Panasonic TC-P42G10, TC-P46G10, TC-P50G10, and TC-P54G10 Owner's Discussion Thread - Page 207

I would google what 14 blinks mean to be sure it's not a serious problem.

For me, I simply made sure that under |MENU->Viera Link->Player| was selected and now my 50G15 remote controls all the functions of my DMPBD30 blu-ray...

Excellent; worked great. Thank you.

Yeah, that's the first thing I did. Best results I could find were for (I believe) last year's models and the list only went up to 13 blinks. Hoping somebody has a new list.

No problem. I actually had my BDP1500 hooked up to the 50G15 but then decided it would make more sense to match my older BD30 to it. I also see a noticeable improvement in the DVD upconverting quality of my BD30->50G15 than I did with BDP1500->50G15...

Glad you got it working.

those who are looking. Sears has the 54g10 on sale and you can take an additional 10% off, with online code: HALFTIME. it's the cheapest I've seen for this so far, both online and b&m.
I wish I can hop on this now. I'm still about 6 weeks away before I'm "allowed" to purchase.

I would love to jump on the 50" Panasonic price but I too must wait a few more weeks. It does sound like we may have the same problem. Wonder if they are related?

vgsmike: The manual only shows blinks to 13 times, and that is a communications error.
If you continue to get it, call Panasonic.

And if you are within your return period at the store, return it. If my new unit displays one little thing wrong with it during the first 30 days, big river is going to get a call for a replacement. A brand new set should not be something I have to deal with "fixing", it's why one should push electronics VERY hard during the first few weeks of ownership to unmask any issues.

So, is the "flickering" I am hearing about a huge issue? I assume its not or many people would have returned the TV correct? Also, I heard it was fixed in this thread by a firmware update, but it was not confirmed. Is this true?

I agree, when i got my G10 i ran the break in slides and about 120hrs into it the SS Board on my G10 popped and they had to come out and replace it. I was told it was defective right out of the factory and that they are surprised it didn't pop any sooner.

Crap, my set has a date of manufacture March 2009 , yet I got it in September! No idea how come I have such an old unit from amazon. How can I tell if the SS board is bad?

There really is no way to tell. I was watching a movie and got a phone call so i ran the while scrolling bar to avoid leaving a static image when i got done with the call, i went to sit back down to enjoy my movie and i heard a loud "pop" the TV turned off and when i tried to turn it back on the LED light was blinking four times which indicated that there was either a power board failure or SS.Board failure.

What ever happened to buying a set and just watching it? I never went thru this with my Old TH50X. It looked fine. Are the newer sets just sensitive? My home got robbed so they took my pld plasma() I am planning on the new G10 but this thread has me wondering. Burn in-Break in-IR dont watch movies with black bars-scared to have the menu come up after changeing the channel? Jeeze!

haha, see a few posts up about "Unnecessary paranoia"

As far as I can tell, the flickering is only a problem if you engage the '48 Hz' option while watching 24p Blu-Rays.

FYI, as soon as I got my PS3 Slim I threw in The Dark Knight and put the G10 in 48 Hz. Yuk. The flicker was immediate and VERY noticeable. Reminded me of when a fluorescent bulb starts to go bad. I don't know how some people say they don't see it or that they actually prefer it over leaving the set @ 60 Hz.
On top of that, to my eyes, 48 Hz did nothing to improve the picture quality. So it was a no-brainer, for me, to leave it @ 60 Hz and Blu-Rays look fantastic.
So far I've watched Dark Knight, 300 and I Am Legend and all 3 were drop-dead gorgeous.

That's the only flicker I've ever experienced with this set.

I have 10 hours left for the 100 hour break in period on my 46G15. A few weeks ago when I received the G15 the pq was good, but now its even better with better black levels, better picture detail, and better color. When the breakin period is finished can I start watching movies with an aspect ratio of 2:35:1 and can I also watch shows that have the 4x3 aspect ratio without setting the g15 to just mode? Also is it ok to do the picture calibration when the breakin period is finished?

Ha ha. Yep, that was me. I tend to worry a lot about new electronics too. However, sometimes paranoia is necessary and sometimes not. Which is exactly why I took the sensible route and didn't use break-in slides.

