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post #271 of 3593
A refurbished P2550 can be had for around $220 shipped from E-Outlet Canada... they were around $180 shipped a few months back before the deal was posted here (by me, sorry). They come in and out of stock and the best method of getting one is to get on their waiting list (not charged until available). Shipping takes 1-2 weeks to arrive in the US. Sounds like a lot of caveats, but it really is a great player... Netflix, Pandora, on-board lossless decoding, 7.1 analog outputs, and (most importantly, for me at least) Reon HQV video processing for DVD and SD NetFlix content.
post #272 of 3593
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins View Post

A refurbished P2550 can be had for around $220 shipped from E-Outlet Canada... they were around $180 shipped a few months back before the deal was posted here (by me, sorry). They come in and out of stock and the best method of getting one is to get on their waiting list (not charged until available). Shipping takes 1-2 weeks to arrive in the US. Sounds like a lot of caveats, but it really is a great player... Netflix, Pandora, on-board lossless decoding, 7.1 analog outputs, and (most importantly, for me at least) Reon HQV video processing for DVD and SD NetFlix content.

When you read the cnet.com reviews of the 1600 and the 2550 it sounds like the 2550 has better PQ but its very close.

Anyone done a side by side comparison to see how much better the Reon HQV chip is?

The 1600 has faster load times than the 2550 per cnet.com so one area of improvement over the older units.
post #273 of 3593
I doubt most of the CNet reviews happen on large screens (i.e. front projection) which is where the Reon scaling makes the largest difference. I don't think you'll see much, if any, PQ difference on BD... but SD DVD and Netflix will likely be a different story on large screens.
post #274 of 3593
Sorry, not 4 bluray players.. just 4 Samsung products in general. It was telling me a newer software version is available would you like to update so I did. I took it back and the new one works fine.
post #275 of 3593
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Originally Posted by Aginc View Post

Sorry, not 4 bluray players.. just 4 Samsung products in general. It was telling me a newer software version is available would you like to update so I did. I took it back a the new one works fine.

What?
post #276 of 3593
I am torn on film mode 24fps or not. On my Infocus x10 on 100" screen the best I can describe it is that it changes panning flicker from 1 inch to 1/4" but gives more of a strobe effect. I think I like 24fps more but curious what others think.
post #277 of 3593
Can the player only read from 1 USB flash drive at a time? I have 1 flash drive I've been using for BD Live plugged in the rear USB port. I plug another flash drive in the front port and the player recognizes it immediately, but I can't see it in the GUI. I'm only able to browse BD Live files on the flash drive plugged into the rear port. I just wanted to be able to play files from the front port and never have to remove the rear USB drive cause it'd be a PITA.
post #278 of 3593
Not that there's really anything worth viewing on BD-Live but I haven't been able to get any Disney BD-Live connection to work with my 1600. I called Disney and they're clueless - said it was probably a Samsung firmware issue. I tried a Dreamworks release and the BD-Live works with no problem so I'm not sure who's at fault here. I did some searching and there was a similar problem with the 1500 last year - not sure if that was ever resolved and,if so, was it a Disney or Samsung fix.

Edit - just tried a Sony BD rental from Netflix last night and the BD-Live worked so this has to be a Disney thing.
post #279 of 3593
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins View Post

I doubt most of the CNet reviews happen on large screens (i.e. front projection) which is where the Reon scaling makes the largest difference. I don't think you'll see much, if any, PQ difference on BD... but SD DVD and Netflix will likely be a different story on large screens.

I only have a Sony 52W4100 52" LCD. I sit about 10 feet from the TV so is it fair to say I probably won't gain much PQ wise watching DVDs or Netflix if I have something with Reon or not?
post #280 of 3593
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Originally Posted by Winner26 View Post

Trying to decide between the BD-P1600, 3600 or the Panasonic BD60.

I will be buying a Panasonic plasma 50" in the near future.

