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post #31 of 463
3/15/09 at 2:53pm
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Now who's "panties are in all in a knot"?

Another jealous PA-8F hater all because he's stuck with those horrendous sounding Acoustech's with their over exaggerated 6.5" horns. Hahahaha! Man am I glad I got rid of those things and went with the Premier Acoustic PA-8F's. The difference in the tonal quality is night and day. No offense to all the other Acoustech owners out there but the BIC Acoustech's sounded like tin cans compared to PA-8F's. This person [Lilmike2069] has been putting all kinds of crap on this thread all because I said I didn't like the Acoustech speakers because I thought they were excessively bright. He's just annoyed because he knows he's stuck with them tin cans,
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post #32 of 463
3/15/09 at 4:06pm
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Another jealous PA-8F hater all because he's stuck with those horrendous sounding Acoustech's with their over exaggerated 6.5" horns. Hahahaha! Man am I glad I got rid of those things and went with the Premier Acoustic PA-8F's. The difference in the tonal quality is night and day. No offense to all the other Acoustech owners out there but the BIC Acoustech's sounded like tin cans compared to PA-8F's. This person [Lilmike2069] has been putting all kinds of crap on this thread all because I said I didn't like the Acoustech speakers because I thought they were excessively bright. He's just annoyed because he knows he's stuck with them tin cans,

I couldn't agree with you more.
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post #33 of 463
3/15/09 at 4:25pm
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I couldn't agree with you more.

Is that why you also chose to purchase and use a 'tin can' for your center? The one speaker that plays the most sound in 5.1/7.1? You both go on and on about your never ending knowledge about proper sound be neither of you have a uniform front stage.
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post #34 of 463
3/15/09 at 4:53pm
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Is that why you also chose to purchase and use a 'tin can' for your center? The one speaker that plays the most sound in 5.1/7.1? You both go on and on about your never ending knowledge about proper sound be neither of you have a uniform front stage.

Your right I originally had a Athena LS-C100B center channel, which was the perfect match. (for music).. But that's not what I wanted. I watch 90% movies to 10% music and wanted more dialog from my center channel. Yes I had to adjust the db's down a couple of notches off the center cause it is a piercing speaker, but with the bigger woof's it's perfect for what I wanted.
Which is what we are all looking for. WHAT WE WANT.
I also didn't tell you I have another amp powering four 12 inch passive sub woofers, but don't always fire them up.
And isn't this a thread about PA-8F's for others thinking about buying speakers ??
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post #35 of 463
3/16/09 at 5:02am
i'm in the market for new speakers to replace my polk R50's. do you think these would work? i already have the PA120 and i like it!
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post #36 of 463
3/16/09 at 2:39pm
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i'm in the market for new speakers to replace my polk R50's. do you think these would work? i already have the PA120 and i like it!

Not only do I think they'll be an excellent replacement but I think you'll discover them to be an upgrade from your R50's. The PA-8F's sound great. My friend has a set of R50's as his fronts and the in my honest opinion I think the PA-8F's sound a lot better. Much better tones and better imaging. The thing that impresses me about the PA-8F's is that they sound great with both movies and music. But don't take my word for it. Order a pair and judge for yourself. Yeah, the PA-120 seems to be a good sub that's gotten pretty good reviews. Hope this helps?
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post #37 of 463
3/16/09 at 2:50pm
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Your right I originally had a Athena LS-C100B center channel, which was the perfect match. (for music).. But that's not what I wanted. I watch 90% movies to 10% music and wanted more dialog from my center channel. Yes I had to adjust the db's down a couple of notches off the center cause it is a piercing speaker, but with the bigger woof's it's perfect for what I wanted.
Which is what we are all looking for. WHAT WE WANT.
I also didn't tell you I have another amp powering four 12 inch passive sub woofers, but don't always fire them up.
And isn't this a thread about PA-8F's for others thinking about buying speakers ??

