Benq w6000 - Page 77

FWIW, my opinion is there is no excuse for it not being possible to clearly see the pixel structure when properly focused on any 1080 single chip DLP.

Here's a shot of my X10. Much tighter pixel grid, but more CA. Interesting. The X10 definitely appears sharper on the desktop though.

http://www.yellowzonker.net/2012-05-02_19-44-22_282.jpg

Once again, taken by my phone, so it is even better defined in person.

This is about as good as I can get mine. The pixels are fairly visible, but I still get that odd light spill. I can see a little bit of it in Zombie's image, but obviously mine is considerably worse.

Yep, mine is exactly the same. Both with W6000 own grid and with AVS grid it looks pretty much the same.
I haven`t noticed lens shift position or zoom ratios to have any effect on it.

Yea, I don't think that's just a focus issue. You can see the pixels fairly well defined on mine, even more so than in my image. If you look closely, you can see it in Zombie's image also, just not as much.

I was hoping someone else might jump in and give some explanation as to what causes that effect???

Also, the chroma isn't as bad to the naked eye as you see in those images. My phone's camera seems to over emphasize it. It wasn't nearly as apparent on my X10 as the image I posted above. But zoom level definitely affects the amount of chroma I see on the W6k.

My pure guess is it's the lens assembly tolerances. Most lens are far from simple and the mounting of each lens has to be spot on to keep the image focussed. Lots going on...



The optical elements of a typical, single-DMD-based projector include the lamp assembly, a color wheel, a mixing rod, relay illumination systems design, and a projection lens (see Fig. 1). The mixing rod performs several functions. First, it transforms the spatial distribution of the source into a more uniform spatial distribution for even illumination of the final screen image. Second, it transforms the round shape of the source output distribution into a rectangle with essentially no loss, thereby matching the aspect ratio of the DMD being used. Finally, tapered rods can be used to increase the apparent size of the source while simultaneously reducing its angular extent, matching the illumination cone angle with the projection-lens acceptance angle. Mixing rods can either be constructed from a solid transparent dialectic, which utilizes total internal reflection, or as hollow tunnels with mirrored sides.

http://www.laserfocusworld.com/artic...rojectors.html

Just an update on my sharpness issue. I upgraded to a BenQ W7000 and the unit seems good. MUCH SHARPER! The projector cross hatch pattern is "thicker" than the W6000 so I won't compare to that as it would not be apples to apples. I haven't examined the AVSHD disc cross hatch pattern yet but overall, blu ray looks much sharper now. There was definitely something wrong with my original W6000.

Did BenQ let you upgrade once you sent the unit in? Just curious as I'm on the fence between the w7000 and the w6000. How does the pattern look now with the w7000? I think they released a firmware to address the blurriness.

Are any of you guys able to turn either the brightness or contrast settings to anything past 65 or 70? If I turn either past 65 or even 60 sometimes, the screen goes very very dim, until I turn the unit off and on again. It's a really an annoying and puzzling problem. The projector is *usually* bright enough at around 50-55, but on some films/games I need to go higher and that's when I run into the dimming problem.

I'm fairly certain I've had those settings higher than that on mine with no issue.

sclawrenc, the cross hatch pattern on W7K uses "fat" bars for lack of better description so I have used AVS HD disc pattern. You can read further about my AVS HD pattern results in W7K thread but images from blu ray film sources lookl sharper with 1.03 FW update. please check your PM.

from which type of source....PC? DVD player? Xbox 360? PS3?

HTPC, I don't use anything else.

Hi everybody !

I bought yesterday a benq w6000, my first video projector. My father already have an optoma hd 70 since few years. I hope the w6000 doesn't have more RBE than the optoma !? With the optoma, I rarely see RBE, one time in the credit scrolling at the end.

I hesitated to buy an 2009 model instead of more recent like benq w1200 or hd33 for the same price and recent feature like CFI w600 don't have unfortunately. I paid 1299$ CAN at Ncix. I bought a 106 electric white matte screen 1.0 with that. I'll install it on ceiling, at 13.5 or 14 feets for thow distance, with the calculator it seems to be good. I'm in a basement with no window (so, very dark room)

After reading this thread, I'm little affraid about video noise, I hope it's not a big issue, the W7000 seems better for rbe and video noise, but 800-900$ more, it was out of my budget at this moment. I just want to be happy to see movie on big screen and I wanted a bright image because my girlfriend and other friends think colors with projector are washed out, I want to proove us that is not true!

on the box, I see mfg date : August 2011, version 1-102 (probably it's a firmware 1.2, the last one)

Do you think a model produced in 2011 can be better than the first one in 2009 ? (improved wheel, fan for the noise, iris, etc.) ?

I'ill give news about this projector next weekend !

I installed it this weekend and watched few movies (captain america, sherlock holmes 2 and Jack Carter) Image quality is very good, good black too. I like the pop color, it's very better than what I see with older projector in the past.
But my major complain it's the motion. When the camera moving, how big object running ou move fast, you see noting, too blurry. The end credit, didn't roll smoothy, very jaggy. the blu-ray player and the projector are in 24p mode. Probably just for that, the w7000 will be a better choice for the cfi. I thank the motion on w6000 is the seem than my old lcd 46 inch sony 60 hertz, but it worsts.

