Benq w6000 - Page 57

my two cents here on projector noise. mine is quite silent. no high pitch noise or anything audible and i have the machine directly behind the couch just a bit above head level on a stand. i'm sure Benq fixed the issue with the latest manufacture dates they've been selling for these things.

Can someone help me fill in the information correctly into this calculator based on my post above?
http://www.eliteprojectorcalculator.com/

Obviously, I have filled in the model number and the throw distance (18'1").

But I don't know what to indicate in the "mount pole lenght", ceiling height, etc??

The one I played with Friday was opened Friday... fresh stock.

Quick question - does anyone know if the service USB port on the 6000 is powered (5 volts)?

Thinking of using it to power the receiver end of a HDMI over Cat6 extender.

Let me take a different tactic here. I have attached the Benq W6000 Manual. I have some questions about the manual:

1) Page 12 - Reads "Note that a special rear projection screen and the Benq Projector Ceiling Mount kit are required for this installation location", referring to rear ceiling mounting (which is what I am doing).

What do they mean by "special rear projection screen"? Will my SnapAV Dragonfly 106 or 110 inch AT screen be fine?

And can I assume that the RPAU mount is a suitable alternative for the Benq Ceiling Mount kit?

2) Page 14 - Chart shows that a 110" screen height should be about 137 cm high and the Lowest/Highest Lens position should be 17 cm .

So based on my pictures, I went to the screen wall and made the following measurements/assumptions:

(a) I measured about 1 ft down from the ceiling (because the ceiling height is 7.1 ft high and projector will be mounted 1 ft lower because the mounting area is only 6.2 ft high).

(b) Then, I measured another 3 inches down because it looks like the center of the lens would be about 3 inches below the ceiling. Is that a good estimate? If not, how do I find out?

(c) Then, I measured another 154 inches down (137 cm of screen height + 17 cm being Lowest/Highest Lens position)


Am I on the right track here? I just need a sanity check.

As far as I can tell, I won't need to use any kind of extension pipe for the ceiling mount. Seems like I could just mount the ceiling mount flush via the ceiling.

But having a 1'3" ft gap above the screen is going to look goofy. Can I raise the screen up? Is that what the lens shift is for?

 

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I am looking at this Benq along with the Mits 4000. I realize one of the biggest differences is placement flexibility. I will be OK there. How big a difference is PQ? If I also want to watch occasionally with some lights on (sports), will the Mits be able to do it? Thanks in advance.

You should look earlier in this thread and search the Mits 4000 thread for Coderguys comments.

Ok, finally got my projector up and running but it looks grainy/snowy picture. What could I be missing from my configuration? It is connected to Denon 2807 and the bluray player is a ps3.

TIA

My first choice of projector is the Mt HC-4000 but I need about 20 inches of keystone. So, I think I should be looking at the Benq 6000. Someone on another thread thought the hc-4000 was more reliable. Does anyone have an opinion? I may purchase the 2nd year warranty, but I want this projector to last for years. How do you research something like this. It seems with all of these reveiws they only judge the picture, but no one really knows the quality of a brand new model.

Also, how long do you think benq will suppor this projector? This model is on its way out. I don't know anything about projectors, will I have a hard time finding a bulb for this in two years?

The blue fields are read-only and auto-calculated.

All you need to do is enter your Ceiling Height on the top right where it says "enter ceiling height". Then enter screen distance from floor (this is how high you wish to mount your screen above the floor, 24" is about average which is the default). Ceiling Height is the height of your ceiling in your room. Minimum Ceiling Height is auto-calculated and is just telling you the minimum height you need for the screen size you picked.

Once you get that entered, simply play around with the screen size and gains and stuff to find the best match for you.

@Benq w6000 vs. Mits hc4000
There are advantages/disadvantages to each one. The Benq has the darker blacks, but it gets there with HEAVY IRIS action, so if you are adverse to IRIS movement, then you may like the Mits better. Although you can simply turn the IRIS on the Benq off if you prefer. The Benq does have a good IRIS from what I hear. The Mits is quieter, and the Mits lamps last longer. The Mits has Dark Chip 3, the Benq has Dark Chip 2. Still the Benq gets much darker blacks from the IRIS, but the Mits gets 1/4 there and needs no IRIS.

I think the Benq is a nice projector especially at this price range, and if you need lens shift I would not hesitate for a minute to buy the Benq w6000 over the Mits hc4000. For most people and overall, I think the Benq is the better projector.

The Benq is sharper and has the better lens, although at these levels of sharpness, it won't really matter much, it will for some gaming and HTPC usage. Both projectors are ridiculously sharp. The Benq is noisier and brighter, so it will work better in larger rooms or with bigger screens. You should not have any issues finding a bulb for a Benq w6000, the projector has sold so many units that you should be able to get bulbs for it for the next 5+ to 10+ years. You might consider an after-market warranty as well, but at the going rate of the Benq's current pricing, I almost think you don't need a warranty, but this up to you.

