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post #361 of 864
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

need some help here.
...first, are most of you happy with your sammy?

i luuuv mine.

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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

any know problems with these sets that might influence whether i purchase one?

what kind of screen does it have matte or gloss? any problems with reflections off the screeen?

reading through the pages you'll see that some people have problems but mine has been perfect. i chose the matte screen because i hate glare. ther is a model with a glossy screen. just go to best buy and look at them side by side.

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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

i've noticed there is both LN40B550 and 530. i can't really see much difference between the 2. i believe the 550 has the red color bezel and a higher contrast ratio, but that is the only difference i can ascertain.
so i would think the 550 is a superior model, but amazon currently is selling the 550 for $10 cheaper than the 530.

i think the difference is the 550 has 1 more hdmi input, higher contrast ratio (probably not noticable), and the colored bezel.

overall, i think you'll love it. there may be small details that aren't perfect, but overall, it's a great set.

enjoy the journey!
post #362 of 864
I only have composite cables connected to a DVR. The only items I should have in my active input source list is TV and AV1. Why is PC included as an active input source when no cables for it is connected. Is there something in the menu's where I can move PC to the inactive source list? BTW - I have a LN52B550.
post #363 of 864
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Originally Posted by plesiuk View Post

I only have composite cables connected to a DVR. The only items I should have in my active input source list is TV and AV1. Why is PC included as an active input source when no cables for it is connected. Is there something in the menu's where I can move PC to the inactive source list? BTW - I have a LN52B550.

What was discussed a few posts back was editing the "name" (which does more than just change the name) by pressing Source, then select the active source, and select Tools, Edit Name.
post #364 of 864
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Originally Posted by Zodiac180 View Post

I just bought a Sammy LN40B550 and have read through 12 pages of this thread but didn't find an answer to my problem. My issue is when I connect via my PC (512MB MSI HD4350) thru HDMI to the Sammy and set the Recommended Resolution to 1920x1080 the TV screen isn't completely fill. There are 1 inch black gaps in all 4 corners. The only option P-Size off the TV is 16:9 or 4:3 since I set the input name to "PC" like a member suggested earlier. I can't stretch the TV to full screen. If I set the screen resolution to 1680X1050 the TV screen gets completely filled. Any suggestion? Thanks.

This is a known problem with some cards, ATi/NVIDIA alike. The easy fix is in your Catalyst drivers (since you're on HD4350).

Somewhere in the Catalyst control panel (I forget where, and can't check right now) there is an option to set your overscan and underscan settings. I've had this problem with my HTPC and all I had to do was up the notches on the settings a bit to have it perfectly fit the screen on 1080 resolution.
post #365 of 864
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Originally Posted by Bill Mitchell View Post

That's the thought I had when I saw the 48Hz option in the service menu while calibrating my son's B550. I did notice that the TV's info box indicates 1080p/24 on a bluray source, where the A550 literature does not claim this capability. So it is likely it does 2:2 pulldown at 48Hz but I have not yet had a chance to use the new Stears & Munsil blu-ray test DVD to verify this.

Apparently it B550 does do 48Hz refresh for 24p material - motion is noticeably smoother for native 24 (generally 23.976) material.

I have noticed something with this mode though - for very bright full screen (like a bright white encompassing most of the screen) if you are very close you can notice a slight "wave" of slightly different brightness which moves down the screen.

My guess is that even though 60Hz is not truly a necessity for an LCD display - the CCFL backlight is likely being driven with 60 Hz and fluorescent lights actually will strobe at this frequency. When your refresh is out of sync with the CCFL strobe you will notice it (it is very slight so you only see in on large uniform brightly lit areas). I assume 72Hz refresh would pose the same problem.

Has anyone noticed anything similar with 120 or 240Hz refesh? The CCFL will be in sync at with the refresh in those cases although 2 or 4 refreshes happen for a single CCFL strobe.
post #366 of 864
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Originally Posted by Pureheart View Post

Not sure, but did you try other names in the source list? I use "DVI" and it seems to help. "DVI/PC" also works, but the picture isn't quite as good. Oddly, these "names" seem to make a big difference in picture and sound. Note: I also use an HDMI input, not DVI per se.

Yes, I tried every input options to no avail. If I used the other input options beside "PC" I get the option to "Stretch Wide" but the screen is overly stretched. I switched to HDMI2, HDMI3, or HDMI4 the screen does get filled fuller but I still don't have a full screen. It's about 1/2 inch gap in 4 corners now. Perhaps this is normal.

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Originally Posted by soulstar View Post

This is a known problem with some cards, ATi/NVIDIA alike. The easy fix is in your Catalyst drivers (since you're on HD4350).

Somewhere in the Catalyst control panel (I forget where, and can't check right now) there is an option to set your overscan and underscan settings. I've had this problem with my HTPC and all I had to do was up the notches on the settings a bit to have it perfectly fit the screen on 1080 resolution.

