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post #61 of 1364
Agreed!
post #62 of 1364
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Originally Posted by subgenius37 View Post

My biggest reasons for getting rid of the PS3 is the fan noise, which does ramp up to unpleasant levels when in an enclosed cabinet. Along with heat and power consumption. The PS3 consumes around 380 watts. 2009 stand alone blu-ray players consume 20-35 watts. I'll second the whole no IR remote thing as it has put me off buying a all-in-one remote. PS3 will continue to be the perfect blu-ray player for many. Heck I have friends that still use there PS2 as there main dvd player.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/30/4...r-consumption/

135 watts. But whats 245 watts between friends.

The PS3 does do one or 2 more things than a standalone player does.
post #63 of 1364
Any more thoughts regarding the difference between the S560 and S550. The lack of analog outputs and timing of it's release and the relase of the S760 being even later this year, has me leaning towards the S550.
post #64 of 1364
As I mentioned on the first page, the big reason I want the 560 is it saves me the hassle of installing yet another Wi-Fi bridge as I had to to connect the 550 to the Internet.

The 560 IMHO is a perfect "second" player that can be used for a bedroom or second television that doesn't have a full-blown home theater or surround system connected.

For example, if you've already got a DVD player connected to a second HDTV in a bedroom or in the kids' room, why not replace it with a 560 and stop yourself from having to either buy films the kids would watch in both formats or force yourself to view only the DVD version?
post #65 of 1364
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

For example, if you've already got a DVD player connected to a second HDTV in a bedroom or in the kids' room, why not replace it with a 560 and stop yourself from having to either buy films the kids would watch in both formats or force yourself to view only the DVD version?

IMO, the movies kids would watch are not exactly films I would prioritize or be critical of. I couldn't care less if Barney, Dora the Explorer or Hannah Montana weren't HD discs. It's a bit overkill if you ask me. Little Johnny 8 year old isn't going to care if his show has 1080 lines of resolution, and Little Johnny 8 year old's dad I don't think would get too upset that the disc is upscaled rather than native HD when Johnny watches his programs in the living room. If he is, he is way, WAY too into children's programming

There are many situations and applications that simply don't call for high definition and the correlating price tag. Heck, most of the TV shows I watch, I stream online. "House MD" or "The Simpsons" just wouldn't really require 7.1 surround sound and are quite acceptable even on my 17" laptop screen. But if your bedroom isn't equipped with surround sound and a good sized screen, the benefits of blu-ray are virtually zero, so why buy a $400 BD player when you can get one for $200 or a good DVD player for $50?

Blu-ray isn't widespread enough to warrant upgrading exclusively to BD players in the house yet. There are many, many films that are only available on DVD. Furthermore, if your kids are old enough to care about BD, they've probably been playing video games for several years now and would most likely prefer their doting parents to purchase a PS3 rather than a standalone player if said parents are willing to drop $400 on a high end blu-ray player for a bedroom
post #66 of 1364
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Originally Posted by cpc View Post

Any more thoughts regarding the difference between the S560 and S550. The lack of analog outputs and timing of it's release and the relase of the S760 being even later this year, has me leaning towards the S550.

I have had the 550 for a while now. I am using the analog outs. Works really great. If you don't want to wait I say go for the 550.

I was thinking of getting the Oppo to replace it but I may keep my 550 instead or I may keep the 550 for now and wait to get the Oppo much latter once most of the "prospective" bugs are ironed out. The Oppo has just been released for beta testing and appears to, so far, have very few bugs in it.
post #67 of 1364
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Originally Posted by mikeewing View Post

SONY just updated their website.

S360 estimated availability is May 3.

S560 estimated availability is mid-July.

This seems to be a similar release pattern as the 350 and 550. Lower priced model released first followed by the higher priced model.


SONY just changed estimated date for S360 to May 11th.
post #68 of 1364
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Originally Posted by msantti View Post

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/30/4...r-consumption/

135 watts. But whats 245 watts between friends.

