Benq w6000 - Page 47

I'll listen more carefully tonight for iris noise and report back. I will turn the sound off.

I was annoyed by the sound of the fan and the iris when I first bought the projector. Like many things that bothered me in the beginning I don't really notice them anymore. Maybe I wished the blacks were a little bit darker but it's o.k for now and gives me an excuse do upgrade down the road to the perfect projector.

there is no iris noise at all as far as i can tell...there isn't any rainbow as far as everyone i have shown...the only slight thing to complain about is fan noise..this projector rocks peeps...it's almost perfect imho....the abilty to use it in a light room is a huge plus..in a dark room it's jaw dropping

and this comes from a very very fussy f+++++
cheers juan

I turned down the sound and put my head next to the projector......the iris sound is so faint I can barely hear it.

Wow! I guess I should have ordered a refurbished one instead of new. Hopefully mine will quiet down by itself. If not, it might have to go back for a replacement.

sometimes it wont find the source signal...happened twice tonight..had to reboot it to find the signal...if it does it once more i will wont a brand new one

Because everything goes to my projector through one HDMI cable, I turned the source-search function off in one of the setup menus. I do it manually by pressing the appropriate button on the remote. When the projector is turned off, the last source selected is remembered and when the projector is turned back on, it goes to it immediately.

i tried pressing hdmi 1..it never finds it..we will see

Have you disabled Auto Source Search in the Setup menu?

My refurb unit was built in Feb 2011 and I got it lost week. I have had no time to play with it yet. How can I check the firmware version?

Thanks

Should be written on a label on the outside of the box.

When you say that you are rebooting, I assume you're nott turning the projector off and on again while it is hot. That would not be good for the bulb.

I checked the label outside the box and I have 01.101.
I finally hooked up the projector and took a few pictures.
This is my first projector and I did not have time to read the projector so I struggled with doing a basic setup. Here are a few pictures.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post20596231

I am pleased with the picture quality of the images on the unpainted wall.

Set mine up today. Seems to have an issue. The picture goes from great to really dark in the same scene. If I turn the dynamic iris off it just stays dark. Benq is going to send out a new refurb and is being very responsive.Tried resetting the unit per benq tech support. If anyone has any ideas as what might be wrong ,please let me know.

Howard

BenQ is killing me with their offsets and throw distances. Each projector would have one or the other issue with my room.

With the W6000--for my desired screen size (120") I would have to zoom (out?) all the way (little over 14 ft throw, 8 ft ceiling). How bad would that affect PQ?

Also, I can't stand irises. Can the iris be disabled? If so, does anyone have any idea what kind of contrast ratio it would have with the iris disabled?

Agreed. The W6000 has good lens shift and zoom range - but I really wish it zoomed out just a little larger!

Can't see how you'd be hurting the picture by zooming out all the way.
I used to be zoomed out completely on my W5000 with no issues at all. Pin sharp and no barrelling.

As for the dynamic iris, I'm in the same boat.
But it really depends on the pj in question. By most accounts, the DI on the W6000 is very seamless with the later firmware.

I remember reading a figure like 1800:1 measured with the DI off - but these figures must REALLY be taken with a pinch of salt, and very much subject to ambient light bounce.

I have the same problem with mine. Have to zoom out all the way, and I think it is loosing some brightness. May be I'm wrong.

Yes the DI can be disabled, but if you don't plan to use the DI, then the native contrast on the W6000 is not that good compared to other projectors in the same price range. For example, the Mits HC4000 has better native contrast and uses no DI. I have been struggling with this same issue. I don't like a DI that you can see working. From my research, it seems that the W6000 is only a good choice if you plan to use the DI. If you plan to disable it, you might be better off looking at a different projector. Having said this, I still might try the W6000 to see if the DI is bothersome because it seems like a great projector for the money and if the DI works properly it should have better blacks than the HC4000.

Thanks guys. I've decided to go with the W1200, and just live with the offset.

Can any owners comment on the visibility of the Dynamic Iris?

Is it ever obvious on screen?

Does it ever clip highlights or crush blacks?

I've had the W6000 for about three months and what I have noticed is this.

For watching tv you will notice the di when commercials switch between each one. There is usually a dark screen for a second and the iris really clamps down. You can hear and see it. It's not a big deal because it's only commercials.

