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post #9961 of 9991
My TCP42G10 that I purchased brand new in 2009 has performed flawlessly. The picture is still perfect to my eyes and everyone else's too. I have not, nor ever did test the black levels with any test equipment because I don't have any equipment here.

I let my eyes be the judge; not anyone else's eyes... I was so damned tied up with all the disaster sounding discussions regarding that black level in 2009 that I feared making the purchase. But it turned out that I am so glad I purchased it because it still kicks butt today. Also... my 50" G20 is performing as good as the day I bought it too. I'll be darned if I can see any loss of black levels in either one; they are both perfect.

How the sets would measure up when testing with test equipment is beyong my knowledge but they sure seem fine to me and I am mighty happy with my purchases. If I do decide to upgrade to a 2013 model this year, it will be for the sole reason of getting a larger screen size because both tv's are performing very well for me.wink.gif
post #9962 of 9991
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Originally Posted by TommyO View Post

My TCP42G10 that I purchased brand new in 2009 has performed flawlessly. The picture is still perfect to my eyes and everyone else's too. I have not, nor ever did test the black levels with any test equipment because I don't have any equipment here.
I let my eyes be the judge; not anyone else's eyes... I was so damned tied up with all the disaster sounding discussions regarding that black level in 2009 that I feared making the purchase. But it turned out that I am so glad I purchased it because it still kicks butt today. Also... my 50" G20 is performing as good as the day I bought it too. I'll be darned if I can see any loss of black levels in either one; they are both perfect.
How the sets would measure up when testing with test equipment is beyong my knowledge but they sure seem fine to me and I am mighty happy with my purchases. If I do decide to upgrade to a 2013 model this year, it will be for the sole reason of getting a larger screen size because both tv's are performing very well for me.wink.gif

Have the same TV, I'm waiting for my brand new 55" VT but I was just struck by how great the picture looked on my G10, blacks and all.
post #9963 of 9991
Yup... And I only updated the firmware on it once; I believe it was the very first update that Panasonic released for it. I only did that update so it "would be current", so to say... The picture was great so it wasn't like I was trying to improve anything. Not sure how many more updates Panasonic released for it because I never checked. Maybe there are some more but I don't know.....

While I certainly appreciated reading all the posts here about the black level problem, I was getting to the point that my head was spinning and I was almost afraid to buy it. But I bought it from Amazon and I love the set today.

I will be interested to see what Panasonic offers at the CES show. I haven't had the time yet to scan the forum here so maybe it is already known what panasonic has at the show. I'll do a search on this forum as soon as I have a bit more time.

By any chance Jan ave you heard if Panasonic is releasing a plasma this year that incorporates that Kuro stuff from Pioneer? I'm quite a bit out of the loop with the latest news because of some medical matters...... Sure would love to see how they use that Kuro technology...

Take care Jan and happy new year to you!
post #9964 of 9991
I've had my G10 for nearly 4 years now and I can say that it is the best set I've ever owned. I followed this thread and ordered it almost as soon as they were available. It's been on for hours every day for 4 years and I don't see any problem at all with the black levels. I too let my eyes be the judge and am very pleased with my purchase.
post #9965 of 9991
I've had my G10 for 3 years and am still loving it. Not having the black level issues others have reported. Did any of you get the TV calibrated? If so, by whom and what were the results? Noticable difference from THX mode?
post #9966 of 9991
If you don't have the "black level issue" there's something wrong with the tv;) They all are designed to go to full rise at 500 hours which takes a couple months. I have a 54G10 and loved the black level when I first got it but now it's nothing I want to watch with all the lights out. Any light at all and it has a really good look to it. I never had the THX patch applied that resolves the green push in that mode so I never use it and leave it on custom all the time. Really a great tv and am having no issue with it at all. The 2011 and up tv's are much better with black levels. My 50ST30 is much better in the dark, a lot like when the G10 was new. The 2013 models should be really great with the black levels and would be something to look forward to.
post #9967 of 9991
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Originally Posted by whipit View Post

If you don't have the "black level issue" there's something wrong with the tv;) They all are designed to go to full rise at 500 hours which takes a couple months. I have a 54G10 and loved the black level when I first got it but now it's nothing I want to watch with all the lights out. Any light at all and it has a really good look to it. I never had the THX patch applied that resolves the green push in that mode so I never use it and leave it on custom all the time. Really a great tv and am having no issue with it at all. The 2011 and up tv's are much better with black levels. My 50ST30 is much better in the dark, a lot like when the G10 was new. The 2013 models should be really great with the black levels and would be something to look forward to.

