When did Kimber Heros get so expensive???

Greed. Ironically, the price of copper has fallen dramatically.

Really? Do you work for Kimber? Are you really Ray Kimber?
If the answer is no, then why not ask Kimber instead of guessing.

So defensive... Do you work for Kimber? I don't but this is an open forum that's open to any opinion as long as they're still within the rules. Besides, you really think someone in the business of selling will actually admit that?

Anyway back to the topic, I bought the Hero when it first came out, I think it was $125 a pair. If it's that much now, I'll stick with my 10 year old Dunlavy Audio Lab pair or better yet have a store make a Canare + Neutrik XLR pair for only $25. Way better than RCA's...

Defensive? No, but sick and tired of all the rhetoric and innuendo being thrown about. No facts given. Just crap.

And I love how "sounding defensive" to something makes someone an employee of that something. Crazy!

Why not lighten up?

This is a forum and I can post what I like, including my opinion, as long as it's civil and reasonably on-topic. Personally, I am getting tired of this constant and usually belligerent insistence and requirement to post an extensive documentation of facts just to make a comment in a forum.

It's well known that the margins many "high-end" mfrs charge for products is extraordinarily high. For example, I recently bought a 1 meter pair of Zu Wylde IC directly from Zu on a one-day sale for $130; they normally sell for $340. My guess is that it cost Zu approx. $40-$50 to make the cable; they still made approx. $90 on the cables they sold me. Charging $340 for them is exactly comparable to the new pricing of Kimber Hero and representative of the ridiculous margins that high end mfrs charge for many products.

Oh, and BTW, the Earth is flat....

Completely understandable but he wasn't talking about anything technical or even the product itself. He was commenting on the business side of it which is very much open for debate. Thus see below...


I find no other explanation given the strong emotional response. Perhaps a friend of Kimber or a Kimber dealer... Just my opinion of course.

You mean Kimber doesn't buy a different and more expensive brand of copper that allows sound to dance off the wires?

Man, Im bummed!

If you don't price them high enough you'll never be able to sell them to defense contractors.

Angelina Jolie is pregnant with my baby!!!

did you call her and tell here that....?

Is there any documentation of said event....

Um... that was really Octomom. Next time, be sure to put on your glasses.

Damn, too many beers.

I figured as much. I was about to ask what you were smokin but I thought there's gotta be more than 1 drunk posting at one time in a big forum like this.

Kimber pistols didn't go up much, but they're not made of copper and can't sing. So much for Kimber greed.

Why so much?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270687965471

Clearly overpriced either way though.

William, isn't that just for one interconnect though?

I does not say "pair" on the ebay

I would buy it for that price just to test.

EDIT: I guess looking at the package it looks like a pair. hmmmm.

You mean like this?


Really? Do you work for Kimber? Are you really Ray Kimber?

I applaud the OP's patience for waiting almost 2 years, scouring the websites, until he found his Hero's at a price he could afford.

Sure looked like pair to me. 4 connectors in the package.



A two year search, still pays too much, and for something that won't have any effect on the sound. Well done!!

It isnt that shocking that people waste their money on stuff like this but it is amazing that someone who has spent 10 years on this forum hasnt learned a damn thing.

But its his money.....

Sadly, since they cant sell anything to the professionals who KNOW what they are buying, they sell to those who believe the magazine sales hype and fall victim to the allire of well staged dramatic pictures of cables.
(Personally, I prefer pics of sexy ladies, but that is another forum.)

The reason for the increase is simple. They needed to raise the price as more folks are FINALLY learning the truth about entities like Kimber, JPL etc. and the boys who run the scam want a new bass boat.

Guess what guys, in the studios that record what you watch and listen, to the cable is purchased by the 1,000 ft spool for about 350.00 in the case of quadstar Canare (mic cables) and even less for the rack wiring which includes patch cables at about 12.00 ea. And the power cables used are the stock IEC cables that come with all the processors, mix desk etc. Go figure!

That might be true. But it's also clearly the case that there is a subset of consumers who honestly believe that more expensive cables are better. (You can tell who they are because they deny this.) If your market is that subset, then raising your prices can actually increase sales, as the higher prices make the cables appear more desirable.

Not only that, but managed to remember he had posted a thread about it that long ago and update it!

Someone needs to manufacture audiophool -grade hip waders for some of these threads. I am amazed at what happens to an audio signal as it passes through a piece of wire as far as the actual understanding some folks have of how a system actually works and what does and does NOT happen in wire.

So, how many here are interested in bidding on that nice Brooklyn Bridge? I can get you a serious good price.

They do.............check out Orvis.

I'm getting a kick out of the concept that $210 for an 8' cable is okay, but $350, is expensive.

Okay, the concept of a cable "break-in" phase is kinda funny as well.

Of course, the presence of a wager completely destroys the validity of such a test. But then again you know that.... don't you?

How? If he truly can hear all of these changes then why would a wager stop him from being able to? I can hear the difference between a great danes bark and a toy poodle's blindfolded 100% of the time and if somebody bet me that I couldn't they would lose. I'm only asking for 70%. In fact if as he says I'm a moron for not being able to to hear these changes even with cables that aren't fully broken in yet doesn't that strongly imply that he can easily pick out the difference? Seems to me that it would be easy money for him.