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post #631 of 772
Wow, simply stunning. Everything is looking fantastic. Can't wait to see some more pics of your endeavor. Well done.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #632 of 772
Thread Starter 
Ill get more pics as soon as I get a little more time with the camera..

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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

Very cool Brad! I really like the black edging on the carpet -- it works perfectly. So what movie did you watch?

The boys and I wanted to see "300", the wife wanted to watch "Avatar", so we were out voted 1 to 3.... Avatar it was...
post #633 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

The boys and I wanted to see "300", the wife wanted to watch "Avatar", so we were out voted 1 to 3.... Avatar it was...

lol. That is the universal truth, mars and venus kind of stuff... and why I'm always watch "my" movies by myself.
post #634 of 772
What? Avatar is a great movie.......300 is better but, er well ah I understand totally. Women...sheesh!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #635 of 772


That looks fantastic! I'm so glad that you're in there and watching movies now! YEAH!
post #636 of 772
I am a new member and have just started to build my theatre room but after seeing yours I just want to quit! I think mine will look like the "dollar store" version compared to yours! You have some incredible skill!
post #637 of 772
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Originally Posted by rockjock75 View Post

I am a new member and have just started to build my theatre room but after seeing yours I just want to quit! I think mine will look like the "dollar store" version compared to yours! You have some incredible skill!

Hello and welcome.

First let me say you need not feel that way. There are many different skill sets, experience levels, and budgets here. That is what makes AVS such a great resource. I feel your pain though as looking at Brad's theater makes my own building skills quite pedestrian for sure. But like I said that is what it is all about.

I would encourage you to start a build thread to share your journey and to solicit advise from the wealth of information here.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #638 of 772
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Hello and welcome.

First let me say you need not feel that way. There are many different skill sets, experience levels, and budgets here. That is what makes AVS such a great resource. I feel your pain though as looking at Brad's theater makes my own building skills quite pedestrian for sure. But like I said that is what it is all about.

I would encourage you to start a build thread to share your journey and to solicit advise from the wealth of information here.

Regards,

RTROSE

Thanks for the welcome. Brad's skill are pretty awesome.

I like you suggestion about starting a thread about my journey. As I have already seen I can get lots of feed back and help on here. Plus maybe somebody can learn from me or more to the point, learn from my mistakes!
post #639 of 772
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Originally Posted by rockjock75 View Post

I am a new member and have just started to build my theatre room but after seeing yours I just want to quit! I think mine will look like the "dollar store" version compared to yours! You have some incredible skill!

Hehehe, take a look at mine (my living room). I might have some good gear, but its been a long journey to get it. Otherwise its just furniture and paint on the walls......

Audio is a journey of a lifetime .

P.S. I started with a HTIAB Sony setup. My first "real" step into audio was a pair of Polk Monitor 60's, a Polk CS2 Center, Polk Monitor 40 surrounds and that same Sony receiver.

I have put in lots more cash since then but its been 3 years as well. Everyones got to start somewhere....
post #640 of 772
P-H-E-NOMINAL! Very unique and seems like a special room. Congrats Brad.

In the pic below, your black border carpet looks like it laps over the patterned carpet; is that so?

post #641 of 772
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the comments guys, its much appreciated.

I actually enjoyed Avatar more than 300, the visuals were superior. I also enjoyed it far more this time around than when we saw in the multiplex.

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Originally Posted by rockjock75 View Post

I am a new member and have just started to build my theatre room but after seeing yours I just want to quit! I think mine will look like the "dollar store" version compared to yours! You have some incredible skill!

Welcome Rock, actually it was only about 10% skill, 60% time and 80% money... wait... thats 150%... still seems right though. Like RT said, start a thread and you'll get all the advice/help you need from the forum.

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Originally Posted by EndersShadow View Post

Snip...

P.S. I started with a HTIAB Sony setup. My first "real" step into audio was a pair of Polk Monitor 60's, a Polk CS2 Center, Polk Monitor 40 surrounds and that same Sony receiver.

I have put in lots more cash since then but its been 3 years as well. Everyones got to start somewhere....

I know it's continuously echoed on the forum, but I would like to reinforce the importance of soundproofing, based on my personal experience, for people just beginning their journey.

Like many I spent 10's of thousands of $$$ on equip over the decades and inevitability was disappointed once things were home and set up. When I started my theater, I dont think I had ever been in a room that had been purposed built for either music or video. (even the demo rooms at your local equip dealer don't stack up) After finding AVS and reading the input from the pro's and the experiences of others, I basically took a leap of faith, and did as much as I could for sound proofing.

Over the last couple of weeks, I've been able to experience the difference it makes, I never realized what I was missing before, I had never heard alot of the nuances that are present in both both music and movies.

Roughly I figure the total cost for lumber/dwall/ Green Glue was ~ < 5k to build a room within a room with 2 dampening layers (OSB,GG,Dwall,GG). So say roughly a 3500 bump over costs for building a standard framed room.

