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post #691 of 772
Brad, you describe a painful experience that I may be about to endure. On a positive note, your fantastic wood working skills headed out west with you so I'm looking forward to 2.0 as well.
post #692 of 772
I just read the whole thread, my heart almost stop when you said you had to sell the house.
The amount and quality of work was phenomenal. It's definitely amongst my favorites build, I wish you luck with version 2.0.
post #693 of 772
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Originally Posted by Red Devil 24 View Post

I just read the whole thread, my heart almost stop when you said you had to sell the house.
The amount and quality of work was phenomenal. It's definitely amongst my favorites build, I wish you luck with version 2.0.
Thought I was looking at a relocation myself...appears to have been narrowly averted!
post #694 of 772
I'm so sorry you had to leave that room and all your craftmanship and hard work behind.

When I sold a house, I had someone try to pull that crap on me as well. It didn't work. When I was presented the counter offer, I read their realtor (and A/V dude) the riot act, refused the counter and told them to look for a different house. They bought the house at the full listed price and terms (theater, no equipment). smile.gif
post #695 of 772
Great theater.
post #696 of 772
Thread Starter 
First post towards the "NEW" Build.

Before ever driving a nail:

Pay soil Engineer $1200 to look at my dirt!! rolleyes.gif
Pay pad dude $3900 to remove 18" of dirt and then put same dirt back in,,,, wetting it as he went (like it had never rained here in 20 years)
Pay soil engineer another $700 for a certification that said pad guy did it per reccomendations !! mad.gif

Mud and Wood ... Passed strap and shear.. getting ready for rough in now




Theater Room


Building is 25 x50 - 10 ft plate.
Theater room ended up being 15'4" x 26' inside stud to stud
Additional Garage/Shop is ~ 24 x 24 (looking foward to eliminating the zillion trips up and down the stairs)
Building also has a pool bar and patio ( since i dont have a pool yet i guess its just a bar for now wink.gif )
I had a 400 amp service on the house so I pulled another 200 amp to the building and am putting in a 3 Ton Heat Pump.

It'll be a couple months probably before I get to the actual room.

General room construction will be clips / channel / 5/8 OSB / GG / 5/8 DW

General thoughts on layout from front to back(too busy to draw it up yet)

3ft for IB
3ft for screen wall
10Ft to front row:3 seats in front (probably 10FT 2:37)
7ft for second row on riser: 4 seats second row
Couple feet clear space from second row to back wall

Again these are only rough and all subject to change, and I have not idea about what the aesthetics/look/feel of the room will be yet.

Its like an oven in Phoenix already, I sure miss the Indiana summers.....:cool.gif

Brad
post #697 of 772
[subscribed -- for a second time]

Definitely looking forward to watching your new build Brad. Glad you have your priorities right ;-)

- Paul.
post #698 of 772
the name of the thread might have to change to yes dear I am planting your vegetable garden! or yes dear I am cutting the grass, wait that might not work where you are living now.redface.gif
post #699 of 772
First theater is "Yes Dear, I'm down here working on your craft room!! Second theater is "Don't bother me, I'm trying to finish my theater!!" tongue.gif

Really looking forward to following this one (again!)...
post #700 of 772
Good luck with the build, Brad. I'm subd and looking forward to the woodwork.
post #701 of 772
Looking foward to this. Subscribed!
post #702 of 772
Awesome!! Looking forward to watching this again Brad!
post #703 of 772
Going to be awesome, now you get to put everything you learned on the first to good usage and a clean sheet design.
post #704 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post


Its like an oven in Phoenix already, I sure miss the Indiana summers.....:cool.gif

Brad

HUH??!?!?!?

*looks at his portrait... *

Hmmm says that you are in Indiana... I guess one needs to change that to Valley of the Sun eh? smile.gif

WELCOME TO THE OVEN!!! smile.gif

Jzc

P.S. Yep.. I am also in the oven too. smile.gif As in Phoenix area. smile.gif
post #705 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

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Pay soil Engineer $1200 to look at my dirt!! rolleyes.gif
...

At least you didn't have to pay a crew $29,000 to get two (2) 100' borings so you could send subterranean dirt to the lab before they'd give you a building permit! Sheesh...

Looks great. I built mine from scratch too but had more constraints with trees I wanted to keep, etc.
post #706 of 772
Thread Starter 
Thanks Guys.. Glad to see so many of ya'll still around, and I thank everyone In advance for your forthcoming patience while I fumble through this cool.gif
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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

[subscribed -- for a second time]

Definitely looking forward to watching your new build Brad. Glad you have your priorities right ;-)

- Paul.

Hey Buddy, Theater, bar, Workshop... How could I go wrong with that Quinella.

Regarding the Thread Title: I thought about starting a new thread with a new title, but then figured the entire endevour is still just one mans saga for a quiet spot to watch a movie.wink.gif

The main difference between this build and the last one is that although my lovely bride never got her craft room, she is 100% behind this build, the entire family was spoiled by the last theater and everyone misses it terribly.
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Originally Posted by design1stcode2nd View Post

Going to be awesome, now you get to put everything you learned on the first to good usage and a clean sheet design.

Funny you mention that. after spending some more time on the forum lately I find those same feelings of trepidation that were so familiar during the last build. Although I will definitely be able to avoid some previous pitfalls - first and foremost the HVAC which caused a very long and painful rework process in the first build.

Now Im second guessing the Hat and channel, and wondering if I should just go with a Room in a Room again. I think the costs would be close to a wash.
Pros:
Familiarity, Better Sound Isolation, Less chance of the IB knocking stucco off the outside of the building

Cons:
Takes another ~ 9" off room width (although I think I could live with this since I only plan 3 seats for the front row.

