Official Samsung BD-P1600 Owners/master thread - Page 60

Let me put it this way.....It works great so long as you keep the player at Firmware 1.03 or 1.04.


Remote works fine for me. It's pretty responsive. maybe your batteries are expired.

Did it with the supplied batteries and a set of new replacements. Oh well, I just over estimated Samsung. Either that or this 2.05 firmware is making it total junk.

Maybe the remote is bad. Try calling Samsung and ask them to send you a new remote...

it doesn't open, stuck....dead! then couple days later it will open. Then will not eject again. its like a crap shoot, some days u get lucky and some days you're stuck with this piece of crap.

Keep in mind that the people posting here with complaints about the player are a fraction of a percentage of people who own the 1600. Yeah, BD technology overall is flaky and inconsistent, but you'll have a tough time finding a player that plays all movies perfectly ("B-B-B-But the PS3!" comments in 3...2...1...).

I've said it before, but I'm on the latest firmware (2.05) and am quite happy with my 1600, especially given the performance and features for the price. It still has its glitches now and then, and I expect that to continue for the foreseeable future, but sadly that's the state of Blu-ray right now.

At this point if my 1600 dies outside of warranty I'd probably just go out an buy another one. I still don't feel like paying $300 or more for a BD player of any kind, and I'm so spoiled with having Netflix and Pandora available on my HT system that I couldn't live without them now.

I'm still not convinced that's the case. Even PS3s have problems with BDs now and then.

However, assuming that PS3s have better BD playback than any other device, I'm guessing it has something to do with the frequently-updated firmware, as you suggested.

Maybe they aren't lying. Two possibilities come to mind:

1) PS3 owners spend more time gaming than watching movies so they're just encountering fewer BD problems than those with standalone players.

2) The problems with the PS3 have been more isolated so maybe there are just fewer of them than with other players.

It was suggested before that the BD software developers are making sure
that their titles work on a small handful of players before they release the
movies, and that the PS3 is one of those.

If this is true, it would make sense that all movie titles would play on the
PS3, as it would be part of the QA for the movie.

I think the quality of any player, and whether or not a player will play a
particular BD title are two different things. The PS3 happens to be a good
BD player (or so I've heard) and plays most BD titles - but you pay for
this ($$).

That's all you can think of?

Is it possible that while some people have problems with the PS3, some have no problems?

After all, I've had no problems with my BD-P1600. Does that mean I'm not being truthful?

I just bougth the bdp-1660 as a gift for someone. Is it recommended that i return it ?

It's still unopened, so it would be easy to return.

What software version does these one have otb?

Created AVCHD movie and burned it on a DVD+RW
Could watch it without any problem

absolutely not! after using mine for a month (and ~loving it) i bought a second for my in-laws. i would suggest opening the box, hooking it up, and letting 'er rip. if you have any problems, you can easily return to the store (even if it's opened). i did this sort of test-run with the gift unit.

On sale at the local Fred Meyer. Worth it?

Most definitely

Well, I paid $250 for mine ... so Yes

Fred Meyer is having a hard time keeping them in stock. Picked the last one up at my local store yesterday. Get a raincheck at this price!

Got one of these yesterday as a gift. Connected to Sony E2000 series TV with HDMI and to 10 year old Onkyo 5.1 receiver with optical cable (this receiver has no HDMI ports).

Don't own any Blu-Ray discs so I set up the audio with a regular DVD. With digital output on the PCM setting, I got Dolby Pro Audio output. Changed to bitstream (re-encode) and the receiver showed DD 5.1. Played a little bit of the movie and everything seemed fine.

Rented a Blu-Ray movie last night. There was no sound on the bitstream re-encode setting. Switched to PCM and got sound in ProAudio mode. While the movie played there were many audio dropouts, generally about 1/2 second. I noticed that right after an audio dropout, my receiver display would change from ProAudio to DolbyDigital for just a second.

Has anyone had this problem? If so, what was the fix? (My firmware is 2.04 and I see that 2.05 is out but I am reluctant to try an upgrade based on problems others have had.)

Are there optimum audio settings for a Blu-Ray disc with optical connection to the receiver or must I just experiment until I get something that works?

Warning!!! I have several friends that have this player that told me they could not play certain DVDs (STD and Blu-Ray) on it. And I have even recommended the player to them and others. Be forewarned.

OMG!!!

please list the titles (STD DVD and bluray) that could not play. we'd appreciate it. this thread has identified a few titles that give problems but it seems that the vast majority of DVDs and blurays play fine.

thanks for the melodramatic warning though.

I had 3 freezes during Angels & Demons Blu-ray. I have firmware 2.05

If you are connecting to an older receiver (e.g., has no HDMI inputs) over an optical cable, it is recommended to use the Bitstream Re-encode setting. If you set the player to PCM out then the decoded audio will get downmixed when going over an optical cable. i.e. You most likely will not get multichannel audio in that scenario. And that's probably why your Pro-Logic processing is kicking in because it's receiving a PCM downmixed 2 channel audio signal.

If you had an HDMI receiver with on board HD audio decoding, you would have two options connected via HDMI.

