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post #571 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post



Anyone see a carpet like this anywhere?


Brad

Brad, if you go to images.google.com you can drag and drop the jpeg into the search box, and google will search the web for it. Unfortunately, you'll be disappointed with the results. You'll get Jason's Blog, where it seems you found the image initially, and you'll get an animated gif on two different carpet websites, but none actually refers directly to that carpet (at least, nowhere I could find).

What is potentially of interest, however, is that google will also find visually similar images. This may not give you a good alternative, but it can't hurt to look.

Click here to skip dragging the image yourself, and go directly to the search results I generated. (not sure if the link will work, as it was generated while I was logged into my google account.) I think youcan add text to your search to refine the results. Visually similar image searching is new for google, and it's not terribly good, I'm afraid.

Hope that helps,

Fred
post #572 of 772
Thread Starter 
WOW guys.. thanks for the efforts!!

I had spent hrs searching.. commercial carpet.. casino carpet.. hotel carpet etc etc etc.. with no luck either.

Hopefulfred.. it seams to me that Jason (Jasons Blog) used an image from the other gifs you also found. his image is the exact ratio as the ones in the automated gifs (all the way down to the little yellow coffee cup pixel in the upper left of the image), so I doubt he took the pic. During my investigation I found the company that got the contract for Nokia flooring.. (something? Prince) but none of their products looked similar to the image. So I think Jason was a wild goose chase.
I sent emails to both carpet outlets last Thurs.. one responded they had no idea where the image came from, no word from the other.. last week was the first time I had ever played with the google image search.. its a neat tool to have in the bag.

DavidK.. you may be onto something, I had originally considered a black border with an insert due to some of the issues installers have lining up patterened wool carpets. Using a rug would probably give the same look and allow changes as desired.. definatley something to think about.

This is one of those situations where I wish I had never ran across that image becasue now nothing else seems like the right fit..

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Originally Posted by DavidK442 View Post

Any chance you could step up the progress a little?

ummm......wellll....uhhhh....umm..
post #573 of 772
www.stantoncarpet.com

Check out their polypropylene carpets. Stanton bought Royal Dutch, and the "Royalton" stuff is what I'm specifically pointing you towards. They're typically under $5 a sqft and polypropylene is nearly impossible to stain. They feel like a million point area rug and I doubt you'll be disappointed. To do a room with the stuff will look very expensive, but really won't be all that bad.
post #574 of 772
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

Movies by Christmas hopefully

^^^^^^^^^
Quote from my overzealous post on July 25th.

Here's what I've accomplished in the last month...... I can actually see a light at the end of the tunnel for the room construction, the pieces are coming together a little quicker now..


Finished ~ 400 more ft of misc stuff... this completes ~ 95% of what Ill need to finish (thank goodness, getting tired of sanding / finishing...)


Trimmed out the fabric panels for one side wall. I ended up using the same 1 1/2" half round that I used for the soffit face rather than a panel profile.
Note the height of the fabric panels was dictated by the width of the 701 roll.. I've wasted very little fabric for my 15 panels so far.


In this shot you can see the top and bottom supports for the sconce.


Panel in place


Staple and cut fabric for wiring.


The sconces I chose were originally wired for a wall plug and foot switch.
So I cut off the plug, pulled out the wiring, punched a hole in the rear plate and stuck in a grommet for direct wiring



First sconce hung.


I also finished off where the wall meets the soffit around the room.

I've been playing around with a faux paint on paintable wall paper trying to make it look like a copper/bronze with a pantina..gettin close to something usable, but worse case Ill finish the bottom of the soffit with black 701.

Heres one wall, (short the Bling) Like everyone else.. the pictures I take dont do the room justice..(I suck at taking pics and Im tired of messing around with camera settings.. ill wait until the room is done and then get someone who knows what their doing to come in and take decent pics)





and then this crash landed in my garage on Monday..


If I'm watching movies by christmas it'll be on lawn chairs without carpet in the room

Im really hung up on the direction to go with the carpet and chairs... red carpet/black chairs.... black carpet/ red chairs.. black on black...