Just wanted to echo this. My 42G10 has been a champ; the picture is still super impressive, even compared to today's best LED LCDs. But I avoid watching at night with the lights off because of the high black level. I use a bias light for night-time movie watching.

I do plan on trading up to a ST50 or GT50 sometime this year though.
post #9968 of 9991
Right now my 46G10 is temporarily in an unused bedroom but at night it's risen black levels are painfully obvious when compared to my GT50 that's in the man room. The G10 looks fantastic in the daytime, but i'm going to be rotating TVs around soon and i'm kinda dreading moving it into the den where almost all of our night time TV and DVD watching happens. It will at least be better than the old PX50U that's in there now, but i've gotten spoiled by the inky blacks on my GT50. I have half a mind to just buy a new ST50 for the den and be done with it biggrin.gif
post #9969 of 9991
Still have my 50 inch g10 in game room, went to 58 vt 25 two years ago plan on going to a 60 inch gt series new tv in next month or two.
post #9970 of 9991
Does anyone still have the THX firmware fix zip file lying around? I tried the Panasonic direct links mentioned in other posts, but the links are dead. I never realized there was a fix and now apparently it's too late... I have the terrible green/yellow cast in thx mode, thanks
post #9971 of 9991
I currently have time usage of 24693.20 on my Panasonic TC-P50G10 and it looks as good as it did the day i bought it brand new in 2009. I have friends come over that just recently bought new big screens..one a LG LED, another friend bought a higher model VISIO and my cousin bought at nice Samsung Slim 55' LED which he paid around 1500 dollar for and all of them...i swear all have complemented on the picture quality of my 2009 TC-P50G10 all stating it looked better than their new 2012 and 2013 HDTV's and two of them asked how could they get their HDTV's to look as good as mine including my cousin that just bought his new Samsung LED. ...i snickered and stated you should of went Plasma lol..but kidding aside i told them LED HDTV's are right up there with Plasma's for the most part now days all depending on which brand and model you buy...you get what you pay for. I still greatly favor Plasma HDTV's over LED's to this day.

The picture quality on my G10 is just remarkable still, for being close to 4 years old now...i have absolutely no issues with the blacks others have had with their G10's. Maybe i just happen to get lucky but let me put it this way...i have a crazy crazy knack in finding the most littlest of flaws with Picture Quality..im super finicky about it. The first thing i mentioned to all three of these guys that wanted their new HDTV's to have the picture quality of my set is that i told them to either get it professional calibrated or do some research here at avs and a few other home theater forums i recommended them to look at..in fact i emailed each of them links pertaining to their specific HDTV.

Later on as time weeks went on..each of them had made their way back to my house periodically and after calibrating their HDTV's..they still said my picture was better than theirs...each of them. Not to sound like i am bragging or anything..i aim simply stating that these G10 sets were and still are one of the better plasma hdtv products Panasonic put out in recent years and they hold their own with even the new Panasonic HDTV's..... Fortunately for me...i do not see no black issues with my set and ive' put in some serious hours into this set for the simple fact that i use it as a monitor for my home theater PC and to be honest..while it may sound stupid and a waste of money for the electricity bill...i usually leave my tv on 24/7 because i have my pc connected to it and most of my time with my HDTV is not watching our Comcast paid HDTV channels but rather i am online surfing the net, doing a bit of pc gaming, watching blu-ray movies via my blu-ray drive in my pc and im a huge research buff with all sorts of things so its like 90% of my HDTV usage is with my computer....so my computer goes to sleep after 1 hour of no usage and puts my HDTV to sleep as well..

I am not sure if because of my PC going into sleep mode which puts my HDTV into all black screen mode actually helps with the longevity of my plasma or if completely shutting the HDTV off is the only way to extend longevity of my HDTV....but regardless..it still produces the exact same picture quality now as it did the day i took it out of the box when i bought it brand new. I couldn't be happier with this set and i have no need to upgrade to a newer set at any time for the foreseeable feature. All these new so called "smart HDTV's" with apps, wifi,etc are completely meaningless to me because i have the ultimate media center of them all... a home theater PC so all those extra's that these new tv's have today are garbage to me..

I believe i will upgrade around 2-3 years from now when newer technology displays come down in price or my current set starts to degrade in any ways...as it stands now..my G10 is rock solid and people that come over always compliment how nice looking my picture quality is on this set.