I bought my G15 on Friday and the manufacturing date is August 2009 so I can't beat that. Maybe Amazon was sitting on a ton of inventory since they came out or more likely they weren't cycling out the inventory properly to get rid of the old first.

I tell you what though, I have been playing some video games an hour or two here and there this weekend and have had not a hint of IR. Trust me, I've been looking for it! I won't be risking any 3 to 4 hour gaming sessions until after the 100 hour mark though.

I agree with you 100%.

Don't get me wrong, I love my G10 and I'm (now) an advocate of PDPs. But the 'average' person is going to get turned off immediately as soon as they start hearing about breaking-in, image retention, not watching content with black bars, not playing too many videogames (especially with HUDs), not turning up the contrast past 50 for the first 100+ hours, etc.
It's just too much. Most people, like you said, just want to WATCH the darn thing. They don't want to baby it...
Thus the popularity of LCD. You just plug 'em in and you watch 'em however you want, whenever you want, whatever you want, right outta the box.

I mean PQ-wise we all know that plasma beats LCD everyday of the week and twice on Sunday. But we also know how much Joe Sixpack cares (or even knows) about picture quality.

I don't know, sometimes I think threads like this do more harm than good...

/rant

PS the G10 is a great TV. I like to think of it as the poor man's KURO. Don't hesitate to buy one.

As my signature says, the ONLY thing panasonic says is not to do much non-full screen viewing in the first 100 or so hours. I love this part:

The rule of thumb: if you don't worry about your traditional tube TV, you don't have to worry about a Panasonic plasma TV.

How much buzzing should there be on the G10s? I am sitting 8' away for the 54" and if I have muted volume definitely can hear a bit of buzzing, depending on the brightness of the screen, sometimes the screen flashes something bright and you would hear a quick "blip" of buzz. If you put your head near the back of the TV you can hear it more. Luckily most movies are widescreen and the screen isn't bright so the noise on average is minimal.

But I doubt one would hear it if you even set the movie more than a whisper volume. I searched this thread for word "buzz" and came up with 4 pages of results so this plasma definitely have some.. do you agree?

Is there a setting on the TV that will reduce phosphor trails? Do phosphor trails get better over time?

Yeah, phospher trail blind eye setting on/off. Enables a system whereby you just watch the set instead of looking for things that are inherent with the technology. Also flashes on screen disadvantages of LCD to help you worry less about it.

Seriously you have to be looking purposefully for it and even then I dont see it.

I tried using some of the custom mode settings on the pdf chart. Colors and blacks look fine, but I noticed when there is a fully white screen the whites seem to have a yellow tint to them. Is it suppose to look yellow? Or would it be considered an 'accurate' white?

I've been asking myself that question all week long. It's unquestionably the best picture. But it's going to be a high maintenance TV, at least for me.

panabolic,

Interesting about the manufacture date of your set. Bought a G10 two weeks ago from a different dealer and it also had a 3/09 date. Not sure why that would matter though. For all we know sets manufactured in March might be better than those from July or August :-) Now if it was put together in March 2008......

Ha ha nice! I like that.

I tried to look for phosphor trails and see none at all. In fact, I've seen no drawbacks at all after 25+ hours with this set. No IR. No phosphor trails. No buzzing. No excessive heat.

I think people trick themselves into seeing problems.

If you have unlimited time on your hands and want to make yourself crazy, I have found the perfect solution.

Pick a picture mode and adjust the settings visually. I can be very picky after developing photographs for years, from darkrooms to LCD monitors and Photoshop.

I usually start with actors' complexions, then work out into details which contribute to the backgrounds surrounding the actors.

Here's what happens..

On a rare occasion. i will think i got it as close to perfect as possible.

The next day, I will wonder WTH I was i thinking.

The important thing is that time has passed.

Many times, I have just thrown in the towel because I just can't get everything right. I'll try again tomorrow.

The next day, I'll turn it on to watch something and go "Wow! That looks great!"

I think if you spend a continuous hour or two fidgeting with the settings, you can lose complete perspective of the PQ as a whole for normal viewing.

You need a break to get your eyes and brain back into synch, so you can see the forest, and not make yourself crazy over a little tree or two.

I think I'll set it to dim and watch TV when I get it next week. Maybe I Zoom in if I see the black bars on the top and bottom. I'll post pics of my set up when I get it.

Try "normal" color temperature.