I've gotten a few sample of different reds for the carpet.. but they all seem to clash with the reddish color on the walls..

@ thegeek.. Ive requested a few samples from stanton ... well see what they look like when they arrive.. thanks for the tip.

Ill post a few more pics of the whole room after the remaining panels are trimmed and the rest of the sconces hung on the other wall..

Brad
post #575 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

Im really hung up on the direction to go with the carpet and chairs... red carpet/black chairs.... black carpet/ red chairs.. black on black...

I've gotten a few sample of different reds for the carpet.. but they all seem to clash with the reddish color on the walls..

My wood is stained a very similar color to yours. I had a hard time with carpet too. I wanted a red based carpet. At first I wanted something with a pattern (additional colors of gold/black/etc), but after picking my walls I knew that would be too busy. So I wanted a solid red carpet. It was hard to find the right red, most were way off.

What I ended up doing is putting a black border around my room that ties into the stage (same carpet as the stage). The border is about 2 feet (I can measure if you want to know for sure). The black border really goes well with the reddish stain color. If you're interested I'll try to look up the brand and color of the carpet I used.

Good luck, the room is looking awesome.
post #576 of 772
How about a super dark gray carpet with black accents, maybe a splash of red in it if you wish...then black chairs. Not a fan of red chairs especially against ALL that nice wood work in there. I think it would be too much, just my opinion though.
post #577 of 772
i am humbled by your skilllllll....an i can not even cut a 2x4 straight...
post #578 of 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

^^^^^^^^^

Im really hung up on the direction to go with the carpet and chairs... red carpet/black chairs.... black carpet/ red chairs.. black on black...

I've gotten a few sample of different reds for the carpet.. but they all seem to clash with the reddish color on the walls..

@ thegeek.. Ive requested a few samples from stanton ... well see what they look like when they arrive.. thanks for the tip.

Ill post a few more pics of the whole room after the remaining panels are trimmed and the rest of the sconces hung on the other wall..

Brad

Definitely black chairs. I think red chairs would look kind of gaudy in the beautiful, classy space you've created.

For carpet, I would be looking at something black or dark grey with some pattern or texture in the weave. Have you looked at damelon's thread ("Making the 'Bacon Race' Theater")? He has been agonizing over carpet and he and BigmouthinDC have posted a bunch of photos of different options. You might be able to take advantage of their research. For example, check out post 708: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...350179&page=24
post #579 of 772
Brad,

I actually had a sample of my carpet, it's from Floors To Go. Style is "Ashby Drive", color is "841 Persia Sweet". I can't find the exact carpet on their web site, this is the closest I could find Creative Elegance - Show Star - Cherrywood.

I actually like the pattern in the Show Star better than the pattern I have. The same "tone on tone" pattern gives the carpet some style, while not being overbearing. It allows the walls and screen to dominate, while giving you a nice base for black chairs.
post #580 of 772
+1 on the black chairs.
post #581 of 772
I also agree on black chairs. By the way, what happened to the translucent panels next to the lions? It looks like those are covered in fabric now.
post #582 of 772
Another vote for black chairs. I think most definitely that red chairs would not "fit" your room. Excellent progress the sconces (as does the rest of the room) looks great! As for carpet, if you go all black prepare for it to show everything and anything. I would go with a grey/charcoal color that has some type of pattern and "color specks" to break it up. Good luck.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #583 of 772
Wow.... wow.... I'm speachless at your skill and ability! Amazing! I sub'd this threat, and give a thumbs up Like for you and your efforts. simply amazing!

WOW! All i can say is I suck beyond belief..LOL WoW!

-P
post #584 of 772
Absolutely gorgeous woodwork. It's going to be a beautiful theater!
post #585 of 772
Good god man, finally... been checking back here ever day for months waiting for an update

Absolutely fabulous work. Really classy.

