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post #511 of 1364
Hey

I'm very interested in this player.
I have the s350 at the moment, would you think that the 560 would offer significant improvement's or should i go the 760 ?

Can anoyone confirm that it upscales DVD's very well (better than my actual s350 ?)

Thks
post #512 of 1364
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Originally Posted by Gagaktom View Post

Hey

I'm very interested in this player.
I have the s350 at the moment, would you think that the 560 would offer significant improvement's or should i go the 760 ?

Can anoyone confirm that it upscales DVD's very well (better than my actual s350 ?)

Thks

I have the 560 upscales fine it is a great player but the 760 has a feww more bells and whistles.
post #513 of 1364
I just picked up the BDP-S360 last night. This is my first BD player. I've only tested a few minutes of a couple different discs, including some SD material too, but so far, I'm super impressed! Needless to say, I can't wait to put in some more time with it (and start picking up some more movies on Blu-ray).

Does anyone know if there's a list somewhere online of all the previous firmware updates and what they were addressing? I ran the network update last night, and it performed without a hitch, updating from something like 1.01.xx to 1.04.xx (does that sound right?). But I'm curious to know what updates have been added in the past. The Sony site only lists the current release notes.

Thanks!

Doug
post #514 of 1364
How do I get this player to send PCM to my receiver? I currently have it set to direct to let my receiver decode the lossless formats. I want to compare the player decoding the codecs versus my receiver doing this process? Also I heard if you let the player decode it will downmix the audio.
post #515 of 1364
You just go into the settings menu and you can choose between whatever and "downmix pcm".
post #516 of 1364
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Originally Posted by Tmac30 View Post

How do I get this player to send PCM to my receiver? I currently have it set to direct to let my receiver decode the lossless formats. I want to compare the player decoding the codecs versus my receiver doing this process? Also I heard if you let the player decode it will downmix the audio.

Set the player to Mix instead of Direct. It will decode and output PCM. There's no downmixing involved if you are using an HDMI connection to a receiver capable of processing multichannel PCM. Downmix means a reduction in the number of channels, from 5.1 to stereo, for example. It doesn't sound like that's what you want to do. And, it is not something the player will do on its own with an HDMI connection in most circumstances.
post #517 of 1364
Sure would be nice if they would include Pandora, Netflix, Youtube, etc... on one player... I do like Sony, but there seems to be better compatibility with other players.
post #518 of 1364
Thaks for the responses guys I will try that out tonight when I watch transformers revenge of the fallen.
post #519 of 1364
Here's a 2.35:1 question for you gurus. I just bought this player and played my first Blu-Ray, Night at the Museum, which is labeled as a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. I fully expected to see the letterboxing on my 40" Sony LCD TV, but it played full-screen! And it looked incredible.

Why did it play full-screen WITHOUT letterboxing or distortion? The TV was NOT set to zoom. And I'm pretty sure I set the player up to send native resolution.
post #520 of 1364
So what's the overall verdict on firmware v.007? Downloaded lastnight... tempted to update but I'm afraid of a bug/glitch.

Opinions/observations?
post #521 of 1364
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Originally Posted by pilot1000 View Post

Here's a 2.35:1 question for you gurus. I just bought this player and played my first Blu-Ray, Night at the Museum, which is labeled as a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. I fully expected to see the letterboxing on my 40" Sony LCD TV, but it played full-screen! And it looked incredible.

Why did it play full-screen WITHOUT letterboxing or distortion? The TV was NOT set to zoom. And I'm pretty sure I set the player up to send native resolution.


it's a typo on the packaging, the movie is 1.85:1
post #522 of 1364
I just picked the s360 player up, went ahead and updated the firmware v.007 since im still within the return policy so I guess im the guinea pig. I played only one movie, Casino Royale, flawlessly. Seems ok from me.
post #523 of 1364
I ended up upgrading to v.007. Update took flawlessly; we played Iron Man w/o issue.
post #524 of 1364
BIslander,
I'm about to get my first Blu-ray player (I'm currently using a wonderful Toshiba A30 player that I purchased brand new for $70 on eBay when Tosh threw in the towel in the format wars, but the time has come) and it never occurred to me that using HDMI to feed my projector might turn off the analog audio out. I'm using good old fashioned stereo receivers to power my speakers; No 5.1, etc. Is your previous post reply about this? This player looks like a good jumping in point if I don't have to worry about audio.
post #525 of 1364
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Originally Posted by Fauxlimey View Post

BIslander,
I'm about to get my first Blu-ray player (I'm currently using a wonderful Toshiba A30 player that I purchased brand new for $70 on eBay when Tosh threw in the towel in the format wars, but the time has come) and it never occurred to me that using HDMI to feed my projector might turn off the analog audio out. I'm using good old fashioned stereo receivers to power my speakers; No 5.1, etc. Is your previous post reply about this? This player looks like a good jumping in point if I don't have to worry about audio.

