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post #1891 of 3602
Upgraded it first thing out of box. 2.05 I believe is the number
post #1892 of 3602
I bought this at BB a week ago mostly for the Netflix streaming. I have an older Sony non-HD TV (37") but I still thought the player would work. Well, it does, but there is an annoying faint 'whitish' bar that slowly creeps across the screen while watching either a Blue Ray or standard DVD (I am using the basic red, white, yellow cable since the TV has no other type of input except s-video). Has anyone else seen this?
post #1893 of 3602
I got this player. Updated the firmware right out the box. However now my remote won't work. I can't access the menu or anything. I have to use my TV remote to stop and play blu rays.

The remote will power on the player and eject discs. It also works for my TV's power, volume, source etc. So i think its an issue with the player itself. Just wondering if I am missing something obvious?
post #1894 of 3602
Well, it looks like my problem with pauses is my router. After a reset of the router it is working correctly now. Looks like time to replace it.
post #1895 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by Epikon View Post

I got this player. Updated the firmware right out the box. However now my remote won't work. I can't access the menu or anything. I have to use my TV remote to stop and play blu rays.

The remote will power on the player and eject discs. It also works for my TV's power, volume, source etc. So i think its an issue with the player itself. Just wondering if I am missing something obvious?

The user's manual suggested the following troubleshooting tip (assuming you've already checked the batteries):

Quote:


Remove batteries and hold down one or more buttons for several minutes to drain the microprocessor inside the remote control to reset it. Reinstall batteries and try to operate the remote control again.

Next, I would try resetting the player itself. To do this, make sure you remove any discs from the player then press and hold the fast forward button until it resets (approximately 5 seconds). This should reset it to factory defaults, so you may have to do any menu setup again.

Good luck.
post #1896 of 3602
In case anyone needs help getting through Samsung Tech Support:1-888-751-4086
This takes you right to the service center. Rick will help you out. Flat rate for parts and labor for an out of warranty unit.
post #1897 of 3602
Picked up the BDP-1600T today from FutureShop - Boxing week sale $139.99 (comes with Dark Knight). I bought this for a basic Bluray player - I'll leave video streaming to a WDTV or similar media device - my opinion is to just use the BDP as strictly a Bluray disc player. Plugged it in - stuck in the 'upgrade' disc that comes with it. Let it do its thing. Once done, plugged into network cable, check for system update, and let it do its thing again (now @ v2.05). Playback of BR seems to be working fine. Loading times are fine for me.

Then I tried a regular DVD. The upconversion on this player is garbage! Looks like I'll be keeping my Oppo V971H for regular DVD playback. For example, with the GI Joe disc, the sides of buildings are just terrible, tons of jagged edges. So IMHO, anyone thinking of using this player for upconversion DVD playback, avoid it!

Anyway, that's just my 2cents.

Cheers
post #1898 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by burn0gas View Post

Then I tried a regular DVD. The upconversion on this player is garbage! Looks like I'll be keeping my Oppo V971H for regular DVD playback. For example, with the GI Joe disc, the sides of buildings are just terrible, tons of jagged edges. So IMHO, anyone thinking of using this player for upconversion DVD playback, avoid it!

Anyway, that's just my 2cents.

Cheers

Perhaps it could be a problem with your player or that specific DVD, but I've played many, many DVDs in my BD-P1600 and they look fantastic. So I would counter your warning - IMHO
post #1899 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by burn0gas View Post

Picked up the BDP-1600T today from FutureShop - Boxing week sale $139.99 (comes with Dark Knight). I bought this for a basic Bluray player - I'll leave video streaming to a WDTV or similar media device - my opinion is to just use the BDP as strictly a Bluray disc player. Plugged it in - stuck in the 'upgrade' disc that comes with it. Let it do its thing. Once done, plugged into network cable, check for system update, and let it do its thing again (now @ v2.05). Playback of BR seems to be working fine. Loading times are fine for me.

Then I tried a regular DVD. The upconversion on this player is garbage! Looks like I'll be keeping my Oppo V971H for regular DVD playback. For example, with the GI Joe disc, the sides of buildings are just terrible, tons of jagged edges. So IMHO, anyone thinking of using this player for upconversion DVD playback, avoid it!

Anyway, that's just my 2cents.

Cheers

I've watched a few DVDs that looked like crap on the 1600 so I put my Yamaha DVD player back in the rack thinking the same thing. Its hard to A/B without the same DVD in each one and changing inputs. Otherwise I don't have faith in myself to think I can take the DVD out of one and put it in the other and remember truely which is better. That is my plan though, to rent or borrow a DVD that I have and compare the two.

