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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Disclaimer: if you find ill-researched noob questions annoying please look away!

I'll take the rotten tomatoes if I can get a little help quickly! I did a real quick preliminary stab at researching my question but I'm in a pretty serious time crunch and hoping someone can give a quick easy answer.

I just made an impulse purchase of a Viewsonic VX2835wm 28" Wide 'Multifunction HD LCD Display' ($430 out the door at Circuit City). On the box it says that it will work as a PC monitor as well as a HDTV. Which I'm well aware that it can do. I'm personally confident of this product's ability to work well in either role.

But I may need to convince someone else of its ability to work well in the primary role of an HDTV. With that, I don't get much help from: the box, the instruction manual, the manufacturer's website, CNET, Amazon, etc. On Viewsonic's website it's listed under the section for PC monitors.

The most important question I need answered is this:

Is there a serious reason that this product's HDTV capabilities are downplayed? Or put another way, if this set is used primarily as an HDTV, will the experience be less than ideal?

Bottom line, I want to be honest and accurate when I pitch this thing.


The co-chair of the finance committee (Mrs. ddubb) doesn't know this thing is sitting in the basement. We really don't need it. Not sure if she'll decide to make use of it somewhere or make me sell it. She's more likely to want to use it as a TV.

If I need to sell it, my most likely customer base would respond much better to a 28" HDTV rather than a 28" PC monitor. So I'd want to advertise it as an HDTV that can also function as a PC monitor. But most of the advertising and documentation has those functions flip-flopped. One last note, my most likely customers would probably know much less about this technology than myself, and (painfully obvious) I don't know much myself. So they'd be trusting me.

Here are some key specs:

- 1080p

- Native resolution: 1920 x 1200

- PC Compatibility: VGA up to 1920x1200 non-interlaced

- Video inputs include: RGB analog (75 ohms, 0.7 Vp-p / HDMI (with HDCP), component

What am I missing?


If I sell the thing I'd like to be able to provide someone with honest accurate information I find online. As if I'm researching it for them in a way they'd research it themselves. But there's very little mention of the HDTV capability of this set. Here's some examples of why this thing seems to be pushed as a PC monitor.


1. The first and last sentences in the Amazon.com product description:

"ViewSonic 28" VX2835wm widescreen (27.5" viewable) LCD amplifies your desktop experience."

and

"The VX2835wm is perfect for the serious gamer and movie aficionado who want a complete digital entertainment experience on the desktop."


2. On the Viewsonic website, one would navigate through the site thusly to reach this product:

Home>Products>Desktop Monitors>LCD>X Series>VX2835wm.


3. The manufacturer's official User Guide makes nary a mention of how to use this thing as a HDTV.

You get the idea. Some secondary reasons for wanting to understand any possible substandard HDTV issues, aside from honest advertising, is for my own personal edification and education on the subject. Especially in the case that Mrs. ddubb considers using it as a television, I'd want to know what to expect. Thanks.
post #2 of 11
Thread Starter 
I think I just figured it out. I'm guessing there's no digital tv tuner in this Viewsonic product. So as long as its hooked up to cable/satellite it will work fine as a television; that is, as a generic "display" for the decoded signal.

Am I on the right track?

Next question: would a digital tuner be necessary for OTA, or would a tuner even make it possible to view OTA?
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by ddubb View Post

I think I just figured it out. I'm guessing there's no digital tv tuner in this Viewsonic product. So as long as its hooked up to cable/satellite it will work fine as a television; that is, as a generic "display" for the decoded signal.

Am I on the right track?

Next question: would a digital tuner be necessary for OTA, or would a tuner even make it possible to view OTA?

You'll need a tuner to watch any TV from any source. That could be one or more tuners, depending on what TV you want to watch. It should be able to handle digital standard definition at a minimum, and QAM high definition if you want to get HD broadcasts. The tuner can be a standalone tuner hooked to an antenna, a cable box, a satellite box, or a computer with tuner software.
post #4 of 11
I usually do things the other way around and use my HDTV as a PC monitor [IMG]http://************************************/img/2464/i09b0128lrvx/smile.gif[/IMG]
post #5 of 11
This type of set use to be called "HDTV Ready" or "HDTV Monitor" which did not have a tuner. It was all you needed if you had satellite or cable service with a set top box. It would also work with DVD players and VCRs. How well it works is a question I can't answer. A tuner is required for OTA with an antenna. Some of the $40 coupon eligible converters would work using the composite or S-Video inputs (Chanel Master CM-7000 for example). I have a 7000 and it works well with my 32 in HDTV but of course only provides 480i resolution over S-Video. An HD channel displays full wide screen and it looks as good IMO, as a DVD player.
post #6 of 11
If it doesn't work out for you, is there a reason you couldn't return it to the store for a refund?
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all for responding.

regiment1 - so you're saying that if I connect this directly to a set top box (whether satellite or cable) then I still need another tuner between the set top box and the Viewsonic "Multifunction" monitor? I've done some searching for such a product and I can't find one with HDMI output.

As far as using a television as a pc monitor - I've been doing that for about ten years. The first nine with a CRT television, a year ago I got my first HDTV (Samsung 50" 720p DLP). So of course now I have that new hdtv hooked up to my pc.

As you probably know, using a CRT television as a monitor is practically useless for general computer usage, as text is blurry. However photo and video looks as good can be, provided it has good quality content. Hi-res digital photos look better than standard def television programming content; and the set displays nearly as good as a basic crt computer monitor.

Stepping up to a hdtv (the Sammy DLP) is a huge step up, but imho still the experience is less than ideal for general browsing. Text and apps and desktop visuals are always a little off no matter how much I try to tweak settings. But as I said in the case of the CRT tv, once you get photo and video displayed it can look pretty darn good.

As a matter of fact, the best video I've ever seen on my tv so far was viewing the internet. Granted I have no HD-DVD or BD; I subscribe to Dish Network HD with a VIP 722 and have a budget version of an upconverting dvd player. But I do have a hi-def tv tuner card in my pc with DVI out.

When the movie "Speed Racer" first came out they had hi-def movie trailers. I went back recently and the quality was less than it used to be when the movie was new. When I put that content on my Sammy 50" it was the best image I've seen on it so far.

I can't return it because I got it at Circuit City, which is going out of business, all sales final. I'm confident that I can either make use of it around the house; or if wife would prefer to get the money back into the till then I'm confident I can sell it for a bit more than I paid for it.
post #8 of 11
He may have a hard time returning it as Circuit City filed bankruptcy and is going out of business and closing stores left and right. As someone stated before all you need to do is have a set top box to pull hd to get it to work right.
post #9 of 11
You can use an HDTV set top box like the DTB-H260F for OTA reception. You can get these at BB for about $180. I would recommend using an HDMI to DVI cable to fit the monitor, although you can use component video also, if the monitor has component inputs. And, of course, you will need an antenna. You can take the sound from the stereo outputs, or use a receiver with the optical intput for 5.1 surround sound.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks again to everyone. I am continuing to research this stuff but it helps a lot to get some answers here. I'm finding answers on my own but your help gives me a little more confidence. This is way better than walking into BB or Radio Shack and playing the tech-knowledge-lotto.

So by now the s.o. knows. Ironically, she's slightly more inclined to keep it, while I am inclined to sell.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by ddubb View Post

Thanks to all for responding.

regiment1 - so you're saying that if I connect this directly to a set top box (whether satellite or cable) then I still need another tuner between the set top box and the Viewsonic "Multifunction" monitor? I've done some searching for such a product and I can't find one with HDMI output.

The set top box has a tuner in it. It's all you should need.
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