Official Samsung BD-P1600 Owners/master thread - Page 111

I have been happy with my BD-1600. I recently upgraded the firmware and now it seems like Pandora gets stuck when it gets to a commercial break. The BD-1600 used to just play music without breaks but the latest firmware has played a few commercials and now it gets permanently stuck when getting to a commercial spot (I think).

My firmware is: BEv2.13_101204A_XAA

The commercials are not due to the new firmware, as I'm still on the original firmware that came with my machine (BEv1.25_090119_XAA) and I get the commercials too. I don't get the hangs through.

Hello,

A friend recommended this forum since I was having trouble with my player. I have an Samsung BD-P1600/XAA. I updated to the 2.14v firmware just after new years and then was surprised to find that it won't play any Blu Ray discs anymore, plays DVD's just fine. I know there is nothing physically wrong with it because its been sitting on the same TV display since we opened the box a couple years ago. This is the first time I updated my firmware in a while and Samsung's response has been to say that I have to send it in for repair with a fee.
I am not interested in paying to fix the Blu Ray player they broke with their firmware so I wanted to try a lower version of the firmware and apply it to see if it would fix the issue. Samsung does not have this anywhere, so please is anyone able to post a link to an older version like v2.12 (BEv2.12_100825_BDP1600_XAA.zip) or v2.13 to see if that fixes my problem? Thanks!

Use the instructions in the user manual to reset it to factory defaults. I can't remember exactlysomething to do with the FF button on the front panel. Google it if you can't find your user manual.

If that doesn't work you have a problem with your blue laser or the laser transport mechanism.

I did update to the newest firmware hoping by the love of god, it would fix the growing list of problems. I decided, it was time to just drop kick this unit to the curb and leave Samsung altogether. I have never had a product which pissed me off so much as the 1600 did. Have you ever touched the bottom of this unit after it has been on for some time, stove hot....not kidding!! FWIW, this unit is not worth the headaches people. If yours stills works, count yourself lucky. For those that are on the fence, jump off and grab yourself another brand. I went the Panasonic route and haven't even looked back since..
Good luck.....
BTW... one or two DVD's you should try that my unit kicked out was James Bond's "GoldenEye" & Tomorrow never dies...Make sure they are the Special Edition

Here is 2.13:

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/do...s/BD-P1600/XAA

I'm going to have to agree with RedZ that your unit was defective. I've never been a happy camper with the 1600, but one thing I can say for certain is that mine NEVER had overheating issues.

I searched and am surprised no one has posted on this.

My BD-P1600 is 2 yrs old. The HDMI blew out the other night during a movie (freezing, collapsing image, LOUD pops...now dead). The analog av still works. Fortunately it didn't take out my Onkyo receiver HDMI input!!!

Being an old retired audio/electronic tech, I opened it up to "see what I could see". Apart from residual solder flux still on the board, no burns, or popped off surface mount components.

Since it is an "all-in-one" circuit board, the unit is no longer under warranty, is there any cost savings getting a replacement board vs just buying an new BR player? (I think I'll avoid Samsung this next time)


Any thoughts from anyone?
Thanks
Paul

Firmware version 2.15 is available now. I was greeted by the network firmware request message when I fired up my 1600 last night to watch a movie. I have no idea what it fixes but I held my breath and clicked "Yes" to allow the update.

It was the fastest network update I've ever experienced. I'm used to it taking close to thirty minutes, but this one completed in less than five.

Now I just need to test the discs that have still been giving me trouble: A Christmas Story, The Private Eyes (audio sync is behind on both), and Iron Man 2 (audio suddenly jumps out of sync in spots).

BTW, Paul, since good BD players can be had for around $100 these days I say why mess with trying to replace board? Just get a new one.

Yeah that's what I figured, though after a quick search, it looked like it would be closer to $200. At this rate, it's a $100/yr bluray player cost. Not very impressive.

Good luck on the fw upgrade. After getting burned with that upgrade last year and having to re-install the old fw, I now wait as long as I can before I say "yes"

I don't know about anyone else... but I feel pretty stupid for taking 2.15 before waiting for others to chime in.

I now lost the ability to play AVATAR... was working with 2.13
Gives a red screen saying I need the latest firmware in my BluRay player...

I've tried several other BluRay discs... the ones I've tried seem to work well...

I understand there's no "undo" once you've updated firmware?... no way to downgrade?

Yes, you'll find instructions somewhere in this thread. Basically, you find and download the old fw version that you want (just google it). Then put the file on a thumbdrive, plug it into your BR usb port, disconnect the network cable in back, and restart your player. It will see the old file in the usb port as a "new" fw version. Say yes and you're back where you were.

I always make sure I have a copy of the old fw version on hand now before risking Samsung's "upgrades"

Remember that there were some firmwares that wouldn't allow the installation of an older firmware. I don't know if they've stopped doing that. It would be nice to hear if downgrading from 2.15 to 2.13 can be done.

I'm not sure that was ever proven. One or two people had trouble downgrading certain firmware versions, but IIRC some others chimed in and said they were able to do it.

I noticed today that Star Trek TOS episodes no longer have problems with seamless branching on my 1600. I'm not sure exactly which firmware update may have addressed this since it has been a while since I watched any episodes, but on 2.15 the shows work great.

I heard that a firmware update was available for the Sony PS3 to allow Netflix audio to be streamed with 5.1 Dolby surround audio.