So for now the jury is out but I have my doubts about its ability too.

But that being said I did just exchange mine today and the issues I was having with it not playing some DVDs when you first put it in and also Netflix issues seem to be gone now with the new one so I obviously did have a bad unit.

I still plan to do the head to head comparision between it and my DVD player.
post #1900 of 3602
I just noticed when I went on Netflix to delete my old 1600 they have different descriptions.

The old 1600:
Samsung BD-P1600/3600 Blu-ray Player

The new 1600:
Samsung BD-P1590/1600A Blu-ray Player

What do you think the difference between a 1600 and a 1600A is?
post #1901 of 3602
I'm watching it on a 120" screen with 720P projector (Infocus SP5000). I can very clearly see the difference between the upconversion on the Samsung and my Oppo. I just went to a few scenes and look at hard edges and curved lines and small details like hair. Totally obvious difference. That said, Oppo is one of the top players - so perhaps not a fair comparison, but dvd upconversion should be a commodity and child's play now-a-days for any player.

Perhaps the Sammy is bad at 720p upconversion.

Whatever it is, I won't be using the Sammy for DVD playback.

Cheers
post #1902 of 3602
The Oppo is kind of a ringer in that contest but I agree by now any DVD/BD player should do a great job of it.

I know the Samsung BD-P 2550 used an HQV video processing chip and the 1600 didn't. I was thinking about getting the 2550 but they were on the way out and the 1600 was coming in and after reading the CNET review of the 1600 it sounded like it was as good as the 2550. Looking back that whole CNET review seems a little suspect now.
post #1903 of 3602
I should clarify that I don't think the 2550 and the 1600 were equal, the 2550 is closer to the 3600. Just that for what was important to me the 1600 would do just fine. The CNET review made it sound like the PQ between the two is similar.
post #1904 of 3602
I haven't tried to upconvert a dvd yet so can't comment on this, but for what its worth, I was told at the store that the only difference between the 1600 & 3600 were the wireless and the storage. The guy seemed to know what he was talking about. He actually sold me on the 1600 cause I told him I didn't need the wireless and he said I could use any usb thumb drive for storage.
post #1905 of 3602
I guess I was right about the CNET review of Samsung BD players!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10402481-1.html
post #1906 of 3602
Reviews should always be suspect. Even user reviews can be biased. When you see an open forum for posting the people with bad experiences are more likely to post than those who like their product. Just like most comments you hear when dealing with the public are negative. If I went solely on reviews then I wouldn't have bought any Blu Ray Player other than the Oppo. Of course the reality is somewhat better than the user reviews and somewhat worse than professional reviews.
post #1907 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedZeppelin View Post

Today I had my first Netflix glitch since upgrading to 2.05. It's the same problem I had with older firmware where the display timer would stop but the movie would keep going, but if I stopped the movie and resumed it later it would pick up at the time at which the display timer froze. It did that a lot with the 1.xx versions but I hadn't experienced it with 2.xx until today.

I rebooted the player and went back into the same movie I was watching in Netflix and it worked fine.

RedZeppelin, (or others)
Any other problems with this? You posted it once and nothing since.
Did you go back to 2.04 or did the problem go away?

I got a new 1600 today and a couple of the issues I was having with the old one have been fixed with the new unit. Those issues were if I paused Netflix and it when back to the menu when I restarted it there would be sound but no picture. If I changed the input on my receiver a few times the picture would come back again. I wasn't sure if it was the receiver or the unit. The other issue I had was some DVDs wouldn't start playing when you put them in. You might see the studio that made the movie at the start of the disc but then it never went to the menu, the screen when blank, but on the screen it said menu. If you pressed play it would start to play but never could get to the menu. Just some DVDs, not all.

When I bought the new 1600 it didn't have any problems the old one had. I put in one of the DVDs that was tripping up the old one and it worked great. I put Netflix on pause and let it time out time and time again without issue when it restarted. I was thrilled!!!!

I always stayed at Ver 2.04 because of your post saying you were having the same problems as the 1.xx versions. The new one I got today and it had 2.05 and I wasn't having any of the old problems so I upgraded the old unit to 2.05 and it still had the same issues. I just assumed it was a bad unit and my problems were solved until tonight watching Netflix and the old counter/going back to an earlier time issue popped back up.

So I guess the point of this novel is if you're having the problems my old one was having its probably an issue with your 1600 and not a firmware fix. Maybe someone having one of those issues will search and find this rambling post and it will help them!

