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post #211 of 463
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Originally Posted by jsf0656 View Post

movie guy, i am thinking of ordering a pair of PA-4.0 monitors to use as speakers for my computer. you think those would work good in that capacity or would it be to much?

What are you going to use to drive them?
post #212 of 463
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Originally Posted by RequiemX View Post

My PA-8Fs came.

They're heavy, substantial, and seem better-built than the set of Infinity P362 that I was considering. Don't know what they sound like because I don't have a receiver.

I really, really want to buy my receiver now, but I'm waiting for the Denon AVR-1910 to at least be announced. Want to get either the new AVR or a nice discount on the old.

But the wait...it's horrible!

Dude, you gotta get a receiver and hook those puppies up! LOL.....
post #213 of 463
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Originally Posted by Movie Guy View Post

What are you going to use to drive them?

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh? i guess i'll have to pick up a little 2 channel amp somewhere. there's a couple of good sized flea markets in the area that sell audio equipment. probably could pick one up there.
post #214 of 463
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Originally Posted by RequiemX View Post

My PA-8Fs came.

They're heavy, substantial, and seem better-built than the set of Infinity P362 that I was considering. Don't know what they sound like because I don't have a receiver.

I really, really want to buy my receiver now, but I'm waiting for the Denon AVR-1910 to at least be announced. Want to get either the new AVR or a nice discount on the old.

But the wait...it's horrible!

i know what you mean! i can be patient for awhile but not long.
post #215 of 463
anyone know if these babies will come back to ebay for the 200 dollar mark? the auctions i am seeing now are $400+. i have been searching for some fronts for a while now, and stumbled across this thread today after finding a set on ebay. i will be using an hk avr 254. i see a ton of great feedback on these speakers, but not many comparisons. anyone have some good comparison links, or reviews?

i was really looking into the infinity p362's, but i may give these a try if they come around for the 200 dollar price.
post #216 of 463
When I bought my pair from Sound Distributers(about a week ago), the ebay auction said 2 left. I got one of those 2, so I'm guessing they are gone at the $200 price now, since I believe they were clearing out inventory to make room for a newer model. That is speculation on my part, though.

Also, the auction specifications clearly stated that these speakers have a 92dB sensitivity rating. When mine arrived the box specified 89dB, rather than the advertised 92. This was a bit disappointing, as I run them from an HTPC with an integrated amplifier that has just a bit less power than I would like. They are definitely not as loud at a given amplifier setting as the low end bookshelf speakers they replaced. The sound quality is about what I expected (good for the price), but the fact that the sensitivity is not as advertised is a disappointment.
post #217 of 463
dang. im always a day late and a dollar short. cashbacks down to 8 percent from 14 yesterday, my other ebay coupon expires in a day, and the speakers i want are oos! decisions decisions. i really like the wood finish on these, but i may end up going with the infinity 362's.
post #218 of 463
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Originally Posted by elesquiador View Post

When I bought my pair from Sound Distributers(about a week ago), the ebay auction said 2 left. I got one of those 2, so I'm guessing they are gone at the $200 price now, since I believe they were clearing out inventory to make room for a newer model. That is speculation on my part, though.


new 4 speaker design! Dual 8" woofers!! PRICED PER PAIR Item number: 140312659897

That item number above still shows 19 pairs in stock.

Good luck!
post #219 of 463
auction is ended man.
post #220 of 463
glad i jumped on them when i did. i knew that price wouldnt last long. incredible price for the sound and quality of these speakers!
post #221 of 463
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Originally Posted by jsf0656 View Post

glad i jumped on them when i did. i knew that price wouldnt last long. incredible price for the sound and quality of these speakers!

And How! The auction for $199 has ended. Man, I'm glad I got a pair because now they'll cost you double the price. Still worth the money but at $199 it was a steal!
post #222 of 463
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Originally Posted by elesquiador View Post

When I bought my pair from Sound Distributers(about a week ago), the ebay auction said 2 left. I got one of those 2, so I'm guessing they are gone at the $200 price now, since I believe they were clearing out inventory to make room for a newer model. That is speculation on my part, though.

Also, the auction specifications clearly stated that these speakers have a 92dB sensitivity rating. When mine arrived the box specified 89dB, rather than the advertised 92. This was a bit disappointing, as I run them from an HTPC with an integrated amplifier that has just a bit less power than I would like. They are definitely not as loud at a given amplifier setting as the low end bookshelf speakers they replaced. The sound quality is about what I expected (good for the price), but the fact that the sensitivity is not as advertised is a disappointment.

Sorry your disappointed with the 89dB. I agree, they shouldn't be advertising them as such. But the usual rule of thumb is + or - 3dB. Also, these speakers wanna be driven by a receiver with some decent power output. How many watts does your integrated amp put out?
post #223 of 463
I'm driving it with an MSI Media Live Diva (5.1 version). See this thread - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...003579&page=59 . It puts out 100W/channel, and many people are driving much higher end speakers than these with it, but it still seems I could use a bit more. I run the volume at about 80percent when listening to music, and occasionally turn it all the way up.
post #224 of 463
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Originally Posted by elesquiador View Post

When I bought my pair from Sound Distributers(about a week ago), the ebay auction said 2 left. I got one of those 2, so I'm guessing they are gone at the $200 price now, since I believe they were clearing out inventory to make room for a newer model. That is speculation on my part, though.