By the way.... i went with the 50inch (TC-P50G10) because in my honest opinion...a 50inch display is the so called sweet spot in terms of picture quality and pixel clarity goes and im not the only one that has stated this..i've heard this come directly from other home theater enthusiasts but more importantly from actual representatives of a few manufactures of HDTVs stating that 50 inches is the sweet spot for spot on excellent pixel per pixel rendering with a 50 inch display and supreme clarity with 50 inch displays because of it being not too small to take away from the home theater experience when watching movies or playing video games and not too large to begin to see moments of distortion and pixel distortion..although he was not suggesting their larger models weren't a good buy..obviously he wasn't going to hinder their larger displays they offer..he was just basically trying to say at 50 inches you get the best PQ performance and clarity and many others agree as i stated.

My dad has a Panasonic Plasma hdtv like mine but his is one year older than mine.. a 2008 model and his is the highest end model from Panasonic in 2008 and my dad's is a 58inch display..and i noticed quite easily how things are a bit more distorted because of his larger screen. Not only that but a friend of mine that is a hardcore home theater enthusiast that has equipment that he updates almost yearly...he has a Panasonic TC-P65VT50 which is a 65inch panel and i clearly see things getting a bit distorted because of the screen blowing text and images to fit the large 65inch screen..while its not ugly by any means..it looks awesome..but you can see after going above 50' - 54' ...any screen larger you begin to really see distortion with certain things and a bit of clarity loss. Again..not staying these larger displays suck in PQ...not at all..but if you got an eagle eye like i do..you really can pick out these visual flaws in larger displays.

So my next purchase will be 50' or 54' ...nothing higher. I only sit 6 feet away from my display anyways... so it works out lovely by all means. As i stated..my G10 will hold me just fine until maybe these newer technologies in large screen displays lower in price or when i see a nice jump in overall Picture quality at current 1080p displays but with 4k and OLEDS now out..hopefully in a few years they will be at the 2000-3000 dollar range which is around what i am willing to spend on a HDTV. I paid 1700.00 for this G10 display on a black Friday sale (i bought extra warrnty too) even though i had around 3 grand to spend..i used the left over money for a high end Yamaha Receiver...i already had just bought some high end Polk and Boston surround sound speakers and two 12' Infinity powered subs so i was good to go after getting my G10 and the Yamaha receiver.

Currently just built a new home theater pc for my G10 that replaced my old Q6600, HD 5850 1GB videocard, 4GB DDR2 ram,etc..it was too dated to keep up with today's games.

below is the new home theater pc i just built last month. Crysis 3 running my my 50 Inch G10 looks breath taking..the visuals are out of this world..blows away anything on the current consoles.

Cant wait for the PS4 and next xbox....but Crysis 3 on the PC at Very High Graphic settings is technically a next gen game..believe me..its beyond any other game out there visually, easily..

i5 3570k @ 4.6ghz - CM Hyper 212+ (two) 120mm Push/Pull
Asrock z77 Extreme4 Motherboard
Gigabyte Windforce3 7870@1240core/1400memory
8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 1600 - 500GB SataII HDD
XFX Core Edition 550watt PSU 80 Plus Bronze
Thermaltake Versa II Case - (six) 120mm fans
50" Panasonic Viera THX Plasma HDTV
Yamaha RX-V671 Home Theater Receiver (recently upgraded, needed more hdmi ports)
Polk Fronts, Boston Rears, Klipsch center, (two) 12" Infinity Powered Subs
Logitech MX 5500 Revolution wireless key/mouse
Edited by Moegames - 2/25/13 at 10:02am
post #9972 of 9991
I have a 50 G10 and the pictures is good, but.. I also now have a 65GT50 and it BLOWS AWAY the G10 in every way. Just my 2 cents for those who might be wondering or considering a new TV.
post #9973 of 9991
One thing that I think we all can agree on is that Panasonic plasmas are hard beat.
post #9974 of 9991
Have had my 42 in G10 for 4 years now and for some reason the image persistence is getting worse. Anyone think upgrading to the 42 in S60 is worth it? There's some pretty good deals out there, probably half of what I payed for the G10.
post #9975 of 9991
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Originally Posted by Tangled Up in View Post

Have had my 42 in G10 for 4 years now and for some reason the image persistence is getting worse. Anyone think upgrading to the 42 in S60 is worth it? There's some pretty good deals out there, probably half of what I payed for the G10.

The S60 is definitely an overall upgrade in every picture quality category, but it's lack of any sort of Anti-Reflective Filter will make it more reflective and mirror-like than your G10 which may or may not be a problem in your particular viewing environment (it defintely would not work well in my bright man room during the daytime).

