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post #211 of 3177
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Your gonna love it man, the kids and I watched Ratatoullie (sp?) last night in 720p and it looked great.

Hey Whiteboy,
Have you watched any hockey games on your new x1? Just curios on the PQ (brightness of the ice since these are a little dimmer than other plasmas due to the 100w drop).I realize the store setting is not a fair comparison to the home. I just want to make sure that I make the right choice before I spend a grand. Thanks, Lucky.
post #212 of 3177
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

I don't know why Panasonic always disables overscan adjustment for their 720p sets. If you have an xbox 360, blu-ray, or htpc you won't be able to get 0%. Some computer video cards allow you to adjust for underscan but even with this you are still scaling twice just to get the picture back to full screen. I know you can do this with Samsungs on 1080i/p sources.

You are incorrect in assuming this limitation. The Panny commercial sets have this option.
post #213 of 3177
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Originally Posted by lucky logan View Post

Hey Whiteboy,
Have you watched any hockey games on your new x1? Just curios on the PQ (brightness of the ice since these are a little dimmer than other plasmas due to the 100w drop).I realize the store setting is not a fair comparison to the home. I just want to make sure that I make the right choice before I spend a grand. Thanks, Lucky.

I'll have to check tomorow if someone else cant before me.
post #214 of 3177
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Originally Posted by TopShelf17 View Post

You are incorrect in assuming this limitation. The Panny commercial sets have this option.

Great.. but they don't sell these in any stores and make up a small percentage of their total production. If they can do it on the commercial models they certainly can do it for all the other sets.
post #215 of 3177
Thread Starter 
UPDATE:

Listening to the "veterans" on this forum I knew what to look for and how to evaluate this set. For example, watching hockey the ice looked dirty. This set just wasn't as bright as last years, probably due to the fact that they were pushing less power through it AND on top of it the anti-glare was heavier than last year.

I ended up returning the TC-P50X1. I'm now trying to chase down either a cheap 50 inch 450 from last year, although I would rather have last years Panny. Anyway, thanks for the great advice guys!

As a test, by the way, the store I went to had last years Panny right under the X1. No comparison. Last years model BLOWS THIS ONE OUT OF THE WATER!
post #216 of 3177
Ok, not for nothing. Consider my enamoried with the 42x1... anyway I've played hockey for 20 years along with going to many pro games and watching them on TV... The ice is never not "dirty" looking unless its artifical like my 550 used to do on boosted settings. On top of that, each rink looks different on TV some have better lighting than others... using the custom setting, hockey looks fantastic. Your set just wasnt calibrated properly, thats my guess....
post #217 of 3177
lucky logan, funny you mention hockey and this set. I watched the Pens game last night on my P42X1 and the ice looked slightly gray so I bumped up the contrast a bit and it looked a lot better. Still haven't done a full-blown calibration so I admit I'm winging it at this point.
post #218 of 3177
I just watched a ranger/ islander game 2 nights ago and didnt notice "dirty"ice but when I watched the devil's game i did. Its particular to soem arenas and their lighting
post #219 of 3177
Bob, I highly reccomend using the "custom" settings I posted earlier on this thread. try them!
post #220 of 3177
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by outsidordinary View Post

I just watched a ranger/ islander game 2 nights ago and didnt notice "dirty"ice but when I watched the devil's game i did. Its particular to soem arenas and their lighting

To me it looks like they're using reclaimed water to make the ice for the rink. Yes, quite gross.
post #221 of 3177
I was debating sammy 50a450 vs. the panny 50x1. After reading this my debate is now shifted to sammy 50a450 vs. the panny 50px80
post #222 of 3177
maybe I had a bum ln40a550 because i loveeee this plasma set.. apparently a lot others dont....
post #223 of 3177
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Originally Posted by HammerRock View Post

I'm now trying to chase down either a cheap 50 inch 450 from last year, although I would rather have last years Panny.

Hammer,

If it's still around, why don't you just make them an offer for that Panny floor model? You won't have to go through the notorious break-in ordeal -- they've done it for you. Probably get a good deal too.
post #224 of 3177
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Originally Posted by HammerRock View Post

I ended up returning the TC-P50X1. I'm now trying to chase down either a cheap 50 inch 450 from last year, although I would rather have last years Panny. Anyway, thanks for the great advice guys!

newegg.com has what you want.

So far I like the 50X1. I'm going to play with some settings tonight since I put about 60 hours on it so far. She should be ready.
The stock settings seem a little dim but in custom mode with some things bumped up it looked fine.
post #225 of 3177
Head,

You might try rebooting (unplugging) the unit and select the "STORE" setup instead of the "HOME" setup.

To many, the STORE setup, with its "Torch Mode" capability, is derided as being "unnatural." But it goes deeper than that.

Manufacturers go to great lenghs to claim the "Energy Star" endorsement for their displays. If you examine the new (2008) specifications for Energy Star 3.0 compliance, it states that the maximum power consumption for a 50-inch HD television cannot exceed 318 watts when operating in "Home" or "Standard" mode, which must be the default mode for the set.

The flip side of this means that the display can have an optional mode ("STORE") where it exceeds the 318-watt limit if that mode's selection is explicitly separate from the default ("HOME") mode. So, the manufacturers can have their Energy Star cake and eat it too.