Also, the auction specifications clearly stated that these speakers have a 92dB sensitivity rating. When mine arrived the box specified 89dB, rather than the advertised 92. This was a bit disappointing, as I run them from an HTPC with an integrated amplifier that has just a bit less power than I would like. They are definitely not as loud at a given amplifier setting as the low end bookshelf speakers they replaced. The sound quality is about what I expected (good for the price), but the fact that the sensitivity is not as advertised is a disappointment.

i believe my polk R-50's were 90db but i cant really tell a difference in volume output between them and the PA-8F's. only the detail!
post #225 of 463
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Originally Posted by elesquiador View Post

I'm driving it with an MSI Media Live Diva (5.1 version). See this thread - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...003579&page=59 . It puts out 100W/channel, and many people are driving much higher end speakers than these with it, but it still seems I could use a bit more. I run the volume at about 80percent when listening to music, and occasionally turn it all the way up.

That can't be a true 100 watts per channel because my Yamaha receiver is 95 watts per channel and if I ever turned it up to 80% the paint would peel off my walls let alone turning it up all the way. There's no way I could do that so I can almost say for sure that your MSI Media Live Diva is not a true 100 watts per channel. I once had a Sony receiver that claimed to be 110 watt per channel and it couldn't have been more than half that in true wattage. A lot of these companies bloat their specs. Ever see some of these home theater in a box sets that claim to be 1000 watts of power then when you get them home and hook them up they don't have 1/4 of that power. That's bloated specs. I'm not saying your MSI Media Live Diva is doing that. All I'm saying is if I ever put my receiver 80% up your ears would bleed so I'm almost certain your MSI is not putting out a true 100 watts per channel. They're probably basing that on peak wattage and even then it sounds a little bloated. Anyone else agree with me here?
post #226 of 463
I agree , I have a Onkyo receiver and have not turned the volume past 50 and it really is cranking out the sound. I haven't yet tried maxing out the speakers yet, at 50 I can hear it 2 houses away(closed up). Still impressed with the sound of these speakers. I'm enjoying re-watching movies for the audio.
post #227 of 463
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I agree , I have a Onkyo receiver and have not turned the volume past 50 and it really is cranking out the sound. I haven't yet tried maxing out the speakers yet, at 50 I can hear it 2 houses away(closed up). Still impressed with the sound of these speakers. I'm enjoying re-watching movies for the audio.

What's goin on Zippo? Hope all is well? Yeah, I also agree. There's no way that his MSI soundcard is a true 100 watts per channel. Like you If I play my Yamaha at 50% it's shaking the walls. That's the difference when you buy a quality receiver like an Onkyo, Denon, Harmon Kardon, Marantz, or Yamaha. If it says the receiver is 100 watts per channel then that's what your gonna get. A lot of companies like to bloat their wattage specs. Like I said before, I bought a Sony from Frys.com and it claimed to be 110 watts per channel. But when I hooked it up and started to crank it the true wattage couldn't have been more than 45-50 watts per channel and when played at loud levels it would get distorted. Anyway, I packed that puppy up and returned it the very next day. That's another reason to buy a quality receiver. When you pump up the volume it's clean undistorted sound. I'm also loving my PA-8F's. They're starting to sound even better as their getting close to their break in period. Later dude!
post #228 of 463
What kind of speakers do the PA-8F series compare too?
post #229 of 463
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What kind of speakers do the PA-8F series compare too?

I can't really say for sure what speaker line they compare to. All I can tell you is that they sound awesome. I had the Acoustech line of speakers prior to the PA-8F's and the horns were sickening to say the least. They were very harse and they over exaggerated the highs like nothing else I've ever heard. The other thing that bothered me about the Acoustech's was the fact that low frequencies were literally non existent. If you put you ear close to the Acoustech speakers all you would hear were those overbearing horns and hardly anything coming out of the drivers. The PA-8F's are much warmer and the drivers are far more present but the highs from the 1" dome tweeter are nice and crisp not harsh and over bearing like the horns on the Acoustech's. I am a musician and also have quite a few musician friends and every single one of them said that the Acoustech's were bright and harse sounding. The PA-8F's plain and simple cut the mustard when it comes to the highs, mids, & lows. I love them. Just browse through the rest of this forum to see that I'm not the only one saying this. When I went on the Acoustech forum to voice my opinion on the Acoustech's I was attacked like you wouldn't believe. The only thing I can think of is that the people who bought the Acoustech's spent decent money for their speakers and did not want to hear in the slightest fashion any negative reviews. I guess they were very offended by what I said? In any case, I'm totally satisfied with the PA-8F's. They rock with both Movies, & Music!
post #230 of 463
Like Movie Guy said, I find the drivers in these speakers top notch. I've never had towers before, always had speakers with 12 or 15 inch woofs. The pa's with the 2-8 inch drivers, mid range and tweeter will not disappoint you. I'm the proud owner of 6 of these. If and when these speakers go south I will be buying again. But I don't see that happening any time soon, as the build quality of the Pa's is right up there with the best and better than some more expensive ones.
post #231 of 463
Has anyone bitten on the $999 PA-8F deal that includes the 2 front, center, woofer and 2 rears? I missed out on the $199 deal for just the fronts as well but am consider the whole set.
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Has anyone bitten on the $999 PA-8F deal that includes the 2 front, center, woofer and 2 rears? I missed out on the $199 deal for just the fronts as well but am consider the whole set.

