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post #9811 of 9991
I don't see a thread for the G15 series, but lets just say I can get the 46" model for less than $500... is it worth it? Or should I wait for black Friday and get the S2 or perhaps the G25 (it would have to be a really good deal, like $700 or less).
post #9812 of 9991
Less than $500? Is it new, in box? I'd say yes, it's worth it. The G15 is the same as the G10 with the top third (or so) of the cabinet being slimmer. Fan configuration may be different but other than that, I think it's got the same innards.
post #9813 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Paul210 View Post

Less than $500? Is it new, in box? I'd say yes, it's worth it. The G15 is the same as the G10 with the top third (or so) of the cabinet being slimmer. Fan configuration may be different but other than that, I think it's got the same innards.

Yes, its new. I guess I'm wondering if the S2 and G25 are so much of an improvement it would be worth a couple hundred more.
post #9814 of 9991
Geek Squad is coming out tomorrow. One of the Magnolia guys at Best Buy says that there is no "with in" spec and that it is not possible to shift the entire picture. It looks like a couple of rows of pixels have gone out on the right hand side. I may be getting a new set. We will see. I'll let you guys know tomorrow night.
post #9815 of 9991
Well, dangit.
I checked my 54G10 and have the black strip down the side.
TBQH never would have noticed till I read the thread again.
post #9816 of 9991
Well the helpful people from Geek Squad just left. He was on the phone with Panasonic and they told him to replace the entire Plasma panel. I am 1 month out of Panasonic's 1 year warranty so Geek Squad has to cover it. My repair tech said that if there company deems the part too expensive that they will cancel the order and I will be getting a new TV. Maybe a new G20. Anybody know if they will pay for a new plasma panel? How much is it? I have another appt for them to come out for the 9th of November. Any thoughts?
post #9817 of 9991
Can anyone provide the part number for the front glass on a panasonic viera tc-p50g10? Or maybe even a source to buy? Thanks!!!
post #9818 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Xpcgamer View Post

Well the helpful people from Geek Squad just left. He was on the phone with Panasonic and they told him to replace the entire Plasma panel. I am 1 month out of Panasonic's 1 year warranty so Geek Squad has to cover it. My repair tech said that if there company deems the part too expensive that they will cancel the order and I will be getting a new TV. Maybe a new G20. Anybody know if they will pay for a new plasma panel? How much is it? I have another appt for them to come out for the 9th of November. Any thoughts?

Nicely done, do you think I should call Sears? I have until Jan. 30th.
post #9819 of 9991
Would someone be so kind as to post your TC-P46G15 SM original settings as my son and I had not read the warning about writing them down prior to recalibrating them. Many thanks for the help in advance. If there is a somewhat definitive full calibration list thereafter I'd be interested as well.
post #9820 of 9991
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Originally Posted by CHUCKCHILLOUT View Post

Nicely done, do you think I should call Sears? I have until Jan. 30th.

I would. Is it still under warranty? They will go into the service menu and run it thru the some color bars and different screens. I guess to see if its only certain colors. For me the solid colors looked fine. But when it was multiple colors of 2 shades or more 1 or 2 rows on the right of the screen was out. Panasonic told Geek squad to order the panel and C1 board. Now it is up to the people that run The Geek Squad to see if they are going to wanna pay for the screen or just have me get another set. Not sure what there cut off is on a set I bought on back on 9/30/09. I think once they see they are going to have to cover it since it is out of warranty they may cancel the order.
post #9821 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Xpcgamer View Post

i'm going to Best Buy tomorrow as I too have the 4mm line down the right. I bought the Best Buy warranty. Think they will replace my set?

...Geek Squad is coming out tomorrow. One of the Magnolia guys at Best Buy says that there is no "with in" spec and that it is not possible to shift the entire picture. It looks like a couple of rows of pixels have gone out on the right hand side. I may be getting a new set. We will see. I'll let you guys know tomorrow night.

This thin black line running down the right edge of the screen is normal and is within spec. I checked into it a lonnng time ago and it appears that since the G10 doesn't have the black edge masking surrounding the outer glass (like the S1 and all previous models have) then this leaves the edge of the panel visible on that side of the TV - it's NOT a row of dead pixels. I have looked at several other G10 and G15 models since then and they all have a thin black like along the right edge to some extent. There is no way to shift the image or shift the panel. My black line is a bit thicker than most others i've seen, but it doesn't impact the image and doesn't bother me one bit.