My previous post was about something else. But, I believe the analog stereo outputs are always active. You should be able to use HDMI to your projector for video and the analog stereo outputs for audio to your receiver. The player will downmix 5.1 to two channels for the stereo outputs.
post #526 of 1364
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Originally Posted by Doug S79 View Post

I just picked up the BDP-S360 last night. This is my first BD player. I've only tested a few minutes of a couple different discs, including some SD material too, but so far, I'm super impressed! Needless to say, I can't wait to put in some more time with it (and start picking up some more movies on Blu-ray).

Does anyone know if there's a list somewhere online of all the previous firmware updates and what they were addressing? I ran the network update last night, and it performed without a hitch, updating from something like 1.01.xx to 1.04.xx (does that sound right?). But I'm curious to know what updates have been added in the past. The Sony site only lists the current release notes.

Thanks!

Doug

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Originally Posted by luckymick View Post

So what's the overall verdict on firmware v.007? Downloaded lastnight... tempted to update but I'm afraid of a bug/glitch.

Opinions/observations?

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Originally Posted by amplive View Post

I just picked the s360 player up, went ahead and updated the firmware v.007 since im still within the return policy so I guess im the guinea pig. I played only one movie, Casino Royale, flawlessly. Seems ok from me.

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Originally Posted by luckymick View Post

I ended up upgrading to v.007. Update took flawlessly; we played Iron Man w/o issue.

I checked my firmware version last night and I'm running 11.04.007. I've been playing bits and pieces of different discs, but nothing all the way through. So far I've been sampling Planet Earth (BBC) Disc 1, Get Smart, Independence Day, and Casino Royale, and have had no problems. I watched some SD stuff too, and didn't notice any weird behaviour. Oh, and the AVS HD 709 disc works great too!

I still have Live Free or Die Hard and The Dark Knight to check out, but I haven't seen either of those movies yet, so I'm waiting until I have a chance to watch them all the way through. And I hope to eventually pick up the Transformers 1 & 2 pack that comes out today (if it includes the 2 disc versions of each, rather than the single disc versions. I've read conflicting descriptions).

Doug
post #527 of 1364
Prior to upgrading the FW to 007, were you experiencing any issues? I just received my S360 from Sony as a replacement for my toasted S300 (after 18 months of use...wow).

Thanks.
post #528 of 1364
My wife and I are getting a Blu-Ray player in the next week or so and I am seriously thinking of the 560. Will it play burned -R and +R dvds?
post #529 of 1364
The WiFi is a nice feature but that is the main thing that attract me to the player. I have had 2 Sony DVD players and both have held up very well.

-How is the upscaling?
-How quick is the startup time and loading discs?
-Is the player stable? Does it play most movies without issues?
-Will the WiFi work okay even when the player is inside my cabinet?

I am looking at going this route instead of the Panasonic BD60/80

I am not worried about Netflix streaming (we don't have it in Canada anyways) and other than being able to play DVD +R and -R for home movies on these formats everything else is gravy.

Opinions and thoughts are appreciated.
post #530 of 1364
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Originally Posted by Zoo View Post

The WiFi is a nice feature but that is the main thing that attract me to the player. I have had 2 Sony DVD players and both have held up very well.

-How is the upscaling?
-How quick is the startup time and loading discs?
-Is the player stable? Does it play most movies without issues?
-Will the WiFi work okay even when the player is inside my cabinet?

I am looking at going this route instead of the Panasonic BD60/80

I am not worried about Netflix streaming (we don't have it in Canada anyways) and other than being able to play DVD +R and -R for home movies on these formats everything else is gravy.

Opinions and thoughts are appreciated.

I think I can answer most of your questions.....
-Upscaling is excellent, the 560 received a great review in this regard in the latest Sound and Vision magazine.
-While I haven't timed the various time to startup and disc load times, I can say it is nice and quick and that is without using the optional quick start mode activated in the menu
-Thus far for me, I am very impressed by how smooth and quiet this player is with absolutely no issues playing blus or regular dvds. Not to mention, I have not noticed a single dropout or hesitation of any kind during playback. Super solid!
-I am using the wifi feature with it enclosed in an AV cabinet with no problems. Of course, your signal strength can vary tremendously depending on the quality of your router and location of it in your home.
- As far as the DVD +R or -Rs, I can say I have tried a +R recording and it played fine....
- I have done 1 firmware update and that worked flawlessly; what is neat is that the player prompts you when there is one available to download.

All in all, I couldn't be happier with this model!
post #531 of 1364
Thank you so much for your reply. Exactly what I am looking for

We are going to stay with our 720p 50" set for the next couple of years and then I hope to replace it with a 55" 1080p LCD at that point (who knows what is going to be on the market then).

While Blu-ray has really matured as a tech I can still see updates being needed to play back some movies due to changes in the copy protection or for some changes to how the java is handled. I have an excellent router and my laptops and Wii are all happy with WiFi. Frankly, I am surprised that more manufacturers are not adding WiFi to their players. Sony is going to win this purchase almost by default. While the Panny players typically have great reviews, the lack of WiFi in the 80 plus the various posts about freezing movies has me liking the 560 more and more.