Most important considerations for me:

1) Upscaling quality
2) The ability to play high def (ie. MPEG-4) video from a USB stick or SD card (I download a lot of stuff)
3) wifi would be nice but not required as I could always use a nridge or a power line adaptor.

I obviously don't want to spend tons of money so I'm leaning towards the 1600 but am not sure if it'll play my video content, which is pretty much a deal breaker for me. Any advice?

Well, I had that same decision to make about a month ago and because of Cnet indicating shorter disc loading times I went for Samsung.

Everything was fine until I used the Bonusview feature on a Matrix BD. When activated it was fine, the small video window appeared with commentaries; but when I rewinded some seconds back, playback became jumpy, so much that even turning the feature off kept the movie jumping.

Tried this with other BDs and same thing and this gave me a bad feeling. It's a brand new player with a good review, I did the firmware updates with the internet connection, and then that happens.

I don't even wanna try another unit, I'm changing it tomorrow for the Panny which is the more experienced brand.
post #281 of 3593
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Originally Posted by Julio Bro! View Post

Tried this with other BDs and same thing and this gave me a bad feeling. It's a brand new player with a good review, I did the firmware updates with the internet connection, and then that happens.

Is there a firmware update for the 1600?? I'm not aware of one - not listed on the Samsung support page. What exactly did you download?
post #282 of 3593
purchased the 1600 yesterday. havent watched a bluray yet, having too much fun with netflix.
post #283 of 3593
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Originally Posted by lloyd123 View Post

Is there a firmware update for the 1600?? I'm not aware of one - not listed on the Samsung support page. What exactly did you download?

Yeah, maybe I wasn't clear on that. I meant I did the process, and yes it didn't download anything because it was up to date.

I searched this thread and didn't find anything regarding Bonusview. Anyone else tested this feature to see if working right.
post #284 of 3593
I returned my 1600 yesterday and saw they had an open box 1600 sitting there. The 1600's were on sale for $279 from $299 and the open box was at $249 so I asked if I could get $20 off of that since the others were on sale and they did it.

So now I've got 30 more days to try this unit out and wait for a firmware update to smooth any issues out and only paid $229 for it. My experence with Best Buy is if I have problems with this one they'll let me exchange it for a new one! So if someone returned it because its bad instead of just not liking it I will exchange it and get a new one for $229. Not to bad a deal!!
post #285 of 3593
My 1600 appears to have a problem. I have never been able to make it thru an entire movie without the hdmi connection dropping out for about 5 seconds. When this happens, the screen goes black as if I had just changed inputs on the TV. When the connection is re-established, the scene in the film comes back as if it had just blacked out for a moment.

I bought a new Yamaha receiver to go with the new blu-ray player (an upgrade from my Sony S300) for the HD audio. Samsung says they have no reports of any other such issues, and they tell me to send it into them for repair.

I'm running:
- Samsung bd-p1600
- Yamaha rx465
- HP DLP 65 inch DLP
- HDMI connections

Anyone else scene such a problem? I've tried multiple sets of hdmi cords (just in case), but it continues to happen with multiple blu-ray discs (Spiderman 3, Wall-e, National Treasure 2).
post #286 of 3593
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Originally Posted by TexasKid View Post

My 1600 appears to have a problem. I have never been able to make it thru an entire movie without the hdmi connection dropping out for about 5 seconds. When this happens, the screen goes black as if I had just changed inputs on the TV. When the connection is re-established, the scene in the film comes back as if it had just blacked out for a moment.

I bought a new Yamaha receiver to go with the new blu-ray player (an upgrade from my Sony S300) for the HD audio. Samsung says they have no reports of any other such issues, and they tell me to send it into them for repair.