Zippo, don't listen to this guy [Lilmike2069]. He's a hater and immature person. This flame war between me and him all started when I told him that I wasn't all around happy with the Acoustech's because I felt their horns were a little too bright for my taste. I told him that after owning them for 9 months I started hating them thus the reason I went with the PA-8F's. Well, after that he went on to post all kinds of obnoxious "Know It All" replies to all my posts to the point where he started putting words in my mouth to try and make me look like a dummy in his Acoustech thread. Then he started coming here posting all kinds of nonsense just to spread lies and bait me into another argument with him. But I won't get into that anymore. It's a shame that he isn't mature enough to understand that not everyone is going to have a positive review about his beloved Acoustech's. I thought these forums were here for people to voice their opinions regardless if they are positive or negative? But I guess not? Not according to Lilmike2069? In any case, your response to him was brilliant. Kudos to you for sticking up to this idiot! He claims to be an electrical engineer. Hahaha! Go on the first page of his Acoustech thread and check out his pictures. Look at the way he wired up his TV and front speakers etc. He's got wires from his flat panel TV running down his wall fully exposed [Real Eye Candy] rather then hiding them neatly inside the wall then he's got his front speaker wire running over the rug rather than hiding them nice and neatly under his rug. I can understand this if he had hardwood floors but the guy has rugs. LOL. Also check out his wires in the back of the component stand. They look like a rats nest. Hahahaha! And he claims to be an electrical engineer. Well, all I know is that I wouldn't want him wiring up my stuff. Hahahaha! Later dude!
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post #38 of 463
3/16/09 at 3:56pm
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Not only do I think they'll be an excellent replacement but I think you'll discover them to be an upgrade from your R50's. The PA-8F's sound great. My friend has a set of R50's as his fronts and the in my honest opinion I think the PA-8F's sound a lot better. Much better tones and better imaging. The thing that impresses me about the PA-8F's is that they sound great with both movies and music. But don't take my word for it. Order a pair and judge for yourself. Yeah, the PA-120 seems to be a good sub that's gotten pretty good reviews. Hope this helps?

yes, thanks i'm thinking about trying them!
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post #39 of 463
3/16/09 at 4:19pm
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yes, thanks i'm thinking about trying them!

Your welcome. Yeah, I think you'll like them. Plus, the PA-8F's have dual 8" drivers with a 5" mid driver and 1" dome tweeter. The R50's have smaller 6.5" drivers with no mid driver and a 3/4" dome tweeter. Having the 5" mid driver is especially important if you like to listen to a lot of music. Bottom line is for $248 shipped I feel you'd be hard pressed to find a better sounding pair of speakers. The cherry looks really nice too. It's not like the color of the pic I posted at the top of this thread. They look brownish in the picture but they're actually a darker/reddish color and they're made out of real cherry wood not cheap laminate or vinyl glued onto press board . They look real nice. When I get some time I'll post some actual pics of my speakers.
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post #40 of 463
3/16/09 at 4:27pm
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Zippo, don't listen to this guy [Lilmike2069]. He's a hater and immature person. This flame war between me and him all started when I told him that I wasn't all around happy with the Acoustech's because I felt their horns were a little too bright for my taste. I told him that after owning them for 9 months I started hating them thus the reason I went with the PA-8F's. Well, after that he went on to post all kinds of obnoxious "Know It All" replies to all my posts to the point where he started putting words in my mouth to try and make me look like a dummy in his Acoustech thread. Then he started coming here posting all kinds of nonsense just to spread lies and bait me into another argument with him. But I won't get into that anymore. It's a shame that he isn't mature enough to understand that not everyone is going to have a positive review about his beloved Acoustech's. I thought these forums were here for people to voice their opinions regardless if they are positive or negative? But I guess not? Not according to Lilmike2069? In any case, your response to him was brilliant. Kudos to you for sticking up to this idiot! He claims to be an electrical engineer. Hahaha! Go on the first page of his Acoustech thread and check out his pictures. Look at the way he wired up his TV and front speakers etc. He's got wires from his flat panel TV running down his wall fully exposed [Real Eye Candy] rather then hiding them neatly inside the wall then he's got his front speaker wire running over the rug rather than hiding them nice and neatly under his rug. I can understand this if he had hardwood floors but the guy has rugs. LOL. Also check out his wires in the back of the component stand. They look like a rats nest. Hahahaha! And he claims to be an electrical engineer. Well, all I know is that I wouldn't want him wiring up my stuff. Hahahaha! Later dude!

LOL, I said I was an electrical engineer... not an electrician. Also, I had purchased a brand new house and it did not come pre-wired for a stereo. Those pictures were taken the day after I received the speakers. Here is a picture that was uploaded to photobucket about a week later.


Here's what I ended up doing with the rears soon after.


Its pretty sad when all you can come up with is to try and knock on someone's career. The only reason I even said anything to zippo is because I actually thought it was you using two aliases. I've already stated that there are many others that prefer other speakers over the Acoustech's, and i've never had a problem with that. I'm happy with mine and thats all that matters to me. Anyone that knows how to use the search feature on AVSforum can find your posts (if you havn't edited all of them already) and see that the things you are saying are not true. There was a reason why I decided to speak up about you... others have already uncovered your BS as well. Zippo, I'm glad you enjoy your center and your PA's. What kind of amp do you have on those passive subs? Did you make an enclosure for them or are they free-air?
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post #41 of 463
3/16/09 at 4:28pm
the PA6F's look pretty good also. having the PA120 already i think they would be sufficient.
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post #42 of 463
3/16/09 at 4:57pm
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LOL, I said I was an electrical engineer... not an electrician. Also, I had purchased a brand new house and it did not come pre-wired for a stereo. Those pictures were taken the day after I received the speakers. Here is a picture that was uploaded to photobucket about a week later.