I didn't read your respond before posting above. I'll give your suggestion a try when I get home. Happy Thanksgiving too everyone.
post #367 of 864
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Originally Posted by Zodiac180 View Post

Yes, I tried every input options to no avail. If I used the other input options beside "PC" I get the option to "Stretch Wide" but the screen is overly stretched. I switched to HDMI2, HDMI3, or HDMI4 the screen does get filled fuller but I still don't have a full screen. It's about 1/2 inch gap in 4 corners now. Perhaps this is normal.



I didn't read your respond before posting above. I'll give your suggestion a try when I get home. Happy Thanksgiving too everyone.

I have my B550 connected to my media PC (HDMI) with ATI HD3850 card. The Catalyst driver does have a slider for UnderScan/Overscan. Putting the slider all the way to the right for me gives a 1:1 pixel mapping, ie a perfect fit on the screen and the fonts then look right too....

Also, if you want to use 24p mode, you should add the 1080p/24 mode in the driver (even though it already shows up when reading the EDID from the TV). When you force it from the driver, you will get 23Hz and 24Hz listed instead of just 24Hz. The 23 is actually 23.976 (the majority of Blu-Rays are encoded this way) and 24 is 24.000 (a few Blu-Rays).

If you use MediaPortal it can automatically change you refresh rate on the fly depending on the reported frame rate in the file you're watching.
post #368 of 864
Thanks everyone for your help, changing the scaling did resolved my problem. Anyway, the scaling option is buried in the Catalyst Control Panel. I can't post URL util I have 3 posts. I copied the direction to the scaling option:

To get to the ati scaling options do the following:

* Right click on the Desktop and open Catalyst Control Center 9.9
* Switch to Advanced mode if you are not there already
* Click dropdown menu Graphics in the top right
* Select Desktops and Displays
* Right Click your currently activated display under ‘Please Select a Display’ on the bottom right
* Select Configure
* Click on the Scaling Options tab and your there
* Now, just move the scale to the right (overscan) until you get full screen (in my case that was 0%)
post #369 of 864
costco has a 40" sammy on sale this weekend. can't tell the model # but the specs look like a 550.

anyone know if this is the 550 or is it a different model?

if so which model?
post #370 of 864
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Originally Posted by estoniankid View Post

costco has a 40" sammy on sale this weekend. can't tell the model # but the specs look like a 550.

anyone know if this is the 550 or is it a different model?

if so which model?

Sorry, the model you saw was a LN40B540, I saw the sale on the 40"-540 series, you can read the specs of the 540 here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...msung+ln40b540
I guess to be politically correct, your costco may have the 550 model, but when I searched online, and all of the stores where I'm located, ( I went to 3 of them ) they only show the 540 series set, the service dept told me the 550 series was not availavle, because that's the model I was serching for myself, so I had to find one elsewhere.

I found the 40B550 online for a great price ( bought it much cheaper than costco selling their inferrior 540 model ), picked one up for my dad, this will be his first lcd tv, and after spending all day with the set, it looks fantastic!, ESPN, Discovery HD theater, all look great.
I went back and forth between several models, but the LN40B550 was a great choice.
post #371 of 864
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Originally Posted by estoniankid View Post

costco has a 40" sammy on sale this weekend. can't tell the model # but the specs look like a 550.

anyone know if this is the 550 or is it a different model?

if so which model?

Costco carries the B540 at the same price point as other dealers sell the B530 - the differences are (as far as I can tell)

1) bezel of B530
2) feature set of B550 (extra HDMI, USB pics and music)
3) panel of B530 (all I have seen for 530 and 540 are CN01 panels). The version number is now on the box label on newer boxes.

The main difference I can see with the B550 is they seem to have Samsung panels (SQ01, SQ02, SQ03)
post #372 of 864
After playing with my setting on my 40B550, I can't get Just Scan to come up, it only shows 16:9, fit, stretch, wondering why it won't do Just scan? I've tried both component and HDMI cables.

I've noticed some similarities to set's that are a year and two years old, it's all about the Source, I was watching Jeopardy on NBC, and they use tinted colored backgrounds, so when I was watching it, it looked like there was flashlighting in the corners where there was not, when I shut off the HD cable box it's connected to, there is no lighting effects that show in the corners, I was watching the SD version of Caddy Shack on Versus, it looked good, of course it was not in HD, but with the settings turned down a-bit, I watched the entire movie, and enjoyed every bit of it! I know it's hard not to bring up imperfections, and I know everyone wants everything to be perfect, but it's not a perfect world. I bought a middle of the road set, not a top-dollar set, and I'm enjoying it.
post #373 of 864
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Originally Posted by TheaterChad View Post

After playing with my setting on my 40B550, I can't get Just Scan to come up, it only shows 16:9, fit, stretch, wondering why it won't do Just scan? I've tried both component and HDMI cables.