I like ejhuzy's suggestion for the carpet -- install a black boarder carpet and then inlay a red carpet in the middle then deck with black chairs.
post #586 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post


Sorry if I missed this in a previous post, but was wondering if you can describe what you did with the 703 in this picture. How did you come by that pattern?

Thanks.
post #587 of 772
Thread Starter 
Thank you gentlemen, the feedback is greatly appreciated (and Motivating)

I feel Im getting really close now... I may not be 100% by my deadline of this Christmas, but I'm happy where I am now that the pieces are coming together quicker.

For the carpet it looks like Ill be going with.....Drum roll Please....
black border and red inset... Actually it will probably be a Maroonish color.. ill should be able to find something that gets close to the wall color without clashing with the black border between the inset and the wall.

I agree with everyone that red chairs may look a little Gaudy.. but sometimes you gotta run an idea up the flag pole, and this is a great place for honest feedback. Now Ill just need to decide on a chair style..

EJ.. thanks for re posting the link to your theater, I hadn't noticed at the time how you did the carpet in your room. (too busy looking at your bar)

Sometimes its hard to visualize and It helps tremendously to see an actual picture of a concept, after re examining your theater the deal was sealed.

I was originally looking at patterned wool carpets and a friend of mine (owns a carpet store) also recommend the border also to avoid the issues that sometimes arise when trying to seam the patterned carpets. I should be able to run 12' width and leave ~ 2'9" for a border on each side.


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Originally Posted by dwightp View Post

Have you looked at damelon's thread ("Making the 'Bacon Race' Theater")?

Oh Yea!! and it makes me wanna jump out my basement window when I think about how fast those 2 have built that theater.. you can tell its not their first rodeo..

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Originally Posted by stockmonkey2000 View Post

I also agree on black chairs. By the way, what happened to the translucent panels next to the lions? It looks like those are covered in fabric now.

The stained glass looked good against the blonde unfinished wood, however once everything went red the colors didn't blend well..

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Originally Posted by damelon View Post

Absolutely gorgeous woodwork. It's going to be a beautiful theater!

Back at ya Damelon.. Your room is fantastic and the Blazing fast timeline you guys have been on highlights the accomplishment even more.

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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

Good god man, finally... been checking back here ever day for months waiting for an update

Moggie.. Thanks Man!!.. Although I wasn't able to keep pace with your build, You've pretty much stuck with me for the entire endeavour.. and through several change of seasons

Your theater has definitely raised the bar, and provided a pinnacle for my aspirations.

I must admit... the speed of my progress increased exponentially once I hung the sign......



"What would Moggie Do"

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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Sorry if I missed this in a previous post, but was wondering if you can describe what you did with the 703 in this picture. How did you come by that pattern?

Thanks.

The product you see in that photo is sold by Quest Acoustical Interiors under the name of "Perfsorber". Its a hybrid absorber/diffuser that was recommended by Dennis Erskine.

Regarding the pattern, it is my "belief" that the science for the design of the persorber has it's "roots" in the work of D' Antiono and Cox. Their concept used a maximum length sequence to generate a binary pattern. The resulting Binary sequence with 1's representing reflective regions and 0's representing absorptive regions, will act as a diffuser by varying the phase of the reflected wave. This concept was realized in a product called a "Bad Panel" (binary amplitude diffuser) patented by RPG. The Bad panel was simply a hard faced reflective panel (think 1/8 inch masonite) with holes puched in the appropriate pattern, that allows a portion of the sound wave to reach the absorptive material behind the panel thus providing broadband diffusion. Kinects also sells a similar product called a "Tad Panel"

An interesting DIY application of this concept can be seen on the ceiling in this build.. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post21019737

I believe the perfsorber product would be considered a ternary diffuser. it also uses a random binary sequence, however the construction employs the technique of using two absorptive sheets rotated 180 degress out of phase with ~ 15 mil membrane between them. The resulting effect creates a pattern that can be represented by -1,0,+1, as compared to the binary design with is represented by 0,1.

the below graph shows the test data from Quest



Compared with test data from RPG's "Bad" panel


Notice the significant improved scattering with the quest product.