Ceiling height: I could span the ~ 15 foot with 2x6's and only loose about 7" off of the 10' plate height, but I have seen someones theater lately that had a "Tall Riser" it went ~ 3/4 of the way up the back of the front row seats.. It gave the room a very cool look. ( i cant find it again, so if this rings a bell with anyone please post a link) So things could become a little cramped once the soffit is in with a really tall riser.

One option may be clips supporting the top of the interior walls then clips and channel on the ceiling... probably a good time to bug Ted and John again for their input.. Either way I definitely need to start getting stuff on paper...



Jzc.. I lived here for 20 year before.. I just forgot how F*&^*^*G Hot it gets. eek.gif

Erkq So true.. Its amazing the number of CYA ways the municipalities find to get in your pocket...


As always comments and suggestions are welcome!!

Thanks again guys..

Brad
post #707 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

Now Im second guessing the Hat and channel, and wondering if I should just go with a Room in a Room again. I think the costs would be close to a wash.
Pros:
Familiarity, Better Sound Isolation, Less chance of the IB knocking stucco off the outside of the building

Cons:
Takes another ~ 9" off room width (although I think I could live with this since I only plan 3 seats for the front row.

Brad, because this looks like a separate building I'd go with the channel in order to keep the width. I have a 15' wide room and I ideally I would have liked another foot or so. It really depends on the seats you use, but if you go with the big boys 14'3" (less treatment) is getting narrow .... unless you dispense with columns and use in wall speakers.... depends on style and look you are going for. Decisions, decisions. And you thought the second time was going to be easy.
post #708 of 772
KNKKNK, he will not break he will not bend. I will be watching this intently.
post #709 of 772
Brad,

Congrats - looking forward to following along for round #2
post #710 of 772
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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

Brad, because this looks like a separate building I'd go with the channel in order to keep the width. I have a 15' wide room and I ideally I would have liked another foot or so. It really depends on the seats you use, but if you go with the big boys 14'3" (less treatment) is getting narrow .... unless you dispense with columns and use in wall speakers.... depends on style and look you are going for. Decisions, decisions. And you thought the second time was going to be easy.

I agree with the importance of width. My theater is 16.5' wide and I'm really glad it is. With 4 seats across it feels spacious... not just some space dug out of a residential home. There's a nice feeling when walking in and down the isles. When you are seated the walls don't crowd in from either side at all. It's a very un-claustrophobic feeling. I've been in smaller when looking at houses (even in a neighboring $4.4M home!) and it feels very compromised in comparison.
post #711 of 772
WHOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Theater number 2! biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif Count me in for the ride! Although it is a little far to travel for a demo. Looking forward to see this one come together as well.

Are there going to be lions in this one? (Whishful thinking)

Regards,

RTROSE
post #712 of 772
Thread Starter 
Thats why I shop here!!

Moggie/ Erkq.... Thats why I shop here!!wink.gif ....You guys are right.. I don't know why I started second guessing the Clips and Channel.
(trying to stay with what I know I guess)
My last room was 16' wide (minus treatments) and with 120" wide seating it was a comfortable width.
So back to the original plan.

thegeek.... Crackin me Up..tongue.gif

cuzed2.. Wish we had taken the time to get together when we were only a couple of hrs apart
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Originally Posted by RTROSE View Post

Are there going to be lions in this one? (Whishful thinking)

Regards,

RTROSE

Not sure.. it could become a signature trademark thingy biggrin.gif

Put the Call in to DE this morning, Ted and John next.... Clarity on the horizon......... smile.gif
post #713 of 772
Looking good already...
Where are you at in the valley?
post #714 of 772
Thread Starter 
Gilbert
post #715 of 772
My motto, always be leery of any "something" described as a "thingy". JMHO. tongue.gif

Regards,

RTROSE
post #716 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post

Gilbert

Been there - Nice location !
post #717 of 772
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Originally Posted by KNKKNK View Post


Jzc.. I lived here for 20 year before.. I just forgot how F*&^*^*G Hot it gets. eek.gif

HUH? Where that came from?

Jzc
post #718 of 772
Thread Starter 
I finally had a chance to sit down and come up with a general, ie.. rough, room layout and design concept i like. (it may have a chance of working but I fear the front row is in a bad spot for room length) ..Below is what i submitted to EG for feedback.. So, It could all be subject to change based on the feedback from the powers to be....

photo Theaterdesign191staggeredwalls.jpg

Envision the elevation above with the same type of panels (scaled accordingly) and the sconces mounted as in my last build and you can get a decent picture of the direction I would like to go with this one. (a little less ornate however, I will most likely eliminate most of the fluting and capitols etc...)

photo 014.jpg

I'm eliminating the IB from this build and going with sealed subs, it was a tough decision involving many sleepless nights, and one I hope I don't regret in the future. There is always comfort in sticking with what you know, but im taking a leap of faith based on Input from people who know more.

Im shooting for Monday to get my rough in inspection , Just need to wrap up some loose ends in the building If i can keep from melting.. cool.gif

I'll post a few update pics this weekend..

Brad
post #719 of 772
Looks good to me. smile.gif

Could you recap the advice and decision process that leads you to sealed subs?
post #720 of 772
Nice plans. I like the stepped design you have going on for the walls and ceiling like KBlaw2010's and Dennis' Caribbean builds.

By the way...good luck staying cool this weekend. I heard it was going to be 117-119 degrees during the day and in the low 90s at night!! eek.gifeek.gif
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