I'm sure there are some here who would cringe at the thought of running the units in STORE mode during "break-in." But the HOME mode also implies reduced settings versus the STORE mode -- which could be also thought of as a sort of "permanent" break-in mode.

Bottom line: If you want to try and get some more brightness oomph out of your display, try rebooting it into the STORE mode and see what you get. It might be a good idea to avoid gaming and 4:3 broadcasts while using it.
post #226 of 3177
HammerRock, crutchfield.com still has the 42" & 50" PX80 but they want $1,099.99 for the 50" model delivered. Not too bad if you really want a new one & it is from a first class outfit incase you had any problems. Also you might want to check Wal-Mart because my local one still has some of the 50" HD models left for $998.00 but it doesn't have the 3rd Front HDMI Input & the frame is Flat Black & the speaker section is Dark Gray.
post #227 of 3177
Thanks funny...I think some folks just wish they waited for the X1. I was at BB and played with the adjustments on the X1 and had them pretty close to the 850u, nevermind the 80u next to it. Hmmm...I don't get these opinions on here.
post #228 of 3177
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Originally Posted by lucky logan View Post

Hey Whiteboy,
Have you watched any hockey games on your new x1? Just curios on the PQ (brightness of the ice since these are a little dimmer than other plasmas due to the 100w drop).I realize the store setting is not a fair comparison to the home. I just want to make sure that I make the right choice before I spend a grand. Thanks, Lucky.

Lol I think you got your answer.

And I to disagree about some peoples complaints. It looked a little dim in the store but that can easily be changed with the settings.
post #229 of 3177
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Originally Posted by Johnherrera305 View Post

I was at BB and played with the adjustments on the X1 and had them pretty close to the 850u, nevermind the 80u next to it.

Since the first one you mentioned was most likely a PZ850U, was the second one a PZ80U or a PX80U?

(It does make a difference....)
post #230 of 3177
heres some pics with my first attempt at bias lighting... iphone pic sucks but its with mlb 2009 the show....
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post #231 of 3177
Wow, are those video game graphics? It looks like a real television broadcast.
post #232 of 3177
Yea the camera added a little orange tinge to the colors but its a pretty sweet loooking game!
post #233 of 3177
Bought a 50x1 based on three years no int. at BBuy. It comes in next week.

I am moving my 40XBR2 over to inlaws, taking their 32 LCD and putting in our bedroom.

Mainly watch network tv and sports via comcast HD. No blu-ray player... only movies we do are on demand.

Local sears also has 1080P Samsung plasma (5 series?) for $300 more... I'd spend that if I could somehow figure out it was a superior picture.

But alas, 15% restock fee at Sears.....

I really just want a great picture, and don't like dingy whites.. I don't have my XBR all jacked up... in fact it's much "dimmer" than the normal mode but it still has a white white.... not a gray white.

Help??
post #234 of 3177
People can complain all they want, but for a sub $1k 50" set you aren't going to do any better than this.
post #235 of 3177
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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

People can complain all they want, but for a sub $1k 50" set you aren't going to do any better than this.

Not sure where you can get it for that price, if so I might want to take back my 42"
post #236 of 3177
Check online, pricegrabber, ect.
post #237 of 3177
Got my 50" x1 for <$1k. I don't own a vehicle big enough to pick it up!

Praying for the kindness of neighbors with pickup trucks. Will get it tomorrow.
post #238 of 3177
Hey folks,

Just found this thread. I purchased my 50X1 two weeks ago at Ultimate Electronics. They were having a big sale and I got a new one for $879.00 at the store.

I have tweaked the settings along the lines of what folks have here, and I have to tell you the output is fantastic. I originally was going to put this in my game room for my Xbox 360 and PS3, but decided to put in my main room for movies and such.

I know you could get a better picture with spending some more money, but this is a great set! This is replacing my little dink 26" HD LCD, so it is like moving up to IMAX

If anyone needs info let me know. I dont have access to the sophisticated test equipment, but I'll try to answer questions.
post #239 of 3177
Hey all. I just bought a new 50'' X1 on Wednesday. Looks great so far. Of course, I'm coming from a 27'' Sony CRT. I' haven't played around with the settings much, but I think this set is fantastic for the price I paid (under a grand). One thing I've noticed though. I'm seeing a purple-ish horizontal line going from the bottom of the screen to the top. Has anyone else seen anything like this? I wonder if this has something to do with the plasma gases. I'm not worried as I bought a 4 year warranty. Anyone else experienced anything like this?
post #240 of 3177
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Originally Posted by dantheman33 View Post

Hey all. I just bought a new 50'' X1 on Wednesday. Looks great so far. Of course, I'm coming from a 27'' Sony CRT. I' haven't played around with the settings much, but I think this set is fantastic for the price I paid (under a grand). One thing I've noticed though. I'm seeing a purple-ish horizontal line going from the bottom of the screen to the top. Has anyone else seen anything like this? I wonder if this has something to do with the plasma gases. I'm not worried as I bought a 4 year warranty. Anyone else experienced anything like this?

That shouldn't be there, at least I dont have it, you should connect multiple sources to see if it stays there.

If so I myself would take it back and exchange.
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