Another benefit of the flat panel diffusers is that they dont require as much realestate (depth) as other types such as the quad type diffusers.

Just kind of a brief overview, If you do a search for pat number 7314114 you'll find more information for a design "SIMILAR" to the perfsorber, or search for binary amplitude diffusion for a more indepth explanation of the basic concept.


Thanks again guys

Brad
post #588 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

EJ.. thanks for re posting the link to your theater, I hadn't noticed at the time how you did the carpet in your room. (too busy looking at your bar)

Sometimes its hard to visualize and It helps tremendously to see an actual picture of a concept, after re examining your theater the deal was sealed.

I was originally looking at patterned wool carpets and a friend of mine (owns a carpet store) also recommend the border also to avoid the issues that sometimes arise when trying to seam the patterned carpets. I should be able to run 12' width and leave ~ 2'9" for a border on each side.

Brad,

Glad I could help. I think the black border and red inset will be perfect for your room (I may be a little biased though ). Just for kicks I went and checked my room and my black border is about 2' 1" around the room.

Good luck finding a red that meets your needs. That was the hardest part of my carpet search. Getting a red that matched my walls.
post #589 of 772
Sweet progress. The lighting turned out awesome (as everything seems to do with your golden touch). This will truly be a masterpiece once everything is done.
post #590 of 772
Brad,

Your latest update is absolutely fantastic. Where can I purchase a ticket to see a premier when you unveil this beauty ?
post #591 of 772
The detail and quality of the woodwork is simply amazing !!
post #592 of 772
Thanks for the write up on the Perfsorber. Do you have any initial thoughts on how the room sounds with them up?
post #593 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

"What would Moggie Do"

What would I do? Think of a better acronym for the sign:
"Wonderful Wife Makes Decision"

So when is the carpet install planned?
post #594 of 772
Everything looks outstanding, looking forward to the next steps.

I tend towards more subdued color and pattern, so I would be concerned that more red in the room could detract from the great woodworking standing out.
post #595 of 772
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Brad,

Your latest update is absolutely fantastic. Where can I purchase a ticket to see a premier when you unveil this beauty ?

~4hr Dr from Chicago, your welcome anytime.

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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Thanks for the write up on the Perfsorber. Do you have any initial thoughts on how the room sounds with them up?

I've only had a temp hookup back when the IB was initially installed, all I can say about that was it was loud and sounded bad in a drywall shell.. Hopefully I can install and test the real equip within the next month.

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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

What would I do? Think of a better acronym for the sign:
"Wonderful Wife Makes Decision"

So when is the carpet install planned?

LOL.. Wisdom beyond your years.

Hopefully end of Nov or sooner for carpet.. still need to do the capitols, fluting, bases etc...ref: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post19513016


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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Everything looks outstanding, looking forward to the next steps.

I tend towards more subdued color and pattern, so I would be concerned that more red in the room could detract from the great woodworking standing out.

Kinda why I discounted a Grey carpet, wanted to keep the color palette to a min. Im going to search for a "solid" red/maroon that's close to the wood, maybe towards the darker side.
post #596 of 772
YOU need to get a utube video up; an take a tour.
post #597 of 772
Thread Starter 
VIDEO.. Slow your roll.. I kinda thought that picking up tools and sweeping the floor before my next update would be an improvement
post #598 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

VIDEO.. Slow your roll.. I kinda thought that picking up tools and sweeping the floor before my next update would be an improvement


I'm with ya, figuratively and literally. After so long of using the basement as a war er ah I mean construction zone as well as misc. storage for just about everything I consider it a MAJOR step/accomplishment just to get everything cleaned up and to a point where it really looks like a room.

I am still amazed at the incredible wood work in your build, simply stunning. Those sconces are really impressive and have a great "feel" to them, very nice.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #599 of 772
Thread Starter 
Carpet Ordered!
post #600 of 772
Awesome! Looking forward to the end result.
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