I've noticed some similarities to set's that are a year and two years old, it's all about the Source, I was watching Jeopardy on NBC, and they use tinted colored backgrounds, so when I was watching it, it looked like there was flashlighting in the corners where there was not, when I shut off the HD cable box it's connected to, there is no lighting effects that show in the corners, I was watching the SD version of Caddy Shack on Versus, it looked good, of course it was not in HD, but with the settings turned down a-bit, I watched the entire movie, and enjoyed every bit of it! I know it's hard not to bring up imperfections, and I know everyone wants everything to be perfect, but it's not a perfect world. I bought a middle of the road set, not a top-dollar set, and I'm enjoying it.

I think you need to ensure that your cable box is outputting 1080i or 1080p, and not 720p. Depending on the STB, it may be doing passthrough and outputting some stations in 720p.
post #374 of 864
Thanks Midnight,

I can't remember how to get into the set-up menu on my comcast cable box,

Something like pressing buttons in a sequense to get into the set-up.

Like, cable, menu, set-up, or something like that.

All I did was dissconnect the cable box to my Samsung 4669F which did allow just scan, and I connected my component and or HDMI to the 40B550 and just scan would not work. When I press info on the remote, it says 1080i,60.

I'll search for something about getting into the comcast set-up of the HD box. Thx.
post #375 of 864
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Originally Posted by TheaterChad View Post

Thanks Midnight,

I can't remember how to get into the set-up menu on my comcast cable box,

Something like pressing buttons in a sequense to get into the set-up.

Like, cable, menu, set-up, or something like that.

All I did was dissconnect the cable box to my Samsung 4669F which did allow just scan, and I connected my component and or HDMI to the 40B550 and just scan would not work. When I press info on the remote, it says 1080i,60.

I'll search for something about getting into the comcast set-up of the HD box. Thx.

It's called "Screen Fit" on the 40B550 and it should show up for 1080i and 1080p (and maybe even 720p)

Fromn the manual:

Screen Fit: Use the function to see the full image without any cutoff when HDMI (720p/1080i/1080p), Component
(1080i/1080p) or DTV (1080i) signals are input.
post #376 of 864
Thanks fellow Newfie
post #377 of 864
Hey all,

I came to this sub-forum because ... after a ton of research I have decided on the LN46B550 as my first flat screen HDTV.

Now here is the problem ... this model does not have an S-video input. You may ask "So what? S-video is so old-school." I currently run all of my video sources through a 4-port switch and then (via S-video) into my old CRT. If I buy this (or any other TV) that lacks an S-video input ... I will then be limited to (shudder) composite input for my vid sources.

What do you recommend for connecting non-HD sources to this TV?

Thanks ...
post #378 of 864
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Originally Posted by dud View Post

Hey all,

I came to this sub-forum because ... after a ton of research I have decided on the LN46B550 as my first flat screen HDTV.

Now here is the problem ... this model does not have an S-video input. You may ask "So what? S-video is so old-school." I currently run all of my video sources through a 4-port switch and then (via S-video) into my old CRT. If I buy this (or any other TV) that lacks an S-video input ... I will then be limited to (shudder) composite input for my vid sources.

What do you recommend for connecting non-HD sources to this TV?

Thanks ...

There is little in the way of HDTV equipment that has S-video anymore.

What old sources do you have with S-video?

Old Laserdisc and VHS both composite signal on the media so S-video buys you nothing unless the player's comb filter is better than the TV's (which I doubt these days).

A true S-VHS deck or old satellite/digital cable box is the only thing where you might get a benefit from s-video.

If your DVD player only has S-video then buy one with HDMI - they are very cheap nowadays.
post #379 of 864
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Originally Posted by samymesbah View Post

Costco carries the B540 at the same price point as other dealers sell the B530 - the differences are (as far as I can tell)

1) bezel of B530
2) feature set of B550 (extra HDMI, USB pics and music)
3) panel of B530 (all I have seen for 530 and 540 are CN01 panels). The version number is now on the box label on newer boxes.

The main difference I can see with the B550 is they seem to have Samsung panels (SQ01, SQ02, SQ03)

When I bought my 530 from sams club, the display model was version SS03. I then looked at all the boxes, and while most were version AA01, there were two with version SS03. I grabbed one of the SS03 models. Is this a samsung panel, or is it different than SQ?? Thanks.
post #380 of 864
Hi all --
I'm hoping someone with the LN40b550 can help me out. I'm seriously thinking of getting this set for my mother-in-law (bestbuy has it for $750). I'm a little concerned about sound. I'm not looking for anything spectacular and there's no way I can go with any kind of 5.1 system (or probably even a soundbar, it's a small space). I'm just want good clean sound, particularly for dialog (She sits about 7-8 feet away for the TV). So how do the stock speakers sound? Any help is much appreciated.
post #381 of 864
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Originally Posted by cram10 View Post

When I bought my 530 from sams club, the display model was version SS03. I then looked at all the boxes, and while most were version AA01, there were two with version SS03. I grabbed one of the SS03 models. Is this a samsung panel, or is it different than SQ?? Thanks.