It's not likely that the Geek Squad will give you a new TV since they may discover that this black line is actually normal for a G10/G15, but if they do give you a refund or replace the TV then that extended warranty you paid for is canceled and does not transfer over to the new TV -but it may be worth it if they give you a new G20 or G25. But they may determine that the S2 is a more "equitable" replacement for a G10 then you're stuck with an inferior TV.
post #9822 of 9991
Thanks for the heads up but why would they consider the S2? They have G20's sitting in there store. The new Panel and C1 board where already ordered. A question for you pros, If they replace the panel and C1 board I know the panel will break it's self in but will I have to go thru the raising blacks again? Or has will the newer panel have the re calibrated voltage rise? Is that from the panel or from the TV?
post #9823 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Xpcgamer View Post

Thanks for the heads up but why would they consider the S2? They have G20's sitting in there store.

Because they reserve the right to replace your dead TV with whatever they consider to be the most equitable model and the S2 is closer in performance to the G10 than a G25 is, and they have the S2 sitting in the store too. Plus, they try to get away as cheap as possible. It's happened to a lot of people here. Read the fine print of their warranty terms.

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The new Panel and C1 board where already ordered. A question for you pro, I they replace the panel and C1 board I know the panel will break it's self in but will I have to go thru the raising blacks again? Or has will the newer panel have the re calibrated voltage rise? Is that from the panel or from the TV?

The voltage rise will be the same with the new parts as it was with the old parts. A new panel is nothing more than surplus inventory left over from when the G10s were being produced that's been in storage from last year.

But in the end, i'm pretty sure that you'll still have a black line along the right edge of the screen. They all do.
post #9824 of 9991
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Originally Posted by regs4 View Post

Would someone be so kind as to post your TC-P46G15 SM original settings as my son and I had not read the warning about writing them down prior to recalibrating them. Many thanks for the help in advance. If there is a somewhat definitive full calibration list thereafter I'd be interested as well.


There is no global default service menu setting. Each set is different.

If you mean that your son applied the service menu offsets from D-Nice then the simple way to restore the factory default values is to apply the reverse of the offsets. If, however, he 'tinkered' with the values, there is no way to restore them.

You may be in luck if he did not touch the SD settings since the factory values for SD and HD are the same.


Larry
post #9825 of 9991
Hi all,

I've had a 50G10 since last december. I had a tech install the THX update, but to be honest, I never thought it made any difference. I didn't note my LSI data before the update but it is now sitting at .6 which I believe is the correct value after the update for a 50G10.

Right now, I'm quite dissapointed with this TV and I am considering buying a new one... the image is dull/lacks punch (especially on 1080i), black levels have doubled, etc....

Anyways, I figured I'd give it one last shot as some ppl are very happy with this set... first question, could I damage anything by installing the update again? Any chance that the update installed by the tech didn't work?

Second question, anyone has links to post-thx fix calibration settings? With or without SM settings... I'm willing to try anything to improve my picture before making the jump.
post #9826 of 9991
Have you tried having it calibrated?
post #9827 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Xpcgamer View Post

Well the helpful people from Geek Squad just left. He was on the phone with Panasonic and they told him to replace the entire Plasma panel. I am 1 month out of Panasonic's 1 year warranty so Geek Squad has to cover it. My repair tech said that if there company deems the part too expensive that they will cancel the order and I will be getting a new TV. Maybe a new G20. Anybody know if they will pay for a new plasma panel? How much is it? I have another appt for them to come out for the 9th of November. Any thoughts?



panasonic panels have a 2 year warranty
post #9828 of 9991
My manual says 1 year Part and Labor On site for 47"s and larger for Panasonic Plasma displays.
post #9829 of 9991
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Originally Posted by donnymac51 View Post

panasonic panels have a 2 year warranty

Panasonic used to warranty the panel itself for two years (parts cost only, not labor) but that ceased a few years ago. The warranty on the 2010 and 2009 consumer models is now 1 year parts and labor.
post #9830 of 9991
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Panasonic used to warranty the panel itself for two years (parts cost only, not labor) but that ceased a few years ago. The warranty on the 2010 and 2009 consumer models is now 1 year parts and labor.