I'm running:
- Samsung bd-p1600
- Yamaha rx465
- HP DLP 65 inch DLP
- HDMI connections

Anyone else scene such a problem? I've tried multiple sets of hdmi cords (just in case), but it continues to happen with multiple blu-ray discs (Spiderman 3, Wall-e, National Treasure 2).


are going from your blu ray to the yamaha via hdmi, if so try going straight from the blu ray to your tv and see if it still happens, then you can narrow down if its the blu ray or the receiver
post #287 of 3593
I tried both going direct to the TV and thru the receiver. I don't think I ever saw it happen going direct to the TV. However, I have my original blu-ray player (s300) also hooked up thru the receiver, testing in the same HDMI input slot, and I can't get it to fail.

Talked to Yamaha, and as expected they told me it would not be the receiver causing it. He claimed that there is a different software interface b/w going direct to the TV and thru a receiver. Not sure I buy that rationale though.

Samsung heard my full story, and to their credit, they did not try to blame the receiver. Instead they asked me to send it in. I boxed it up last night and will be shipping it today. Labor warranty is only 90 days, so I figured I better try now rather than continue spending hours each night testing each scenario (different cables, different hdmi input slots, different players, etc.).

It would be a lot easier if the error happened every time the unit came on, but it takes anywhere from 10 minutes into a film to 1 hr 15 mins into the film to start happening. The key is that it always happens... just a matter of time. Weird. Oh, and frustrating.
post #288 of 3593
Well, changed the Samsung for the Panny BD60; went to Sears and after a 10 minute talk got the Panny with a 5% discount and payed only about $15 more, nice.

First test was updating which it did, next was Bonusview, which ran perfectly. Next was using the Viera Cast system which provides access to YouTube and Picassa, all worked great.

So here I stay because that's what you expect of a new BD player; I'll be on that forum.
post #289 of 3593
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Originally Posted by Barney_DaPurple1 View Post

It's probably not worthwhile to bitstream (audiophile) if you're using FO. You probably couldn't bitstream lossless audio with FO connection.

bitstream (re-encode) is the optimum setting if you're connected with FO. This will re-encode primary and secondary audio to DTS so you can bitstream it with a FO connection. HTH.

Is it possible to get 7.1 on FO? I would think that it is considering I get some sound out of the extra two speakers on some movies with the 360 (using FO) as well as on some TV where I'm using a spare RCA cable as a digital cable (can't recall the name of that type of connection, S/PDIF?). I picked up the 1600 when I couldn't find a 2550 locally. I would have gone ahead with the 2550 online but I was locked into a Best Buy purchase because I bought it on an exchange.
post #290 of 3593
I bought my 1600 last week, and the last couple days i have noticed that when i switch from watching a bd to another, without shutting off the player, the second bd will have different types of load issues, such as we were juat watching beverly hill chihuahua with no problems, then my daughter decided she wanted to watch madagascar 2, so we stop the fuirst movie and ejected it, then loaded up madagascar 2, and when it loaded up it went straight to the main menu but did not load any of the items such as play, set up and such, it didnt even play all the previews it normally does. i turned the player off and back on and the disc loaded up normally, played previews and all. has any one else had this sort of player
post #291 of 3593
I bought this player yesterday. Playing The Dark Knight, I am getting skipping. As I have gotten further into the movie though, its a lot more infrequent. Also, experiencing some pixelization I haven't updated it or anything yet. I may return it and save up for a PS3.

How could Samsung **** this up so much. How can they make a BD-Player that sucks at playing Blu-Ray discs. I'm definitely returning it. Is the Sony BD-S350 a quality player?
post #292 of 3593
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Originally Posted by wp34gsh View Post

I bought my 1600 last week, and the last couple days i have noticed that when i switch from watching a bd to another, without shutting off the player, the second bd will have different types of load issues, such as we were juat watching beverly hill chihuahua with no problems, then my daughter decided she wanted to watch madagascar 2, so we stop the fuirst movie and ejected it, then loaded up madagascar 2, and when it loaded up it went straight to the main menu but did not load any of the items such as play, set up and such, it didnt even play all the previews it normally does. i turned the player off and back on and the disc loaded up normally, played previews and all. has any one else had this sort of player

i exchanged this unit today at bestbuy as i just bought it a week ago. and i am still having the same problem, it seems as though i can not play movies back to back wiothout shutting off the player. the second disk will either give a disc can not be played error or it wont load right. anyone else had this issue? i have had it with two units now,
post #293 of 3593
Big lip-sync problems with all Blu-ray discs when BD-P1600 is set lower than 1080p. No, it's no the receiver.