Looks like a winner

Thanks so much!
post #532 of 1364
What I mean is that the 560 will connect via WiFi with no external addons of any kind? It will work just like a Wii, PS3, or laptop and detect a connection which you can configure and then away you go
post #533 of 1364
The lack of wifi is actually a good thing for many of us.
  • It makes a player at least $50 cheaper
  • Updates (which are pretty infrequent anyway) can easily be done by CD or USB
  • BD-Live is worthless and will likely not be missed

Wifi's most useful purpose is for streaming content. For that reason, I'd get the N460 instead (assuming you don't need analog audio). I see no reason not to get a streaming player these days when all other features are equal.

BTW, sony's upconversion is mediocre, as it is on most other players. You have to start looking at oppo and the like for excellent upconversion. That being said, the difference between mediocre and excellent is minimal and will be noticed only in a few kinds of scenes. There's only so much quality you can squeeze out of a 480i image no matter how much processing you do.

Since you asked earlier, my sony plays +R and -R fine. So does my $100 insignia player, whose upconversion is identical to my sony's (to my eye anyway). These days I buy based on price and features since DVD and bluray PQ are essentially the same for most models except those at the very top.
post #534 of 1364
IT is interesting. We have 2 Sony DVD players here and both play any discs we throw at them. Same for a Toshiba DVD player I bought as an open box and this thing even plays PAL discs! Crazy

Yet, I bought my parents a Toshiba DVD player for Christmas a few years ago and it is really finicky about what it will and will not play. It doesa not play mosts +Rs and even -Rs are hit or miss. Really strange; especially considering that the Toshiba I bought many years ago plays everything I have ever thrown at it!

As an added side note I have thought of buying my parents a Sony 360 for this Christmas. They have no internet access though and I worry about how to update their player from time to time. I guess I could download the update off the web and burn a disc for them. I would just need to figure this out.

As for the 560 and why I like this choice:

-$50 off at present and comes with my choice of 4 BLu-rays as a promotion at Future Shop
-I have had excellent experiences with Sony DVD players
-WiFi allows me to have BD-Live if it ever gets going at all.
-WiFi allows for esy firmware updates when necessary. There is no easy way to wire ethernet cables around my house and quite frankly there is no need to with WiFi nowadays. More players should be adding this feature.

I was going to go with a Panny 60 but the fact that the Sony 560 is the same price with the convenience of WiFi and there is no posts I can see with freezing etc has swayed me over to the 560.
post #535 of 1364
I read in a previous post that the Sony BDP BX-2 at Costco is the same as the Sony BDP BX S360. The Sony website states DTS Master Audio for the S360.

What is puzzling is that the box for the BX-2 that I bought at Costco states "DTS-HD Advanced Digital Out" (like last year's model) whereas the box for the excellent Sony BVD T11 states "DTS-HD Master Audio/Essential". The display on the tv reads "DTS 5.1 Master Audio when playing the T11 whereas the display on the tv simply reads "DTS 5.1" (like last year's model) when playing the BX-2.

I am considering taking this back to Costco and getting the Panasonic model that plainly states "DTS-HD Master Audio" on the box. This is critical to me as I just purchased a DTS-HD Master Audio compatible system based on the marked improvement of DTS-HD Master Audio on the T-11 system.
post #536 of 1364
I'm considering getting the S360 at Wal-Mart, but I have a question in regards to how it work with my setup. I have:

- Onkyo TX-604 receiver, which is not HDMI 1.3, does not decode TrueHD/DTS-HD on teh receiver.

But since the S360 decodes it, I would be able to listen to these two audio formats correctly, right? It will still send them to the receiver, but just as Multi-Channel PCM, correct? And I understand that then you get into conversations about whether or not they sound the same, etc, but for all intensive purposes, aren't they very close to being equal? Thanks.
post #537 of 1364
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Originally Posted by mva5580 View Post

I'm considering getting the S360 at Wal-Mart, but I have a question in regards to how it work with my setup. I have:

- Onkyo TX-604 receiver, which is not HDMI 1.3, does not decode TrueHD/DTS-HD on teh receiver.

But since the S360 decodes it, I would be able to listen to these two audio formats correctly, right? It will still send them to the receiver, but just as Multi-Channel PCM, correct? And I understand that then you get into conversations about whether or not they sound the same, etc, but for all intensive purposes, aren't they very close to being equal? Thanks.

It should sound the same regardless of where it is decoded.
post #538 of 1364
Thinking about picking a 360 up at Wal-Mart today...but have a question that hopefully someone can answer.

Will this player automatically update the firmware like my PS3 does via the ethernet connection?

Or will I have to find the firmware on Sonys site,download it to usb..then transfer it to player?
post #539 of 1364
It's connected to my router by Cat5 cable.
post #540 of 1364
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Originally Posted by quickfire View Post

Thinking about picking a 360 up at Wal-Mart today...but have a question that hopefully someone can answer.

Will this player automatically update the firmware like my PS3 does via the ethernet connection?

Or will I have to find the firmware on Sonys site,download it to usb..then transfer it to player?

Yes, with correct settings.
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