I'm planning on going with the PA-6B bookshelves in the rear. Those PA-8S are just too massive.
post #233 of 463
Just a heads up to you guys waiting or wanting the PA-8F's to go back to $200...it ain't gonna happen. I contacted dealer about it and the only reason they were that cheap was they were clearing them out as they were the old model to make room for the new titanium model. He says the new titanium model is far superior to the old model so maybe you shouldn't feel too bad about not getting them!
post #234 of 463
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Just a heads up to you guys waiting or wanting the PA-8F's to go back to $200...it ain't gonna happen. I contacted dealer about it and the only reason they were that cheap was they were clearing them out as they were the old model to make room for the new titanium model. He says the new titanium model is far superior to the old model so maybe you shouldn't feel too bad about not getting them!

This is true, they were clearing out the old for the new thus the reason they were $199. But I'll bet the dealer didn't tell why they were clearing them out for so cheap did he? I'll get to that later. Also, of course the dealer is gonna tell you that the newer model is far superior than the older now that he's sold out all of his inventory and all he has left is the Titanium inventory. That's just common sense. That's because now he wants to get you to buy the Titanium PA-8F's being that's all he's selling now. They also happen to have the same Mylar drivers minus the middle cone and they're just a different color "silver". That's the only difference. I'll bet he also didn't tell you why they changed the drivers did he? It's because Klipsch is threatening to take them to court for copyright infringement because Klipsch felt the bronze and black drivers resembled the drivers they were using in their own speaker line. This is the very exact same reason why Acoustech also had to change their bronze & black drivers to what they're also calling their new "Titanium" line. The older PA-8F's are not even that old. If you look at the specs on the so called newer Titanium PA-8F's you'll see that they're exactly the same as the older PA-8F's. Exact! Even down to the the dimensions and weight. The only thing that's far superior on the newer Titanium PA-8F's is the $470 price tag. That's about it. But as far as performance goes their identical so if I were you I wouldn't be so happy that you didn't get the chance to steal a pair for $199 because if you buy the Titanium PA-8F's [which appears to now be your only option] your going to be getting the same exact speaker as the $199 PA-8F's.
post #235 of 463
movie guy, just wanted to give a heads up for ya. dont know if you like foreigner, but the new soundstage foreigner DVD is awesome! sounds just like the original! sounds great on the PA system also!
post #236 of 463
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Originally Posted by jsf0656 View Post

movie guy, just wanted to give a heads up for ya. dont know if you like foreigner, but the new soundstage foreigner DVD is awesome! sounds just like the original! sounds great on the PA system also!

Dude, I happen to like Foreigner a lot. I seen them live with the original singer [Lou Gramm] right before he had to leave the band due to his illness. His voice was no where near the same but overall they still sounded good and were very tight. I have the the Foreigner Alive & Rockin and Foreigner Live At Deer Creek DVD's. The Alive & Rockin DVD is with their current singer [Kelly Hansen] and the Deer Creek DVD features Lou Gramm. Both are good. The sound on the Alive & Rockin DVD is better. But the Deer Creek isn't bad either. Especially when pumping them through the PA-8F's. Hehehe........
post #237 of 463
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Dude, I happen to like Foreigner a lot. I seen them live with the original singer [Lou Gramm] right before he had to leave the band due to his illness. His voice was no where near the same but overall they still sounded good and were very tight. I have the the Foreigner Alive & Rockin and Foreigner Live At Deer Creek DVD's. The Alive & Rockin DVD is with their current singer [Kelly Hansen] and the Deer Creek DVD features Lou Gramm. Both are good. The sound on the Alive & Rockin DVD is better. But the Deer Creek isn't bad either. Especially when pumping them through the PA-8F's. Hehehe........

then you will most certainly like the soundstage production of foreigner live! BTW, i'm a big star trek fan and the series of movies are fantastic thru the PA-8F's! i have most of them including the 1st and 2nd season of the original tv series.
post #238 of 463
Just a quick question. Do the premier acoustic speakers come with speaker wire to get you started? I'm guessing no but I thought I'd ask for the heck of it.
post #239 of 463
deafjeff No, they definitely do not They are not creative 5.1 boxed system for your PC There`s another few hundred bucks you`ll have to spend on wires to sqeeze the juice out of your PA`s
post #240 of 463
I have read this thread about these speakers. I was wondering if anyone has bought the whole system, and how it sounds together, And for the money are they about the best speakers I can buy? Thanks I appreciate your time
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