The PS3 does do one or 2 more things than a standalone player does.

Hehe That's what I get for believing everything I read. I did some more googling on it and it looks like wattage does vary
http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-3.htm
so somewhere between 130-182 watts. Significantly larger than the 30 or so watts of current blu-ray players.
post #69 of 1364
I just received an emal from SONY.
S360 is available for sale now.
but I went on their website it says MAY 11

As far as noise for the PS3.
I have all equipment in an enclosed cabinet where I keep the door open when watching movie.
The PS3 give me much less noise than my Epson 6500 and far from my behringer ep2500 used for the subwoofer.
post #70 of 1364
I just received another email from Sony saying that the 360 willbe available for order tomorrow, 4/7/09.
post #71 of 1364
Hey guys, I'm thinking about adding the S560 to my setup and leaving the PS3 for gaming only. Will the S560 allow both the analog and HDMI to output at the same time? I'd like to be able to have the HDMI connected to my AVR for movies, but would like to connect the 2 channel analog to the AVR's CD input for listening to CDs. The reason for this is my AVR will not allow me to use the 5 channel stereo function when it receives the signal over HDMI.
post #72 of 1364
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Originally Posted by promike View Post

I just received another email from Sony saying that the 360 willbe available for order tomorrow, 4/7/09.

It looks like the SONY web site is accepting preorders today, but estimated availability is still May 11th.
post #73 of 1364
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Originally Posted by FiOS ConVert View Post

Hey guys, I'm thinking about adding the S560 to my setup and leaving the PS3 for gaming only. Will the S560 allow both the analog and HDMI to output at the same time? I'd like to be able to have the HDMI connected to my AVR for movies, but would like to connect the 2 channel analog to the AVR's CD input for listening to CDs. The reason for this is my AVR will not allow me to use the 5 channel stereo function when it receives the signal over HDMI.

The S560 does not have analog outputs. The rumored S760 model is the one that will have the analog outputs.
post #74 of 1364
Well, now I think I'm leaning toward the PS3 over the S550/560. The PS3 will maintain its value for much longer, while standalones will continue to plumet in price every year. The S550 is selling for $400 now, but it's successor, the 560 will be $350 but won't be available for another 3 months.

I managed to get in on a Sony Card special, so I'll get $200 off any purchase from Sonystyle and right now Sony is offering free shipping and a free 2nd controller ($55 value). So my total cost would be $199 for an 80GB PS3 with two controllers. For that price, I think I can deal with the slight disadvantage in features. The biggest pain will be that the AVR I am going to purchase (H/K 254) cranks the LFE channel on PCM input, which means that every time I use the PS3, I'll have to fiddle with my sub levels. If the PS3 could bitstream, I'd be a happy camper.

The lack of analog outs is a non-issue for me and the lack of an IR receiver is unfortunate, but the workaround isn't too much to bear. I don't think heat or noise will be significant enough that I'll ever notice (I'm used to running a 360).

Anyone want to talk me out of it before I take the plunge?
post #75 of 1364
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Originally Posted by mikeewing View Post

The S560 does not have analog outputs. The rumored S760 model is the one that will have the analog outputs.

I believe the S360 and S560 have 2ch analog out.
post #76 of 1364
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Originally Posted by slimm View Post

I believe the S360 and S560 have 2ch analog out.

That is what I thought based on Sony's website. So, back to my original question, do you think you can have the deck connected via HDMI and 2ch analog out simultaneously? Does what I want to do make sense?
post #77 of 1364
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

It sounds like the Sony 360 and the new Panny 60 are about the same MSRP, with similar (identical?) features. They also seem to be modified only slightly from this year's Sony 350 and Panny 35.

Any thoughts on which of the new ones would be preferable?