I play with some settings, disabled luma or other image correction, it change nothing. I'll keep it because for the price I think I got the best for 2d watching. If you have suggestion, let me know. I want to try other blu-ray player just in case...

There must be some setting off as I don't experience motion blur with my W6000.

Yesterday, I tried to watch avatar, it's beautiful when the shuttle fly over the waterfall, but when it runs in the forest, that kill my eyes, to difficult to watch, we see norhing image too blurry and jerky. refresh rate is too bad, but it supposed to be 24p like the movie.

my equipment :

- Blu ray player : sony s360
- Receiver : Yamaha rx-v671
projector : benq w6000 (of course)

Can be a problem with receiver ? setting in service menu ? problem with limited bandiwth with the 25ft hdmi cable ?

help me !

I don't know what it could be. I have a Oppo BDP-83 connected right now but had a Panasonic BD player connected at one time as well and never had any problems and that is with 24P. I have had a lot of different pre-pro's and receivers through my system but none of them produced any ill video effects.

Can you connect you BD Player directly to the W6000 to rule out the receiver?

Do you have another BD player to try out?

Is your W6000 still under warranty?

You have to rule out all options and find out which item is causing this problem as it's not normal.

Have you calibrated the W6000 yet? It could be that the sharpness is turned up too much which could lead to blurriness, I know mine looked terrible out of the box before some basic calibrations tweaks. The sharpness needs to be turned down to about 3 or the picture is just grainy.

If you haven't tweaked the settings search through this thread as I know somewhere in here I listed all of my settings which was a good starting point for me. I have since made more adjustments but I am in the office all day today so if someone else can chime in that would be good.

Can you reproduce the issue consistently on the same scene without changing any settings? I use to have W6000 (now W7000) but sometimes (not lately) with Oppo 93 I would experience jerkiness / stuttering similar to a PC trying to play back HD video but suffers from inadequate resources or over taxing of resources. Once I power cycled the Oppo 93, the same scene would be fine again. Wondering if you re boot your Sony S360 and play the same scene if you see the same issue?

Yeah it's on warranty, It's a new one I bought last week, I tried the bluray player directly to the projector, tried a pioneer dvd player, all the same. For my test, I just put any 24p movie and go and the end to see the rolling credit to see it jerky a lot.

If I replay a sequence with blurring, I can replay it 10 times and I see always the same thing.

When I checked review and comments, it seems that's an issue with w6000 and other old dlp projector with 24p content.

For action movies and recent movies where camera move a lot, w7000 is a better choice with cfi feature. I don't have w7000 but every one said picture it smoother. with w6000, image look great and natural only if nothing move hehe.

For all w6000 users : how is rolling credit at end of movie for you ? (some movie is worst than other, depending of font size, scrolling speed, etc. but for me it's always jerky)

The last test I have to try it's to use a different hdmi cable.

Yes, I read all this thread an calibrate it, sharpness at 3, luma and chroma to 0, I tried a lot of thing and it changed nothing. I think the problem it's the projector when it converts 24p to 48p.

Yesterday night I tried an other hdmi cable, changed speed wheel (2x, 2.5x, 3x) and no difference. The credit roll always blurred and jerky. But I play some games on my wii like mario kart where object move fast and I didn't have problem.

So the problem it's only with 24p content, I see a news on projectorcentral I think talk about 24p content and my problem, seem to be normal. In a comment of amazon customer said he fixed the jerky problem with ps3 and 24 -> 60p conversion. I'll try that.

It's strange people here talk a lot about rbe, iris noise, but the big issue for me it's the motion blurring, some screne in avatar are very difficult to watch.

Guys I am on PC and I'm trying out different monitor brightness/contrast adjustment software, but it says that in order for it to work your monitor must me a DDC/CI compatible display. Is the BenQ W6000 a DDC/CI compatible display/monitor? Please let me know

I am extremely disappointed in my w6000. It continues to be plagued by iris problems, despite being sent back for service once already.

Even when it's working without error, the image is worse than my old HC1500 in every category other than brightness and the inherent 720 vs 1080 difference. Rather surprisingly the HC1500 is by far the sharper projector despite the native resolution disadvantage.

We'll see if they fight me on yet another return come Monday. If there was any way to get some cash out of this thing I'd do it. Instead I'm stuck with rage and a $2k paperweight.

Is anyone else having this much trouble with a w6000? Or is my experience unusual.

Unfortunately your experience is unusual at least from my experience.

I hope they clear it up for you or at least offer you a newer replacement if they can't solve the problem.

what kind of iris problems are you getting?

I have a w6000 since one month with around 80 hours used and yesterday, I had a problem, image fade out a little sometimes or completly dark for 2-3 secondes. I turn off and turn on projector and I didn't see this bug anymore, seem to be the iris problem I already read here. is It defective or it's normal ? (I don't want to send it to benq for repair for nothing and still get this rare bug after) MFG is september 2011 with 1.03 firmware. I think all bugs should be fixed with this version !?

thanks!

it's an iris bug

I had mine go nearly fully closed once and stayed there until I power cycled the projector. I even pulled the power chord in hopes that would fully reset something. Seemed to work. So far it hasn't happened again.