Its pretty sad when all you can come up with is to try and knock on someone's career. The only reason I even said anything to zippo is because I actually thought it was you using two aliases. I've already stated that there are many others that prefer other speakers over the Acoustech's, and i've never had a problem with that. I'm happy with mine and thats all that matters to me. Anyone that knows how to use the search feature on AVSforum can find your posts (if you havn't edited all of them already) and see that the things you are saying are not true. There was a reason why I decided to speak up about you... others have already uncovered your BS as well. Zippo, I'm glad you enjoy your center and your PA's. What kind of amp do you have on those passive subs? Did you make an enclosure for them or are they free-air?

Well, now that does look a lot better. You should have replaced the older pics with the newer ones long ago. Seriously, all kidding aside Lilmike, you did do a nice job there. See, I can give credit where it's due. Dude, let's stop the bickering back and forth. The important thing here is that your happy with your Acoustech's and I'm happy with the PA's which makes us 2 happy people.
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post #43 of 463
3/17/09 at 12:37am
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the PA6F's look pretty good also. having the PA120 already i think they would be sufficient.

The PA-6F's would indeed be sufficient. However, they will cost you more than the PA-8F's. The cheapest I seen the PA-6F's for was on Ebay for $379 shipped. That's $131 more than what I paid for the PA-8F's. The reason they're selling for more than the PA-8F's is because it's not the same distributor that I bought my PA-8F's from. As a matter of fact, the distributor who wants $379 for the PA-6C's also wants $479 for the PA-8F's. That's insane. I won't mention the name of the distributors because I'm not here to promote either of them. Just go to Ebay and you'll see who I'm talking about. There are only 2 distributors selling these speakers so it won't be too hard to find. The only thing is the distributor I bought my PA-8F's from is only selling them in the cherry color not black. But for $248 shipped why would anyone wanna pay $379 for the PA-6F's or almost double the price [$479] for the PA-8F's. Plus, the cherry wood looks so much nicer/elegant than the black anyway. At least I think they do?
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post #44 of 463
3/17/09 at 4:51am
if you dont mind me asking where did you buy them from?
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post #45 of 463
3/17/09 at 10:19am
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if you dont mind me asking where did you buy them from?


Sound Distributors on Ebay. $248 shipped. Can't beat it.
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post #46 of 463
3/17/09 at 3:49pm
those speakers have increased to 429/pair.
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post #47 of 463
3/17/09 at 4:46pm
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those speakers have increased to 429/pair.

No they haven't. They're still $199 and $49 for the shipping. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Premier-Acoustic...3%3A1|294%3A50
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post #48 of 463
3/17/09 at 5:22pm
ok, i was looking on the sound distributors website. they are listed at 429/pair. anyhow, i just ordered them. now what center should i get?
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post #49 of 463
3/18/09 at 2:33am
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ok, i was looking on the sound distributors website. they are listed at 429/pair. anyhow, i just ordered them. now what center should i get?

Cool! Trust me, they're worth the $248 shipped. They sound good to me right out of the box but they say there is a 30 hour break in period so they should sound better with time. I would suggest go with a matching Premier Acoustic matching center such as the PA-6C which goes for about $200 shipped or if you have the extra money the PA-8C is another choice. However, the PA-8C is $100 more. The difference is the PA-6C has dual 6.5" drivers while the PA-8C has dual 8" drivers and a 3" mid range driver. Is spending the extra $100 worth the larger drivers and additional mid driver? Depends? If you have the extra cash then I would recommend going with the PA-8C but I think the PA-6C would suit you fine as well.
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post #50 of 463
3/18/09 at 5:16am
great, i'm going with the PA-6C. i cant wait to try them. i listen to alot of concert DVD's and i would think these would be a huge improvement over the polk R50's. also the polk center i'm using only has 2 5in drivers and 3/4in tweeter. so the PA-6C should outshine those for sure!
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post #51 of 463
3/18/09 at 5:33am
wow, looking at those dimensions it is quite a bit larger than my polk center. i have installed some polk in walls for surround so i'm going to leave them for now.
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post #52 of 463
3/18/09 at 3:31pm
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great, i'm going with the PA-6C. i cant wait to try them. i listen to alot of concert DVD's and i would think these would be a huge improvement over the polk R50's. also the polk center i'm using only has 2 5in drivers and 3/4in tweeter. so the PA-6C should outshine those for sure!