The Sony 360 has 7.1 component outputs (I have an old receiver with no HDMI). I don't believe the Panny 60 has that.
post #78 of 1364
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Originally Posted by green2u View Post

The Sony 360 has 7.1 component outputs (I have an old receiver with no HDMI). I don't believe the Panny 60 has that.

There's no such thing as a "7.1 component output." Component is video. If you mean 7.1 analog audio output, no, neither the 360 nor the 560 have that. The 560 is not really a successor to the 550 (which does have multichannel analog), a common misconception.

Both the 360 and the 560 are successors to the 350, with the 560 adding wireless networking. The upcoming 760 will be the true successor to the 550.

The 360 and 560 both do have component video outputs, of course.
post #79 of 1364
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Originally Posted by FiOS ConVert View Post

That is what I thought based on Sony's website. So, back to my original question, do you think you can have the deck connected via HDMI and 2ch analog out simultaneously?

Since no one has either of them yet, I guess you'll have to wait for that answer.
post #80 of 1364
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Originally Posted by FiOS ConVert View Post

That is what I thought based on Sony's website. So, back to my original question, do you think you can have the deck connected via HDMI and 2ch analog out simultaneously? Does what I want to do make sense?

Hi.
All previous Sonys this has been available so it's probably a safe bet that this won't change on the new models either.
post #81 of 1364
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Originally Posted by kingfats View Post

Hi.
All previous Sonys this has been available so it's probably a safe bet that this won't change on the new models either.

Thanks. Looks like I'll have to pre-order one of these and find out!
post #82 of 1364
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Originally Posted by FiOS ConVert View Post

Thanks. Looks like I'll have to pre-order one of these and find out!

I don't suppose Sony Tech Support would respond to this question?
post #83 of 1364
So, the 360 is just a 350 with DTS-HD-Master Audio decoding, and the 560 adds Wi-fi, right?

Wake me when they offer linear FF and RW, slow motion, and frame advance like my 10-year old DVD player and 20-year old VHS player.
post #84 of 1364
Do the new Sony players upconvert sd dvd to 1080p/24, as the new Panny BD60/80 does?
post #85 of 1364
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

Do the new Sony players upconvert sd dvd to 1080p/24, as the new Panny BD60/80 does?

No sorry.
post #86 of 1364
to bring back the PS3 vs 560 argument...

As A PS3 owner, there are some limitations for the monolith. The most notable being lack of IR and the look in my equipment rack. However, I personally think the benifits outweigh the costs. For nearly the same price, i can stream media from my computer and play games, and i doubt my TV is good enough to see a difference in PQ between the 2 of them.

Once a BD player with wifi and internal decoding hits the sub-$200 mark i'll purchase something extra for my component rack. Until then, nothing can really replace the ps3 IMHO. Plus i have IR2BT so lack of IR doesn't bother me anymore
post #87 of 1364
Wondering if the BDV-E500W has extra speaker connections. My current receiver has this that I have hooked up to some outside speakers for my deck so I can listen to music out there. I cannot find any info on this. I'm guessing it does not since it is a HTiB.

Thx
post #88 of 1364
I'm not very familiar with the Sony BD players, the 350 and 550, and the new models just coming out. Can anyone comment on how the 1080p upconversion of sd dvd by these compares to that of some of the other players, e.g., the Reon-based Samsungs, or the Panny BD35/55, etc. TIA!
post #89 of 1364
Here's the link.....http://reviews.cnet.com/video-player...?tag=mncol;lst

It looks like Sony removed the eject buttom from the remote on this model (the S350 has it), plus by looking at the remote picture, it still doesn't have the slow motion/Frame by frame option.....C'mon Sony, you are suppose to be the face of Blu-Ray. Why are you releasing sub-par players??????
post #90 of 1364
I just ordered 2 BDP-S360 last night and they said it was in stock for shipment and would be here in 7 to 10 days. My PS3 drive went out and I have to send it out for repair. I have owned a BP-s1 since it came out and it is soooo slowww to load I decided to go with the latest stuff and hope for the best.
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