Turning brilliant color off and moving it back 12 inches help for me. My throw was 14'7" projecting on a 110" 1.3 screen. Also change the color wheel to 3x.

You really have to tweak out the settings, my W6000 looked the same way out of the box.

I have gotten it looking good but really haven't made my final adjustments. I will turn mine on and copy down the settings that made a real difference. If someone else has already calibrated there W6000 can you share it here as well, mine are just preliminary until I get my room together.

Here are my initial settings and it looks a lot better than fresh out of the box:

Cinema Mode

Brightness: 51
Contrast: 46
Color: 50
Tint: 2
Sharpness: 2

Black level: 0 IRE
Color Temp: Normal
Gamma: 2.2
Brilliant color: Off
Dynamic Black: On

Lamp Setting: Economic

I only have 15 hours on my W6000 and the settings were just on the fly to improve the picture. I will run some test discs when I have my room together to adjust the setting even more.

If anyone else could provide there settings who has had the W6000 longer than I then that would be great.

I think you want to set IRE to 7.5. That should match most if not all of your sources.

I will have to give that a try, thanks.

Anyone heard if Mits is going to leave this one one the market for 2 hrs or replace it mid-yr? Just thinking about 3D capability...

Those settings are almost identical as the settings I have on the BENQ. I did set IRE to 7.5.

I actually have the JVC HD 250 and compaing the two. I gotta say in my setup it's pretty close. The JVC definately rules concerning black levels but the BENQ rules in sharpness.

@Grouper
If you had to keep just one projector, which one would it be, the Benq w6000 or the JVC HD-250?

I know these are two very different projectors, but just wondering...

Has anyone tried using an ND2 (neutral density) filter to help bring out better blacks on the W6000?

It seems the W6000 is bright enough to compensate for any loos of white to bring out better blacks when using the filter.

My take is the W6000's black level is low enough (especially with mixed scenes - high ANSI CR) that it's not really needed. A better case could be made to use a non ND filter to correct the native lamp's color. Of course if one really wants to take advantage of the projector's brightness. This would prevent calibration from dropping the brightness a great deal.

I also would be interrested to hear an answer to this.
Some further details from comparison these 2 projectors would be appreciated too...

JVC was in my mind for a long time before i ran in to great offer from W6000.

I ran into this thread some time ago...would those filters work with W6000?

Thanks folks. Will try the suggestions listed. After I posted the information I took the numbers from Art's review and tried those which helped. I am going to have to read the manual to figure out some of the settings.

hd-250.

I will give a much more detail comparison when I get back home. Im always traveling.

I went ahead and changed the IRE to 7.5 but then I lost detail in dark areas like the black suits in Tron. I went ahead and got out my copy of Spears and Munsil test BD to set brightness and contrast.

Here is what I ended up with after configuring brightness and contrast:

Cinema Mode

Brightness: 60 (51 before)
Contrast: 46 (same)
Color: 50 (same)
Tint: 2 (same)
Sharpness: 2 (same)

Black level: 7.5 IRE (0 IRE before)
Color Temp: Normal (same)
Gamma: 2.4 (2.2 before)
Brilliant color: Off (same)
Dynamic Black: On (same)

Lamp Setting: Economic (same)

I have to admit the picture looks a better with a lot more depth and stunning detail but it might be too bright. I might knock it down a little on the brightness but 60 was the lowest I could go before the second bar disappeared on the Pluge low pattern. I had to change the gamma as well to get the brightness correct.

I am using a AT screen though so my settings are probably compensating for the amount of light lost through the screen, probably back off a lot for a traditional screen.

One last thing, I was able to get the brightness right but contrast with the Spears and Munsil disc was not dead on. I got it close but not like the results I achieved on my Mitsubishi 73" DLP so I knew it was a bit off.

Hello everyone,

Last night I spent a few hours measuring things out, and I think this projector will work quite well in my theater. But in light of mjaudios last post I am a bit concerned. Will this projector be too bright? I will be shooting from 13 feet back, using an anamorphic lens (Isco II) onto a 46" high screen. The gain in the screen is probably 1.2 to 1.5. It is a custom curved Stewart 9' wide scope screen.

I am coming from a nec 9pg extra CRT projector, so it should produce a massive amount of lumens in comparison.

Will my eyes melt? any way to tamp down what this baby produces without negatively impacting the rest o the picture. I looked at the hc4000 bit placement for me would require some real rework of the room, lowering th screen significantly, cutting holes in walls to shoot through, etc.

Thanks for the input.

The projector should be fine for that screen size, but you'll probably need to close the IRIS in lamp low to reduce brightness. Most likely it will be too bright at first, but not blindingly so, and after a few hours on the lamp it should be fine.

I'm not sure your throw distance is going to work out. I think you'll need more like 15 feet back for that screen size at that throw, but I haven't checked it.

Thanks for the feedback. I used your awesome calculator to get 13'. But i could go back a bit more, if needed. The marquee that I built, under which the PJ will be hung extends back around 16' feet from the center of the curved screen.