Benq w6000 - Page 5

Hello,

any news or reviews about the W6000 light canon?

AV distributor Starin Marketing got the first shipment (25) of the new W6000's in on Tuesday, according to BenQ.

Of course, they won't sell directly to the public, but this means that by the end of next week, the W6000 will be in stock at the forum's sponsors, IMO.

Hang in there.

The wait will soon be over.

I just received it, I'll run a few tests. Hopefully someone more experienced than myself will post a detailed review.

If nothing else, you will satisfy many temporarily with unboxing pictures

Here are a few photos...Of course the wife had to loose the battery charger for the camera...

That actually looks a surprisingly lot different than the W5000

Welcome to AVS!

Thanks for the pics. I like the lettering on the box. At least Ben thinks it is primarily a "Home Theater Projector". Sure looks to be the case, not a small portable presentation pj. Another indication might be the lettering of the inputs on the back for either table mount or ceiling.

Now get it mounted and do a full calibration. We expect a report in the next 24 hours. Kidding, of course. Congrats on the first to score one of these.

I have high hopes for this new unit. With a bias towards DLP vs. LCD and a need for either a zero offset or lens shift along with a short throw lens the search for a replacement for my 4 year old Ben PE-7700 has been frustrating.

Look forward to all the reviews.

Joe

Hope art does not mind me posting this, I went ahead and asked art. He might have a blog up later tonight with first impressions.

He said he got 1061 calibrated lumens.

Said the black level is improved over the 5000, said it and the Sony W15 (i think thats the new model) are close in black level, said the sony is being revealed today at cedia. He compared it being close to the 6500ub in black level although he said the 6500 might be a bit better. Still at 1032 lumens, approaching the 6500ub in black levels is pretty damn good.

1032 lumens, with black levels close to 6500ub, is quite impressive. I believe art values the black levels of the epson 6500ub highly, just behind the jvc line. ANd he did say the black levels between the w6000 and Sony HW15 are about equal, and in his HW15 review, he said on some scenes the HW15 can just barely beat the 6500ub, these units come down to dynamic iris, but as a whole the 6500ub is still as he feels the best overall, and the HW15, and W6000 are a toss up, some scenes one is better then the other due to the dynamic iris. His one complaint was he noticed the dynamic iris, i didnt think he complained at all about the w5000, but he did say he had a preproduction unit, and hopes its fixed.

Im curious does it have a manual iris as well so you can further improve black level?

if at colder temp without green push we can get 1500lumens then wow
but I agree descent black level is needed
dlp is helped by its ansi still 2x roughly on avge that of lcos-lcd
gives the shininess intra image
mine arrives tomorrow pff...

Did he say, was that 1000 Lumens and HW15 black levels with the same config or is one with the manual iris open and the other closed?

The Canadian dealer where I bought my BenQ W10000 sent me an e-mail announcing the W6000 ( replacing the W20000 ) at $2999. CDN. That's $600 less than I paid for my W10K so I expect it will be cheaper in the USA. It also said there will be a W1000 to replace the W5000 but didn't list a price.

The W20000 is being replaced by the W30000, which is an LED unit. The W6000 replaces the W5000. And the W1000 is a new entry level 1080p unit aimed at the new Optoma HD20 and Vivitek H1080FD at $1,000 MSRP

Carada's 1.4 is closer to 1.0 than 1.4 really- in either case, it should look good.

I don't see why they'd use the same numbering scheme and line up the products that way.

Judging by the positive feedback of the W6000, hopefully the W30000 turns out to be a killer.

I believe it was with 1061 lumens he got that black level. He never mentioned closing the iris, again does it even have a manual iris? His entire email to me he stated he will refer to best mode.

After he mentioned best mode his numbers were as follows, 1061 lumens calibrated, and then he went on to discuss the black levels being comparable to HW15 and right near the 6500ub black levels. He said blacks were definately better then the w5000.

Hello Gringuito, what are your feelings ?

And what about audible noise ?

What were your previous projectors ?

Thanks !

Any news guys'My concern is the specs say 34dec on noise.I see it is in stock now.

Is this 6000 at CEDIA?

But it looks like it needs the DI to do it

Ordered mine this morning. I am looking forward to testing it.

Yes, and in general, I'm not a DI fan. Although the PJ's you mentioned do implement DI well.

DLP wise, there hasn't really been a well implemented DI so far. If DI can appear unnoticeable, and still achieve high contrast in mixed scenes, excellent shadow detail, etc., then you got my attention

Anyone would obviously prefer a native contrast and black level.

The only poor di performance i have seen was optoma. My w5000 i cant notice the di at all, nor when i tested the 6500ub.

Art over at projectorreviews, loved the infocus 83, but felt it could have benifited from a dynamic irs to improve black levels.

Again i have not noticed the newer generation projectors with a DI to be bothersome. I have not noticed it anyway.

You obviously have not seen the Planar 8150/30. Two DLP's that are generally considered to have one of if not the best DI implementations going. The 8150 has a native CR around 3000:1, and with DI close to 15000:1, and the operation of the DI is virtually undetectable.

Then there is the Sim2 Lumis, which many consider the best current projector available bar none that is also a DI equiped DLP, but that unit is in a MUCH higher price range.

Did I miss Gringuito's thoughts? I need it bad.

You peeps are awesome . . . I mean it . . . I wish you all lived on my street.

Should I buy a BenQ W5000 ($1875) or a W6000 ($2800). The ~$1000 delta is significant to me in this day and age. I will consider only DLP, and the BenQs seem to provide the most bang for the buck in this price range. I'm a freak for DLP's image sophistication, depth of field, and resistance to ambient light. In my layman's opinion only the JVC's can compare in the two non-DLP categories.

My SharpVision XV-Z9000U is giving up the ghost. After almost 8 years of high-quality-optics-fueled DLP glory at 720p, the colorwheel blew up a few months ago. I had it replaced for $850, and had just recently bought a new bulb ($475, the SV's third) to boot. The Sharp-authorized tech didn't get all the CW pieces out of the optical path, so I took it back. When it came back with a clean optical path, it looked fantastic, but after a couple of weeks a weird monochrome flashing began to appear after about two hours of use.

I took the 9000 back in again, and after a couple of weeks the tech reported that (a) the unit probably need a new main board ($2800), and (b) he might have cracked a "trace" on the main board during one of his trips inside the unit.

So I'm nursing the 9000 for a while in order to try to get my money's worth out of the new $850 colorwheel and $475 bulb. The monochrome flashing is bearable while I'm just channel surfing (if it gets too bad a shut down and restart fixes the picture for awhile), but it's a real bummer in the midst of a good movie. It doesn't always happen, but when it does it kills the mood.

The W5000 seems to have briefly gone under $1500 in Nov/Dec. of last year. If I see it below that price point this holiday season, I'll probably pull the trigger as long as the seller warrants that I'm getting the latest firmware (2.01 or later?) on board. Or, if the W6000 breaks near or under, say, $2000, should I get that? Right now I'm not too worried about the 2500 lumens spec, as it looks like the W6000 also has a lower, more HT friendly setting of about 1200 lumens.

I sincerely appreciate all info and input, and thanks for holding my hand while I nurse my magnificent XV-Z9000U through its last days.

Is that how they managed to boost the contrast? Cranking the DI up to a point where it's not usable?