In other content if you go from a really bright scene to a dark scene like from day to night, you will notice it adjusting.

Over all it's not bad but in my opinion you can see it. The PQ Is top notch though. And it is bright. I dont have a light controlled room and I have it set so that you would never know that the room should be dark.

Hi Guys.
Tomorrow I have plan to hang my projector to the ceiling, using my custom made ceiling mount. Just checked the manual and says that ceiling mount holes are 4 mm in diameter x 8 mm long. But it doesn't look like 4 mm. Anybody know what is the right diameter of the ceiling mount holes on the projector? You can rely save me couple of the trips to the hardware store. Thanks for any advice.

An update. What great customer service from BenQ. My first projector was indeed defective. They sent me a shipping label. They overnighted a new projector before ever receiving my old unit back. The new one looks brand new and has 6 hours on the lamp. Needless to say, I'm impressed.

Howard

Just spent a few hours at a friend's home last night until 3:30 this morning watching one of these and doing a basic calibration. Be sure to do a basic contrast and brightness calibration on it using the http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496.
Make sure you have your output device's(blu ray player or HTPC) color space set to 16-235 Studio RGB. It will make it easier to calibrate using the videos.

Just changing his output from a Mac Mini to his Windows laptop that uses an ATI 4250 graphics card made a difference in calibrations. The laptop output a more ideal video level for watching movies. The software player also made a difference. We used the VLC player on the Mac and the Windows Media player Classic on the Laptop.

His unit is over a year and a half old. I basically sat right underneath it. I don't understand the gripe about fan noise. When this unit is in econo mode, as it should be anyway, I couldn't hear the unit running at all when a movie was on! The dynamic Iris could be heard only if no sound was playing from the speakers. People must be watching movies with no sound to hear this thing! lol
Oh and his has the old firmware 1.00 on it , so the Iris is a tad more noticeable. He plans to send it in for the firmware upgrade to smooth things out a bit.

My Infocus SP8602 cooling fan runs at a higher spl than the Benq!

good post that man..dudes must be watching the movie with the sound turned off.
still blown away with mine peeps.

Joesyah

Most importantly, how does the pic compare to your 8602?

I must have a faulty iris in my unit -- or the iris needs to break in. I am getting used to it, but it is definitely audible, even with all seven of my Klipsch heritage speakers doing their thing.

As you mentioned, the fan noise on eco is not a problem.

I just used a pixar disc --Toy Story 3 -- to do the basic calibration. I will have to try the one you are talking about.

Colors are vibrant on the W6000, they look almost wet in some ways because of the richness. The contrast is also pretty good. It is noticeably better with the Iris engaged. The Iris without the update isn't as smooth as the one used in the SP8602.

As far as how it compares to the SP8602, The skin tones aren't as realistic looking. People tend to have more of a tan than they should. There isn't as great variations between individual skin tones as the SP8602 portrays. I'm sure with a good color calibration they could come closer. But out of the box they aren't.

Shadow detail is good on the W6000, it is better on the SP8602..you just see more dark details.More shades of black come across on the SP8602,in mixed scenes it's really noticeable. The SP8602 is brighter after contrast and brightness calibrations, even though the Benq has a higher wattage lamp by 20 watts.

On daylight,mixed and dark scenes the SP8602 has more depth.
This could be the difference in DLP chips used. The W6000 uses a DC2 and the Infocus a DC3.

Image noise is seen more on the W6000, the SP8602 is cleaner. On text using an HTPC the w6000 is a tad sharper than the SP8602. However, I don't notice the difference on movies.

Unless you had them to compare, it would be tough to see any major issues with the W6000. It really puts up a beautiful image, especially for the current refurb prices! The SP8602 throws a more refined image as a whole. It does cost quite a bit more , so there should be some improvements.

As far as I know you only need to adjust min/max iris settings in the service menu. That's the only difference between 1.00 and newer firmware.

Has something else been confirmed different?

Not sure ..I haven't researched it . Do you need a service code to enter the service menu? Does anyone know the code? Also if you've adjusted this, what were your settings? THX

Yes, information tab in the menu, up/down/up/down on your remote.

I believe 1.00 firmware stock DB settings were:

Aperture Max +84
Aperture Min +12

1.01 updated this to:

Aperture Max +73
Aperture Min +15

Both visible iris action and audible noise will be reduced.