My V10 is in the shop right now and the repair guy told me Panny has a 2 yr warranty on the panel.
post #9831 of 9991
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Originally Posted by donnymac51 View Post

My V10 is in the shop right now and the repair guy told me Panny has a 2 yr warranty on the panel.

He's wrong, so if you're having the panel replaced get his words in writing so you don't get stuck with a $2000 bill for a new panel

The 2008 PZ8xx series manuals and 2007 PZ7xx series manuals say 1 year parts and labor, but also state that the Glass Panel warranty is 2 years and only the cost of the part is covered in that extra year.

The manual for the V10 (and my G10) both say One Year Parts and Labor with no mention of a 2-year panel warranty. When i got my G10 and read this in the manual i called Panasonic to confirm it and the gal said that now their panels have a one year warranty. She was aware that it used to be 2 years and apologized because i was kinda pissed to discover that they reduced it to one year.
post #9832 of 9991
Randy,
The panel was a guess on his part as a possibility before he took it to the shop for testing. I need to call him today anyway so I will have this discusssion with him.. In case it is the panel I'm covered thru my credit card warranty. I would think if that was the case they would just spring for a new set at that price. Thanks for the info.
post #9833 of 9991
If the Panny was bought at Costco then the warranty would be two years. That may be a stretch in this case but Costco does go two years and they do sell Panasonic.
post #9834 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Xpcgamer View Post

Have you tried having it calibrated?

I live in New Brunswick, Canada, I don't believe we have professional calibrators around here. I'll either have to do it myself using Calibration Discs or nothing.
post #9835 of 9991
Well I got my set swapped out and decided to go with a Samsung Plasma. 50" C680. Looks wonderful. Now I can try out this thing they are calling 3D television. Good Luck everyone!
post #9836 of 9991
46G10, and I'd like to use the networking features for streaming and updates. I don't have a home network now. For updates, I've usually just temporarily carried the cable modem over to the TV, plugged it into the ethernet port, and checked for updates (after setting up the network parms, etc).

I'd like to add a wireless setup, with the modem and router connected to the PC by ethernet, and wireless connection at the TV.

The primary reason for wanting to connect at the PC is because phone service (Comcast) is on the cable modem, so I need to keep it near the PC, as there are no phone jacks anywhere near the TV.

Is this possible or is my only choice putting the router direct to the tv and wireless to the PC?

Thanks...
post #9837 of 9991
You can get a wireless router and wireless access point to accomplish what you need. I would go with wireless N as it's faster speed may help with streaming HD video if you chose to do so.

Dual band would be a good choice as it can communicate at 2.4 and 5 ghz in case your cordless phones are 2.4ghz.
post #9838 of 9991
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

You can get a wireless router and wireless access point to accomplish what you need. I would go with wireless N as it's faster speed may help with streaming HD video if you chose to do so.

Dual band would be a good choice as it can communicate at 2.4 and 5 ghz in case your cordless phones are 2.4ghz.

Thanks, I'm doing some shopping now and hopefully will find some good prices.
post #9839 of 9991
I kept my router and modem upstairs, connceted a D-Link DAP 1522 set it to the bridge mode downstairs in the media room. Has four ports where you can connect other devices such as the TV, XBOX, BLURAY, PS3 ect. worked like a champ with the DIR 655 now stream netflix no problem
post #9840 of 9991
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I kept my router and modem upstairs, connceted a D-Link DAP 1522 set it to the bridge mode downstairs in the media room. Has four ports where you can connect other devices such as the TV, XBOX, BLURAY, PS3 ect. worked like a champ with the DIR 655 now stream netflix no problem

Thanks, that sounds like it works quite well. But since I'm starting from scratch, that seems a bit pricey (just pricey for me ).

I've just picked up a SMC 802n router and wireless usb adapter combo for $30 from buy.com. I'll try and hook the SMC up directly to the TV, use the wireless usb adapter on the PC. Use a bunch of telephone cord to get the Comcast modem phone connector to the jack that is closest. If it doesn't work well, I still have some days left for a return to them and a more expensive solution.
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