Alex
post #294 of 3593
Question for you guys. i picked up a 1600 on Saturday. I do not have internet at my house. Is there any way to update the firmare on the dvd player without the internet? I'm hoping i could burn it to dvd or put it on a usb disk.
post #295 of 3593
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Originally Posted by lloyd123 View Post

Not that there's really anything worth viewing on BD-Live but I haven't been able to get any Disney BD-Live connection to work with my 1600. I called Disney and they're clueless - said it was probably a Samsung firmware issue. I tried a Dreamworks release and the BD-Live works with no problem so I'm not sure who's at fault here. I did some searching and there was a similar problem with the 1500 last year - not sure if that was ever resolved and,if so, was it a Disney or Samsung fix.

Edit - just tried a Sony BD rental from Netflix last night and the BD-Live worked so this has to be a Disney thing.

I tried out BR-Live on Disney's "Bed Time Stories" and had no problems. It took awhile for it to get to Disney and when it did, it had to download software for Disney's BD-Live. It installed and then connected to another menu with several games and stuff. I didn't try any of them, was just looking to see what BD-Live was about. I have a 1 GB flashdrive connected in the rear USB port.
post #296 of 3593
This thing is really pissing me off. One minute it will barely be able to play 1 second of a movie and sometimes it plays perfectly. Literally, 5 minutes ago, I was getting extreme pixelization and screen tearing as well as skipping. Now, its playing almost perfectly with only a few minor audio hiccups. I just changed the position of the player.
post #297 of 3593
I need some help here. My BD-P1600 is connected to Panny th42pz85 1080p plasma via Onkyo TX-SR604 receiver. All connections are HDMI. My problem is that Sammy reverts the resolution to 1080i every time I switch it on. I have to force it to 1080p every time. Has anyone seen this? Is it a problem with Onkyo 604 that it doesn't support 1080p? As far as I can make out, manual states it supports up to 1080p. Anyone?
post #298 of 3593
Update, I let my brother test the blu-ray disc(Dark Knight) in his PS3 and no problems. I know the PS3 is considered a top of the line player and wouldn't be as susceptible to disc problems, but there is just a huge gap in quality. The PS3 played it perfectly. The Samsung is unwatchable.
post #299 of 3593
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Originally Posted by ibarney5 View Post

Update, I let my brother test the blu-ray disc(Dark Knight) in his PS3 and no problems. I know the PS3 is considered a top of the line player and wouldn't be as susceptible to disc problems, but there is just a huge gap in quality. The PS3 played it perfectly. The Samsung is unwatchable.

You try any other movies besides Dark Knight? Maybe you should exchange it for a new one or return it like you said you were going to 3 days ago. I've fed my 1600 at least 40+ movies without a hitch so far.
post #300 of 3593
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Originally Posted by bunts View Post

I need some help here. My BD-P1600 is connected to Panny th42pz85 1080p plasma via Onkyo TX-SR604 receiver. All connections are HDMI. My problem is that Sammy reverts the resolution to 1080i every time I switch it on. I have to force it to 1080p every time. Has anyone seen this? Is it a problem with Onkyo 604 that it doesn't support 1080p? As far as I can make out, manual states it supports up to 1080p. Anyone?

Hey bunts,

what's your HDMI output set to in your receiver? I'm not familiar with the 604, but my 606 has the option to upconvert to 720p, 1080i, or "through" which doesn't molest the 1080p signal.
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