The first S denotes a Samsung Panel - i don't know the difference between the SS and SQ panels? Does anyone know?
post #382 of 864
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Originally Posted by mightytoaster View Post

Hi all --
I'm hoping someone with the LN40b550 can help me out. I'm seriously thinking of getting this set for my mother-in-law (bestbuy has it for $750). I'm a little concerned about sound. I'm not looking for anything spectacular and there's no way I can go with any kind of 5.1 system (or probably even a soundbar, it's a small space). I'm just want good clean sound, particularly for dialog (She sits about 7-8 feet away for the TV). So how do the stock speakers sound? Any help is much appreciated.

I have this set in the bedroom and the sound is more than adequate for dialog. The tv is about 8 feet away and I usually have the volume at 35 for cable tv and 70 for movies, 100 being the maximum. There are a few sound options you can choose and the clear voice setting makes dialog very clear but make other sounds a little too thin. Why don't you check out the sound at BB before buying. It would give you an idea of how loud it can play. I also have the LNB460 in my home office (11 x 12 x 8 ) and I barley go over 25 on the volume for tv watching. Hope this helps.
post #383 of 864
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Originally Posted by mightytoaster View Post

Hi all --
I'm hoping someone with the LN40b550 can help me out. I'm seriously thinking of getting this set for my mother-in-law (bestbuy has it for $750). I'm a little concerned about sound. I'm not looking for anything spectacular and there's no way I can go with any kind of 5.1 system (or probably even a soundbar, it's a small space). I'm just want good clean sound, particularly for dialog (She sits about 7-8 feet away for the TV). So how do the stock speakers sound? Any help is much appreciated.

The stock speakers are well below average - that being said, we are using our B550 in the bedroom right now and the speakers are good enough for casual use...on the plus side the speakers keep the unit very thin and don't take up any space
post #384 of 864
A quick hello - my first post here.

The key seems to be, as others have said, to turn Sharpening way down, and Edge Enhancement off. I personally find sharpening artifacts very distracting. In fact, in the store, I was almost ready to dismiss all LCDs because of this, thinking that it was the technology creating these artifacts. Of course the cheaper models look worse, and that fed into my misconception.

Another key consideration, I found, when setting this up was actually the settings inside my DVD player. Its HDMI output resolution is configurable, and after some experimentation with 480p, 720p, and 1080i, I found 720p was the best. I guess having the upconversion task shared between the TV and the player is a "two heads are better than one" scenario. I'm sure that that arrangement is not good for lag time, but if so, it is not noticeable when DVD watching. I was unpleasantly surprised that Bitstream audio (needed for DTS) cannot be passed through from HDMI to the optical output - only PCM data can be passed. Oh well, just means I need more cables. Kinda wish I'd known that though, and then I would have just used Component from the DVD player.

HD sources over HDMI from my Rogers 4250HD box look fantastic, and the SD channels look great too once you turn the Sharpening down.

Even VHS sources over Composite look great - no problems.

I think I'll be adjusting the Backlight, Contrast and Brightness levels for some time to come, still not sure I have the optimal combination.

Love it!
post #385 of 864
I noticed that when watching something with a fairly bright background and a lot of movement I need to follow that there appears to be certain areas of the screen where the backlight is slightly dimmer than the rest of the screen. What is this called? Should I bother returning the set for one with an S panel?? I don't notice it most of the time, but when watching anything like a hockey game for instance my eyes are drawn to it.
post #386 of 864
Can I have the TV use an HDMI input for the video while using the 3.5mm audio input for audio? I'm trying to hook up a mac mini and might not have the right cables otherwise.
post #387 of 864
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Originally Posted by owendonk View Post

Can I have the TV use an HDMI input for the video while using the 3.5mm audio input for audio? I'm trying to hook up a mac mini and might not have the right cables otherwise.

You will need 3.5mm to 2 RCA.
post #388 of 864
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Originally Posted by AKBS View Post

Another key consideration, I found, when setting this up was actually the settings inside my DVD player. Its HDMI output resolution is configurable, and after some experimentation with 480p, 720p, and 1080i, I found 720p was the best.

I wonder if it is because your player does 1080i but not 1080p.
post #389 of 864
Can someone please confirm the ln52b550 has a swivel base? Thanks!
post #390 of 864
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Originally Posted by briansgi View Post

Can someone please confirm the ln52b550 has a swivel base? Thanks!

Yes it does.
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