Now I'm trying to get the the counter issue to happen and it won't!!! I'll probably let it ride and if the counter issue happens again I'll go back to 2.04 since that is the one firmware I've never had any issue with.
post #1908 of 3602
Got the player a few days ago and so far, have to say performance has been pretty good. Haven't run into any of the issues brought up in the last 64 pages (i apparently have way to much free time!)
Although i don't have several other DVD players sitting around like most people here to compare up conversion, the p1600 seems to be quite good to me.
My only BIG complaint is that I'm in Canada, and apparently Samsung decided Canada would get the crappiest set of bonus features...We have Youtube only. I can understand why there's no netflix or pandora due to licensing issues but why couldn't they have compromised with something like DivX and movie playback from USB sticks as they have with many other countries?!?!?

So, for the Canucks in the crowd. Great player for BluRay & seems to have good up conversion but don't buy it for the "extra" features cause they aren't there.
post #1909 of 3602
Me and my friend got a samsung 1590 wich ive read is a similar machine. He seems to think that there is a memory problem with the netflix. That its saving a cookie on the machine and its filling the memory.

He said he has several tv series and it saves where he is in each episode of the series using memory not only for each que but also where you are in each movie or episode.

It might be good to keep this fairly cleared.
post #1910 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by BowerR64 View Post

Me and my friend got a samsung 1590 wich ive read is a similar machine. He seems to think that there is a memory problem with the netflix. That its saving a cookie on the machine and its filling the memory.

He said he has several tv series and it saves where he is in each episode of the series using memory not only for each que but also where you are in each movie or episode.

It might be good to keep this fairly cleared.

I can't say I know for sure how Netflix saves your spot but I don't think it saves anything on the 1600. The reason I say that is I've watched things on my computer at work (it gets slow sometimes!) and stop in the middle of something and finish it at home on my 1600 and Netflix picks up right where I left off on the computer.
post #1911 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackstar79 View Post

Got the player a few days ago and so far, have to say performance has been pretty good. Haven't run into any of the issues brought up in the last 64 pages (i apparently have way to much free time!)
Although i don't have several other DVD players sitting around like most people here to compare up conversion, the p1600 seems to be quite good to me.
My only BIG complaint is that I'm in Canada, and apparently Samsung decided Canada would get the crappiest set of bonus features...We have Youtube only. I can understand why there's no netflix or pandora due to licensing issues but why couldn't they have compromised with something like DivX and movie playback from USB sticks as they have with many other countries?!?!?

So, for the Canucks in the crowd. Great player for BluRay & seems to have good up conversion but don't buy it for the "extra" features cause they aren't there.

Can't you just download the US version of the firmware and update via USB and then have all the stuff the US 1600s have?
post #1912 of 3602
hey all,
just gave my in-laws the 1600 for Xmas and set up netflix. they only have DSL (not sure of the exact upload/download speed) and no hard-lined ethernet cables in the TV room so we used the wireless dongle on the player. netflix worked like a charm with no glitches. we paused and rewound a bit and the movie (the international) looked great (aren't i a great son-in-law?). i think we were getting ~80% on the wireless signal bar indicator.

cheers and good luck to everyone else.
post #1913 of 3602
hey all,
i have this player hooked up to a samsung 60inch lcd via component cables (digital audio direct to receiver). generally, it looks great and netflix is rocking, but i noticed a peculiar problem. during "the assassination of jesse james" (i loved this movie but most probably won't) there are several scene transitions where the screen fades to black, remains black for a couple seconds, then fades back in. during the black time, the screen seemed to blink on/off a few times before the fade in. any ideas if this is player or tv related?

SOLVED: i thinnk is an "auto-dimming" feature of the samsung LNxx650 TV
post #1914 of 3602
I’ve just encountered a very unusual problem. I just got the “Monsters vs. Aliens” Blu-ray Disc and it worked great. However, if you play the movie all the way until the end credits and the credits finish rolling, the disc is supposed to return to the disc menu. But it doesn’t. It locks up. Basically, the credits roll, then when it ends and fades out….that’s it. The player locks up and you have to power off and power on to get it to function again.

