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I am an absolute newbie when it comes to 1080p TVs. I recently bought a Samsung LCD (LN52A750, 120Hz 1080p) and was staggered by the smoothness of the picture and sharp detail. However, it was the excessive motion blur which made me return it.

After some (minimal, granted) research, I replaced the Samsung LCD with a Samsung Plasma (PN50A530 1080p). I'm very pleased with the flow of motion from my HDTV and Blu-Ray sources, however it does not have that smoothness and level of detail that the LCD had.

My question is, am I comparing apples to oranges or is there really a best-of-both-worlds plasma tv that handles motion wonderfully and will also have that certain "smooth as glass" quality to the video and sharp detail? Is a 1080p24 LCD the same as a 1080p Plasma?

The rep at the shop assured me that there is no difference in sharpness from one plasma 1080p tv to the next and that my plasma is comparable to all of the other details of the LCD but with superior motion flow - I'm having my doubts now and therefore turn to all of you, the true experts.
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Pioneer has the smoothest and cleanest motion I've seen from any TV. Supposedly the new plasmas from Panny and Samsung will be even better, but I haven't had a good look at them yet.
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The LCDs interpolate extra frames, making the motion look extremely smooth (albeit blurrier than plasmas). Plasmas are better at showing you what's in the actual signal, and don't create fake frames (with a few exceptions).
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The extra detail that you saw was likely being extracted by picture "enhancement" features that most of us turn off.
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The extra detail that you saw was likely being extracted by picture "enhancement" features that most of us turn off.

Thanks for the replies. That's very useful information - I didn't realize that LCD's create extra frames.

I'm curious though - why would most of you turn off the picture enhancement? Does the picture improvement take away from another aspect? Or is it a purist thing that you prefer the picture "au naturel"?
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Pioneer has the smoothest and cleanest motion I've seen from any TV. Supposedly the new plasmas from Panny and Samsung will be even better, but I haven't had a good look at them yet.

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I'm curious though - why would most of you turn off the picture enhancement? Does the picture improvement take away from another aspect? Or is it a purist thing that you prefer the picture "au naturel"?

Partly yes, it is a purist thing. I want to see what the director and cinematographer wanted me to see, not what's being created by the TV. But beyond that, I think picture enhancement tends to give things a plastic or CG look. If you don't see it, great, but it tends to be something where once you notice it, you'll never be able to ignore it.
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Originally Posted by bradGabbitt View Post

Thanks for the replies. That's very useful information - I didn't realize that LCD's create extra frames.

I'm curious though - why would most of you turn off the picture enhancement? Does the picture improvement take away from another aspect? Or is it a purist thing that you prefer the picture "au naturel"?

I would suggest you see Gary Merson's 2008 resolution tests:

http://www.hdguru.com/will-you-see-a...exclusive/287/

The 2009 Panasonic plasmas are supposed to deliver a full 1080 lines of motion performance (using a 600Hz subfield drive) compared to ~820 lines for the 2008 Panasonic PX80 models and ~900 lines for the Pioneer Kuro 5020/6020. Very few LCDs can exceed ~800 lines in 120Hz mode.

Keep in mind that motion information is often eliminated from the picture signal as a result of overcompression by the broadcaster or cable/satelite provider. There's nothing you can do to restore that. But if the resolution is there, Gary Merson's test is a good indicator of how much of that information you'll be able to see.
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