1 - Set PCM out in the player, which would send decoded HD audio to receiver for playback. The receiver would display PCM Multichannel Audio

2 - Set Bitstream Audiophile out in the player, which would send encoded HD audio to the receiver for it to perform the decoding. The receiver would display either DTS HD MASTR or DolbyTrueHD. Or something similar depending on your make/model AVR.

I just came back from my friend's house. Haven't visited him in two years and he's owned a PS3 for a over a year already. I brought some movies for us to watch and was able to see how well the PS3 is compared to the Samsung 1600.

Well....as far as loading times, it's exactly the same as the Samsung BD-P1600. I didn't notice it loading any faster. Even certain movies like "Monsters vs. Aliens" which takes a long time to load on the 1600....well it also takes a very long time to load on the PS3. I've read on so many threads where people claim that their PS3s can load all their BDs in 10-15 seconds. False! It takes a lot more time than that, especially Java discs.

As far as picture is concerned, the 1600 wins. The PS3 doesn't deliver as sharp of a picture. It could be my friend's LCD, but he has a high-end Sony 52" Bravia 1080p TV and I checked all the settings. It was ok. I have a Samsung Series 500 40" LCD 1080p TV, which is supposedly not as good as the Sony's. So my guess would be that the PS3 isn't up to par in terms of picture quality as standalones.

As far as stability, I don't know. We only watched a couple of movies and they played fine on my friend's PS3. They also have played fine on my 1600 as well. I need to watch on the PS3 on a regular basis to determine how stable it really is. My friend claims it's flawless, but then again, he also told me the picture was so amazing, but IMO it's not as good as what's being shown on my display when I'm using the 1600.

I'm making this post just to give information to others about how the 1600 is compared to the PS3. Some may get mad at me for saying the picture is worse on the PS3, but I'm not saying I'm 100% sure about that. It could be the display, I honestly don't know as I never researched the Sony TV he has. But what I do know is that the PS3 and the 1600 are the same in terms of loading speed and responsiveness. And my friend has the fat PS3 which is supposed to be slightly more powerful and faster than the slim one.

Using that setting I got no audio from a Blu-Ray disc (a regular DVD worked fine with that setting). I fooled around more after I made the post. It appears that the Bitstream audiophile setting resulted in DD output and no audio dropouts. I only watched about 5 min of the disc so I won't know for sure until I watch the whole thing but the previous night, it never went more than 5 min w/o an audio dropout.

Perhaps I can use this as an excuse to get a new HT receiver with HDMI inputs

I own both and have them hooked to the same display and honestly don't see a difference in picture quality!

It seems there's a PS3 vs 1600 war brewing here lately. I love both my players

Then maybe it's my friend's display.

Yeah still too many problems for me to do that.


Well I normally read comments here, comments on a few review sites and look at the comments left on a few stores before I by but I just happened to see it on sale and I figured I would be ok since it was a Samsung.

If it was just problem with blurays then I would have kept it. Unfortunately there were other problems such as firmware problems, remote problems, and streaming problems. I also wasn't very impressed with the upconverting on DVDs that it did. I returned it and got a Sony BDP-N460. I am much happier with the upconversion on DVDs now. It doesn't have pandora which my sister would have loved but they could always add it in the future I guess. Slacker is pretty decent. It has comedy radio which pandora doesn't so it may be an acceptable substitute. We will see. I will give her a month with it and then ask how she likes it. I will let you guys know.

I think when you compare what you get with the 1600 and what you get from the Roku player I think even with the problems the 1600 is a bargin. I love having Pandora and Netflix and for a few more dollars I have the ability to play dvds and BDs.

Hello all,

Sister in law just gave me a 1600 after getting it for free. Pulled it out of the box and set it on the old dvd player to test. Old dvd player was hooked via hdmi to a denon 790. Basically all I did was pull the hdmi cable from the dvd player and plug it in to the 1600. No firmware updates. I put in a copy of Boondock Saints (BD) as a test and realized I had ONLY back ground sounds (music tracks, walking..etc). No actual vocal audio. Pulled the same movie out but dvd this time and got the same behavior. Pulled Dark Night out (BD) and same thing. As a test, I pulled the dvd player out of the room and hooked it up using the same hdmi 'end' and all sound was present. I've tried going through PCM\\Bit and no dice. The ONLY thing that gave me vocal audio was switching to stereo on the 1600 using the audio button. This THEN gave me all audio but added a track for the sight impaired. Has anyone seen this behavior before or maybe something along the same lines? I've looked through the thread as much as I could but couldn't find anything other than sound dropping out. Thanks in advance for any help...

I bought the BD-P1600 last Friday after reading the CNET review, but not the user reviews. When I got home I read the CNET user reviews and some of the AVS posts. Now I think maybe I should not even open the box and just swap for the Sony N460.

For anyone that has made the swap, exactly what am I loosing? I have Blockbuster and not Netflix, so I would lose Blockbuster stream capability. I assume you have to be a Netflix member to do the Netflix streaming. The Sony costs more, but with the Samsung the $30 for the 4 year service contract would be mandatory. Anything else?

I am coming from HD DVD where I just put the DVD in without worrying about what firmware revision I have. Are there inherent problems with all Blu ray DVD players or will the N460 actually play all DVD's (including+R/-R) without problems?

Does the player make any noise or is it silent during operation?

I read somewhere that the lg bd 370 is silent but I haven't found any info on the Samsung BD-P1600?

Thanks.