Has anyone heard whether such an update may be coming for the BDP1600?

My guess is no, since Samsung probably would just make you buy a newer blu-ray player, but thought I would ask if anyone has heard anything.

After upgrade to 2.15 my BD-P1600 XEF turns on with a massage "LOAD" on panel. No signal to TV (through HDMI, Composite) - it's the most amazing. Unplugging for an hour (or more) didn't help. Reset doesn't work.
I've been upgrading since 2.05 firmware with no problems. And why 2.15 is two times smaller then 2.13?

I removed the cover trying to find some "reset button" or something like that. Found nothing. Any ideas before throw out it of the window?

I have the same problem. It seems to be happening to the Fox Blu-ray movies I own. I disabled all Internet connections just incase but I still get that red screen. I'll have to look for the previous firmware

First time I had an issue with a firmware update with this player

Edit: I tried downgrading back to the 2.13 firmware but the player shuts off when it detects it. It just gives a message saying "error in update" and then shuts off. Strange thing is that in the Samsung website the usb version of the firmware update is 37 mb while the CD version is 70 mb. I'm going to download the CD version and see that might be the problem even though I upgraded through the network.

Read my message above. It's not a joke. I've been upgraded a hundred times and many times heard voices of people who has got a lockup device and I thought it will never happens to me until this moment. So like Phil Collins said "think twice".

Interesting. I just recently lost the HDMI input on my tv. It's a 5 year old DLP, so I figured it might have been "just one of those things" and too expensive to bother fixing. I tried hooking up my DTV box to the HDMI input and trying a different cord, and I can get audio but no video through both.

...and my optical audio wasn't getting anything yesterday, but I haven't investigated yet.

With the amount we have to shell out every few short years to replace this stuff, it makes me wish I could just rent it.

I want to thank all the folks that posted about the 2.15 upgrade problems. Now the rest of us know not to do it! Thank you.
I am especially intrigued about the notion that 2.13 can't be reinstalled from the USB. Has anyone had any luck with that?

Just because a few people reported problems with the firmware, it doesn't mean everyone will experience the same issue. Keep in mind that the people here posting are just a minority of people who own the 1600. Based on what I've read here over the past couple of years, I'm sure majority of owners have had successful results with all the firmware updates that Samsung has released.

No disrespect intended, esp with your 700 posts compared to my 8 :-)

1) I have already been burned by last year's firmware "upgrade" that wouldn't play certain discs (Universal Studios I think) forcing me to find the old f/w and reinstall it. As I remember it took Samsung a few months to correct this, meanwhile they denied there was a problem.

2) As for the "minority who post here": This is kind of a niche audiophile website. Most users will never find it, let alone post. My guess, they will just put up with whatever the problem a buggy firmware produces, until they obediently say yes to the next upgrade. Or if they will assume it's time to buy a new BR player. (hmmm now you've got me thinking conspiracies)

Are you saying that you have used your 1600 enough with 2.15 to declare there are no bugs with it?

Just asking,
Thanks

Are you saying that based on the two or three reports of problems with 2.15 you're ready to declare it a bad firmware?

I think what he's saying is that he's not going to upgrade to 2.15. I probably won't either. After about 7 or 8 upgrades since I bought the thing, I've reached a point where it *mostly* works, and that will suffice until I buy a different brand.

Dave

No, I got rid of my 1600 over a year ago and never looked back. But based on what people have explained to me in the past, I am indeed one of the minority. I used to be like you and blame Samsung for all of my issues, but many people have chimed in and said their 1600 worked perfectly. I believe them. We got lemons, unfortunately. This can happen with any brand and it was our fault for not exchanging them when we had the opportunity to.

Think about it. Who will post in a thread saying, "Hey everyone! I love my 1600! It works great." Very few will. Most people will post on these threads because they have issues. So, unless you ask EVERY single owner of the 1600 how they feel about their unit, you will never know what percentage are unhappy. The people posting on this thread are just a small percentage.

As for the firmware issue, some people have reported that they can't downgrade anymore. Many others have said they were able to downgrade just fine. Not everyone will experience the same issue. That is why I say to take the negative comments about the 2.15 firmware with a grain of salt.

I got a 1600 about a year and a half ago and have never upgraded the firmware.I don't watch a lot of movies,but it has never given me any major problems.Only one rented DVD(not Blu) did not play properly.

v2.15 bricked my 1590 which is basically the same unit as the 1600
called samsung and shipped it out yesterday
they will be fixing free of charge incuding shipping
wonder what firmware verson it will come back with?

Just to illustrate the point MrHT, RedZepplin and others have made here, I own a BD-P1590. I've had it for about 18 months. It has accepted every firmware upgrade from BEv1.03_090528_BDP1600_XAA through BEv2.15_110221_BDP1600_XAA without missing a beat.

I've always assumed firmware would affect like models in the same way. But you are right, I suppose that within model numbers, there can be different chip sets that respond differently to the FW.

All I know is that I was burned last year. I had to re-install the old f/w. Now I'm cautious. Esp when I hear that we can't go backwards anymore.

Anyway, after 2 years, my HDMI port just died...so I need a new machine anyway.

The reason I didn't return my 1600 while it was still under warranty, was because it didn't have a problem...not until that f/w upgrade last year, further exacerbated by Samsung's denial and slow corrective action.