Good choice. To be honest, I can't really see spending the extra $100 for the PA-8C when you could be putting that money towards something else. The PA-6C will be just fine. Yeah, I also mostly listen to and watch concert DVD's. That's the reason I changed from the Acoustech's and went with the PA-8F's. I always felt the Acoustech's sounded really good with movies. Very clear and crisp but when playing music/concert DVD's I felt that the horns on the Acoustech's over exaggerated the high's and made them a little too bright sounding for my taste. Maybe if I had a warmer receiver like a Harmon Kardon then they wouldn't have sounded so bright but I have a Yamaha and Yamaha receivers are known to be a tad on the bright side. But the Acoustech's are not bad speakers at all. Not by a long shot. They are made well and look sharp. I just felt they didn't fair well with music.
I think I was a little hard on the Acoustech’s in some of my previous posts but they are not bad speakers. The speakers I had were of the older HT [Home Theater] series which were specifically designed for movies so I should have know better before I bought them being my main listening was going consist of mostly music DVD's. I think the newer Acoustech PL [Platinum] series may be better with music? Either way, I'm really happy with the way the PA-8F's sound with both music and movies so I'm a happy pup. Hey, let me know when you get everything set up and how you like them. Good luck!
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post #53 of 463
3/18/09 at 3:35pm
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wow, looking at those dimensions it is quite a bit larger than my polk center. i have installed some polk in walls for surround so i'm going to leave them for now.

Yeah, the 6C should sound nice. I'm going to be picking one up very soon myself. I'm probably gonna get the PA-120 sub as well. The in wall Polk's should be ok for the surrounds. What kind of sub-woofer do you have and what make receiver?
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post #54 of 463
3/18/09 at 4:06pm
i got the PA120 about a month ago. i really like it. i have the onkyo 506 right now but i hope to upgrade down the road. i guess i'm about to become an all premier acoustic setup!
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3/18/09 at 5:47pm
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i got the PA120 about a month ago. i really like it. i have the onkyo 506 right now but i hope to upgrade down the road. i guess i'm about to become an all premier acoustic setup!

Very cool! Is the bass on the PA-120 tight & punchy or is it on the boomy side? I currently have a 12" down firing Acoustic Research sub. I've had it for about 7 years now and it sounds ok but at times it can be a little on the boomy side and when I turn up the volume it flutters sometimes. I'll probably order the PA-120 soon as well. The only thing I'll be keeping are my rear surrounds which are Boston Acoustic's. I love the sound they produce. Onko makes an excellent receiver as well so you should be all set with your new speaker setup.
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post #56 of 463
3/18/09 at 6:03pm
well, i'm coming from the velo VX10 and i can tell you that this sub is totaly different. the velo could be a little boomy at times but the PA120 sounds much deeper and smooth. the velo would be punchy at times but the PA120 just provides deep room filling bass thats not obnoxious at all. just fills in the low end very well. thats the best way i can describe it.
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post #57 of 463
3/19/09 at 2:33pm
movie guy, have you heard any reviews or know anything about the PA in wall speakers? i might consider changing out my polk in walls to match the rest of my PA lineup. also, what guage speaker wire are you using with the PA8F's?
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3/19/09 at 5:23pm
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well, i'm coming from the velo VX10 and i can tell you that this sub is totaly different. the velo could be a little boomy at times but the PA120 sounds much deeper and smooth. the velo would be punchy at times but the PA120 just provides deep room filling bass thats not obnoxious at all. just fills in the low end very well. thats the best way i can describe it.

Yeah, sounds sweet. I'll probably get a PA-120 within the next few weeks. I like to listen to my music pretty loud. Is the PA-120 powerful enough for you?
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3/19/09 at 5:33pm
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movie guy, have you heard any reviews or know anything about the PA in wall speakers? i might consider changing out my polk in walls to match the rest of my PA lineup. also, what guage speaker wire are you using with the PA8F's?

To be honest, I don't know much about the in-wall PA's. I never bothered to look for any reviews but I'm sure they're good. Anyway, it never hurts to have all matching speakers. I'm using 14 gauge Monster THX certified speaker wire. I normally don't like anything Monster sells because all their products are extremely overpriced and they advertise their stuff like it's better than anything else on the market. Like it was made by aliens or something. LOL! However, I got 3 100 ft rolls of the stuff for $30 when CompUSA was going out of business.
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post #60 of 463
3/19/09 at 5:55pm
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Yeah, sounds sweet. I'll probably get a PA-120 within the next few weeks. I like to listen to my music pretty loud. Is the PA-120 powerful enough for you?

the PA120 is plenty powerful, believe me. my grandkids come over frequently and like to watch their animated movies like the incredibles, kung foo panda, cars,etc. they get a big kick out of the loud bass scenes in the movies. those movies have some pretty good bass!
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