This 3500 "investment" did more for the quality of the reproduction than any piece of equipment I had ever bought. Combine this with professionally designed room layout and treatments (available at ~ $600), and you have a winning combo, at a price point far less than even a mid range system. So keep your HTIB for now and put you money in the room... you'll be amazed.


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Originally Posted by misugrad View Post

P-H-E-NOMINAL! Very unique and seems like a special room. Congrats Brad.

In the pic below, your black border carpet looks like it laps over the patterned carpet; is that so?

Thanks Mike. I saw exactly what your seeing when I posted the pic. not sure why it looks that way, I think it was because of the way I vacuumed it or something.

I had spent a lot of time finding the "right" black with the same/similar cut as the center insert. Here's a close up of that same area



I think the guys did a heck of a job, especially considering the pile of the carpet.
post #642 of 772
how did they get all the cuts the same? I assume that is something manually cut on site, right?
post #643 of 772
Amazing job Brad. You're a humble fellow, but we all are in awe of your vision and the skills needed to bring it.

Glad you're happy with the soundproofing
post #644 of 772
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by smakovits View Post

how did they get all the cuts the same? I assume that is something manually cut on site, right?

I cut a template from a piece of luaun that they used to cut one part of the radii(dont remember if he cut the black or burgandy first) then he overlayed this to cut the matching piece, and repeated for each corner.

you should have seen him roll his eyes when I told him what I wanted originally....


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Originally Posted by Ted White View Post

Amazing job Brad. You're a humble fellow, but we all are in awe of your vision and the skills needed to bring it.

Glad you're happy with the soundproofing

Thank you Ted, and I greatly appreciate the assistance from you and John over the last couple of years....
post #645 of 772
I have been following for about a year and this is really incredible Brad. Very inspirational. Well done sir!
post #646 of 772
Brad,

I'm late to applaud you on this EXCELLENT THEATER.
Clearly a stunning result.

Any chance we will see this in any of the publications, because it is more than worthy !
post #647 of 772
Brad,

Awesome job! I just noticed you finished. Don't know how I missed it. I really like how the carpet came out too. Very cool!

jim
post #648 of 772
Very unique and amazing theater, I love all the woodwork!
post #649 of 772
Thread Starter 
Thanks Guys, Im waiting on another lens and trying to figure out the camera to get some better room shots.

The QSC DSP322ua showed up on Friday and I installed it in the rack.

For Christmas, Im giving myself a visit from one of DE's guys. He will visit for a couple of days next week to EQ everything, set the room curves,etc.. I was really torn about jumping off of the DIY bandwagon on this, and although I enjoy the tweaking and fiddling, he will accomplish in 2 days what would have taken me several months with lesser results. After nearly 3 years I really want to start enjoying the theater to its fullest.

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Originally Posted by jimim View Post

Brad,

Awesome job! I just noticed you finished. Don't know how I missed it. I really like how the carpet came out too. Very cool!

jim

I'm really not done done, but close enough to meet my commitment to the family for "Movies by Christmas".

Several large items on the to-do list:
I have plenty of room to move the seats forward or backwards, once we start tuning the room, the placement can be selected based on the best response.

Once the seat placement is finalized Ill be able to see exactly how much room I have to the rear wall and then I can decide on a small riser and a couple more seats or a bar and bar stools, or nothing..etc. My concern has always been the seats for "us" and I was never trying to squeeze in alot of seating for overflow.

I still have the front of the hush box and the ceiling to complete. Ill build the ceiling feature finished in sections and then just carry into the room and mount completed without disrupting anything in the room. I have power ran there already and Im toying with the idea of an led/fiber combo for a star ceiling insert. similar to Isky star ceiling panels, or I may just build something unique.

I also just ordered my perimeter seals and automatic door bottom for the entry.


I did take pictures of one of the room features that Im very happy with:


The entrance to the Equipment room...



my kids think the hidden door is really cool..
post #650 of 772
The "craft room" has turned out EXCELLENT! I wish you and the family a lifetime of joy. Thanks for your tedious documentation here as well. You are certainly an asset to the community.

You know, there's no appropriate place on the forum for the continuation of all our hard work. So many threads go through an incredible build process only to die off once completed. We never document the real purpose of our theaters. I hope you will consider at least a report every once in awhile commenting on the use of the room. It would be interesting to hear, over time, which things worked better or not than planned for.
post #651 of 772
As a new member to the community and your new neighbor(moved to Indiana in March 2011), I had to stop by and say that I love your theater! The work you have done is Amazing! I'm actually having a house built right now and hopefully will be closing at the end of the month. I can't wait until I can actually start on my build. Great job and enjoy.
post #652 of 772
Good choice to bring a pro in for the EQ. You've earned it.
post #653 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

The QSC DSP322ua showed up on Friday and I installed it in the rack.

For Christmas, Im giving myself a visit from one of DE's guys. He will visit for a couple of days next week to EQ everything, set the room curves,etc..