I’m thinking it’s either a firmware bug or an authoring error on the disc. This time, I’m cutting Samsung some slack and I’m going to suspect it’s an authoring error on the disc because I’ve played over 50 BDs on this player and this is the first one that locked up when the movie ends. Most people don’t watch all the way to the very end when the credits finish rolling, so I may be the only one to ever notice this little bug. But it’s not a serious problem since the entire movie plays fine along with the extras.
post #1915 of 3602
I'm having an intermittent HDMI handshake problem between my 1600 and 3600 devices and my VSX-01TXH Pioneer Elite AVR (I believe!!). Both BDPs work fine when attached directly to my Epson 6500UB projector, but when I run them through the BD or HDMI inputs on the AVR they do not always sync. OK, sounds like an AVR issue, so why the post here...

When these BDPs boot they initially throw up a "blue sky-like" splash screen. My AVR and projector HDMI sync to this (looks like 480something) image, but then the BDP switches to a higher res output. At this point, its a 50/50 chance I'll get a "video format not supported" objection from my projector or a nice clean Block Buster, NetFlix, etc. "button select" image. I'm guessing that this switch between display resolutions is what confuses my VSX.

Are there any ways to suppress this splash screen?

I'm currently running mostly factory defaults with: CEC off, bitstream (audiophile) on. Any BDP setting changes I should consider?

Any thoughts or other troubleshooting ideas would be greatly appreciated.
post #1916 of 3602
I received it for Christmas. I haven't had any issues with it yet, but am getting mighty frightened reading about some of the issues other people have had. I have only watched one blu-ray (The Hangover) and didn't have any issues with that. My modem is in the basement though so in order to use the Netflix feature I need to purchase the dongle. At $70-80, I figure I better make sure I'm going to use the Netflix feature a lot. Then I hear that:

1. there aren't very many movies available
2. The picture quality isn't even HD. If I'm going to buy a blu-ray player, I'm going to make sure I'm watching every movie in the highest quality possible, even if that means I have to leave my house to go pick it up.

I'm trying to decide what to do. This unit was purchased for $149.99. I'll spend up to $230 (I figure if I would have bought the dongle, I'd be in for that amount so I will get the best player I can for that $$). I have a 46" Toshiba Regza LCD, so I'm looking hard at the Toshiba unit. I have a good # of dvd's so watching those in the highest quality possible is important. My receiver is a Harmon Kardon AVR 140 (no HDMI...running HDMI from the blu ray to the TV, and optical from the blu ray to the AVR). The Netflix feature would be nice as long as the quality is good.

Can anyone provide any reccomendations?
post #1917 of 3602
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Originally Posted by hallandoates View Post

...Can anyone provide any reccomendations?

Netflix streaming is one of the reasons I love the 1600. I couldn't live without it at this point. But I'm on a wired connection. I've heard mixed results using wireless. Couldn't hurt to give it a shot though.

And no, most of the the content isn't HD-quality, but it's certainly DVD-quality or better, which is more than good enough for me.

As for the quantity of movies available, I have 30 movies in my instant queue at the moment, so obviously I'm finding more films I want to see than I have time to watch. But YMMV, of course.
post #1918 of 3602
Remember, you need to subscribe to NetFlix in order to downstream, but if the quality of the downstream bothers you, don't. Once you sign up with NetFlix, you can always get NetFlix to send you a BluRay disc version of most any movie out there. That's what I do. Occasionally, I downstream as well. They DO have some HD movies available for downstreaming and as long as you have a fast connection, it isn't that bad depending on the quality of the movie to begin with. At least the BP1600 gives you a choice.
post #1919 of 3602
I got this player for Christmas and have a problem.

Whenever I burn a .mkv to disc and pause the film for more than a couple of minutes it automatically stops the film and when I go to play it again it won't resume the film and I have to wait and fast forward to the point I was at.

Is there any way to change the amount of time it will let you pause for or how to get it to resume?

Thanks.
post #1920 of 3602
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedZeppelin View Post

Netflix streaming is one of the reasons I love the 1600. I couldn't live without it at this point. But I'm on a wired connection. I've heard mixed results using wireless. Couldn't hurt to give it a shot though.

And no, most of the the content isn't HD-quality, but it's certainly DVD-quality or better, which is more than good enough for me.

As for the quantity of movies available, I have 30 movies in my instant queue at the moment, so obviously I'm finding more films I want to see than I have time to watch. But YMMV, of course.

Thanks for the input. It sounds like a lot of the complaints about the quantity of movies available were from quite some time ago. Since the 3600 seems to be a better player and also comes with the dongle (or doesn't need it, I can't tell), it would be silly still for me not to take back my 1600 and get the 3600 as opposed to keeping the 1600 and spending another $80 on the dongle and being out the same amount of money.

I'm just now struggling with the decision between the 3600 and the Panasonic BD60K or Toshiba BDX 2000.
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