posting fed ex tracking/arrival results, but since I seem to first to note this, the status for my BDP-83 ordered on 4/29 has changed to "In Shipping".

I think a "Woohoo!" is in order.

And I just picked mine up at Oppo's headquarters in Mountain View. Right next to Twisters Rock Climbing gym too ... They must have a good time working there!

Casey
post #9621 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by caeguy View Post

I just upgraded my firmware and I'm noticing two changes..

During SACD playback, the Title Track flashes twice when going in between songs. Anyone else?

Second, the BD tray is slower.

On a different note, when my tray returns into the unit, it returns at a constant velocity until its 3/4 of the way in and then it "slows" before going in all the way. Is this normal?

Yes, it is normal. OPPO has implemented that function to keep the tray noise more quiet.
post #9622 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by drebnord View Post

I know that this thread already has a low signal to noise ratio and the last thing it needs is everyone posting fed ex tracking/arrival results, but since I seem to first to note this, the status for my BDP-83 ordered on 4/29 has changed to "In Shipping".

I think a "Woohoo!" is in order.

Same here as I received the FedEX tracking number notification which is also reflected on OPPO's web site's Order Status page.

My only reason for posting is that I called OPPO back on Friday, May 1, after first placing my order that previous Wednesday to request an RS232 port modification. They told me 1-2 weeks delay on top of normal processing. So, those who requested the RS232 modification might expect their units to be shipped out considerably quicker.

Am I friggin' impressed, or what?!
post #9623 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Operon View Post

Am I friggin' impressed, or what?!

If you're impressed now, wait till you actually use the player.
post #9624 of 39280
At the risk of ruffling feathers, let me make an observation, or two.

I do not call adding a transformer to the front end of any existing power supply, a power supply upgrade. From the pictures, that appears to be what this is. The mains input, that previously was connected to the back panel AC connector - is now connected to a transformer, that was inserted between it and the back panel AC connector. The existing power supply circuit appears to be intact.

Note in the original design, the two red wires, running from the back panel to the power board. Compare them to the wires in the modified design, running from the back panel to the added transformer.

The wires in the modified unit are significantly smaller (gauge) than the original wiring. You can see where they used similar gauge wire, connecting the red wires, to the other side of the added transformer. Yet, why they chose to use smaller wiring for the input side, makes NO sense. Just a bad design choice.

I also feel the routing of these wires was poorly done. Without trying to reverse engineer this PCB, I wonder if they are laying these AC wires across the DC circuitry, or filtration/control for the DC circuitry? They could hare routed them around the PCB, rather than spewing them across.

So, for this "mod" you are poorly installing (in my professional opinion) a torroid transformer in front of the BDP-83's existing power supply... wow! How much does that cost?

And.... what?!?!?!? No fuse upgrade?!?!?!

You guys wonder why I am cynical? This is pure BS.


Quote:
Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

I don't know... looks like a pretty substantial power supply upgrade to me (?)



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post #9625 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Operon View Post

Same here as I received the FedEX tracking number notification which is also reflected on OPPO's web site's Order Status page.

My only reason for posting is that I called OPPO back on Friday, May 1, after first placing my order that previous Wednesday to request an RS232 port modification. They told me 1-2 weeks delay on top of normal processing. So, those who requested the RS232 modification might expect their units to be shipped out considerably quicker.

Am I friggin' impressed, or what?!

So they charge the CC before they actually ship the item.
post #9626 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by barryecohen View Post

I don't know... looks like a pretty substantial power supply upgrade to me (?)

barryecohen:

Is that a picture of the stock 83 supply?

I'm impressed!

Can't wait to have it modded.
post #9627 of 39280
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

At the risk of ruffling feathers, let me make an observation, or two.

you should ruffle away... a little common sense never hurt people... maybe some of them will actually listen...

nice post...
post #9628 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by bori View Post

So they charge the CC before they actually ship the item.

Paid with AmEx which dings the account at the point of transaction. NM has expounded on billing procedures ad nauseam. Read his posts for further clarification. Can't tell you much beyond this.
post #9629 of 39280
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bearchan View Post

Is that a picture of the stock 83 supply?

The large yellow block is. The extra transformer at the front is not.
post #9630 of 39280
Is the oppo bd83 a better DVD upscaler than the toshiba xa2?
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