Brad, I assume from the QSC purchase that you are putting all channels through the EQ? Does that mean you are not using the Anthem ARC room correction? I'd be very curious to hear about the process the experts go through. Be sure to watch carefully and report back

BTW I looked at your initial rendering in your first post and must they that you went of the tracks somewhere along the build and thank goodness you did. Incredible looking result. You are going to have fun showing it off to all the Christmas guests.
post #654 of 772
Thread Starter 
Tony / DavidK...

I have a whole basement left to finish, including a bar that I plan to build in a similar "ornate/wood" style as the theater, and the kids are already pushing for the bathroom so they dont have to go upstairs when their in the basement. (Am I the only one that pees in the sump pit here? ) If people are interested Ill keep the thread going.

Over the last year I've thought about what I would have done different on a regular basis. Ill write something up soon, I think your right people can benefit from our collective experiences.

Torrmar...

Welcome to the neighborhood, I'm ~ 20 min up I69 from Fishers. Took a peek at your build thread, you'll have a very nice space to work with. Along the lines of "what I would do differently", I would honestly recommend that you not drive a nail or purchase a single piece of equipment until you have a "Complete" start to finish "detailed" plan for your theater. This single piece of advice would have saved me a significant amount of both time and money.

Dave...

I'm oddly excited about Adam coming to tune everything.. not to mention it got me out of going to the in laws for Christmas.

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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

Brad, I assume from the QSC purchase that you are putting all channels through the EQ? Does that mean you are not using the Anthem ARC room correction? I'd be very curious to hear about the process the experts go through. Be sure to watch carefully and report back

BTW I looked at your initial rendering in your first post and must they that you went of the tracks somewhere along the build and thank goodness you did. Incredible looking result. You are going to have fun showing it off to all the Christmas guests.

Yup.. I fell off track a little.. mostly due to the lack of a plan initially and just rolling with it..that and the beer..

I'll be watching very closely.. my curiosity continues to build the more I play with the system and ARC-1 has me a little baffled with what it does.

I've ran ARC several times in its standard mode, The standard mode makes all decisions for you, your only task is moving the mic to a min of 5 positions separated by at least 2 feet..the ARC averages these points to make its "Decision" accordingly.

I've repeated this with the 5 points centralized around the 2 center seats and with them spread around the entire seating area, at listening position and in front then behind.. all of these positioning scenarios appear to have little impact on the settings ARC wants to make... I'm guessing its because of the averaging. just for kicks I was going to run it with the Mic at the same position (my seat) for the 5 tests to see how it impacts the automagic settings.

I honestly dont care for the results from ARC so far, and prefer the basic set up that I had originally put in the processor. ARC also didn't seem to play well when using both sub outputs for the IB.. and I ended up running one output to the EP and changed the dip switches from stereo to parallel mode, until I can get a "Y" XLR to feed the 2 channels in the BFD from a single output.

I've only started playing with the advanced mode in ARC the last couple of days. In the advanced mode you can force the room gain, cross overs, response cutoff etc..

This is all for Nil at this point, with Adam coming but it is good clean fun..

If I get ambitious this weekend I may run REW and we'll be able to compare the differences in the results from ARC and and what Adam does with the DSP.

On a side note.. i can say i have not seen any movement in the screen from the IB's but as you mentioned previously you can see a "little" in the 701 around the screen.. probably just the difference in tension of the material.
post #655 of 772
Congrats on finishing. Your not too far from me either, my sister is up in Anderson which is right around where you seem to be located.

Enjoy getting the EQ dialed in, thats when in all that accoustic works pays off.

One day I will have one of these threads, until then I just have to keep doing what I can about my room as I move from apartment to apartment (within the WAF limits of course )
post #656 of 772
Congrats on finishing Brad! I have been in awe of your woodworking along the way. The results are incredible. Hope you relax and enjoy for a while.
One of DE's guys paying you a visit should be a very nice X-mas present.
post #657 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

If I get ambitious this weekend I may run REW and we'll be able to compare the differences in the results from ARC and and what Adam does with the DSP.

I for one would be very interested in the differences. I've been toying with the idea of running my LCR channels through an EQ and doing it manually. Audessey MultiEQ didn't wow me either although I do like the DSX wide speakers.

Merry Christmas.
post #658 of 772
Have you noticed any sag issues with the way you mounted the IB subs up front now that they have been in for a little while? I'm looking at doing a similar setup and mounting them the way you have yours would work out best for me. I didn't notice but did you end up adding in additional bracing for the boxes?
post #659 of 772
Vanice - you should start a build thread if you are thinking about an IB sub. Even if you are in the planning stages it would be a good time to start. We need more IB subs here.

The FI drivers are very stiff and doubt they would sag much. Even if they did, KNKKNK has so much headroom that even if he lost half the output he'd still likely never use everything he has left.
post #660 of 772
Planning to here shortly. Construction will start next week so I guess I had better get on it. Need to leave plenty of time for people to improve my design.
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