That said, the higher ST60 model has a pretty good AR Filter and has better picture quality than the S60 would be an even bigger upgrade - but the smallest screen size is 50" and it will of course cost more, but it's the best bang for the buck this year by far.
post #9976 of 9991
Hello G10 owners,
I know many people have probably started getting rid of their G10's by now, but for those who still have them, there is a fix for the risen black level of your display.

You can read a bit more about it on the last couple pages of that monster Panasonic black level thread here...http://www.avsforum.com/t/1167339/panasonic-11g-12g-13g-black-levels-have-seemingly-doubled-overnight/10830

The guide (written by AVS member mironto) is located here... http://panasonic.mironto.sk/

I followed the guide step by step with my V10 and was able to reset the MLL back to when the set was new.

After living with the risen black level for 2-3 years, I forgot how good my set can look with those deep blacks. Even my wife noticed it - and as most of you can attest, that's really saying something.

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but I thought some of you may want to know.
post #9977 of 9991
Thanks for the heads up, I'll check into it even though black levels don't bother me. My 4 year old G10 blows away any LCD I've ever seen.
post #9978 of 9991
Hello guys, great forum. I have a 50 G10, great TV, have had it for about 3 years now, bought a floor model at a great price. Still performs in a stellar fashion.

Question for the forum - Can I stream through my wireless network to the TV (the TV is hard wired to the wireless router) from any device like a tablet or laptop without additional hardware?

Any insight on how to stream to my 50 G10 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
post #9979 of 9991
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Originally Posted by krishsvasan View Post

Hello guys, great forum. I have a 50 G10, great TV, have had it for about 3 years now, bought a floor model at a great price. Still performs in a stellar fashion.

Question for the forum - Can I stream through my wireless network to the TV (the TV is hard wired to the wireless router) from any device like a tablet or laptop without additional hardware?

Any insight on how to stream to my 50 G10 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
No you can't. The G10 series does not have DLNA playback capability. The best you can do is load photos onto an SD card and play them from there.
post #9980 of 9991
Thanks. What Panasonic series HD plasma TV has DLNA?
post #9981 of 9991
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Originally Posted by krishsvasan View Post

Thanks. What Panasonic series HD plasma TV has DLNA?
I think they added DLNA support in the G20 series, along with built in Netflix and Skype.
post #9982 of 9991
UnnDunn, thanks for the ken. Really appreciate it.

If the G10 series does not have DLNA support, I would probably use the G10 that I have for just offline/online gaming.

I have started looking at G20 series HD Plasma TVs but would love to get your recommendations.

Thanks
post #9983 of 9991
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Originally Posted by krishsvasan View Post

UnnDunn, thanks for the ken. Really appreciate it.

If the G10 series does not have DLNA support, I would probably use the G10 that I have for just offline/online gaming.

I have started looking at G20 series HD Plasma TVs but would love to get your recommendations.

Thanks
If you're buying new, why are you researching older models?

If I were buying today, I'd go with an ST50 or VT50 if I could afford it.
post #9984 of 9991
Hey guys,

Follow up question on my TC-P50G10. There is a band on the left side (about 3/4th the size of the outside border on 4:3 aspect ratio) where the colors have started to flicker on and off. Switching the TV off for a while helps, but the discoloration comes back on and off. There is also a red/green line de-marking the rectangular area on the left side of the screen that runs through the height of the TV. Is this a correctable issue or is the TV going to be unusable quickly. HD viewing is an issue now as my effective TV viewing size is reduced due to this.

Any insights would greatly help.

Thanks!
post #9985 of 9991
You may want to take off the back cover and inspect the board and panel connections for looseness as a possibility. Also look for anything burnt. As always be careful, wait a half hour or so after unplugging it and use one hand only. Hopefully someone that's seen this problem will chime in.
post #9986 of 9991
Thanks Whipit. I will be trying your suggestion Sunday and definitely cool the TV off before doing anything.

Would welcome suggestions from folks who might have gone through similar issues.

Ciao
post #9987 of 9991
Hey guys I love my G10 it is still as nice as the day I bought it. Yesterday it just died suddenly and have the 3 blink error code. It gave me absolutely no signs of death. I really love the TV and want to fix it. I have disassembled it and removed the A board as that is what the info I have found has said the 3 blink error code, I have looked all over and cannot seem to find a board for it except from Panasonic for about 400 bucks, shop jimmy.com and everywhere else is out of stock. I guess I have a couple questions before I purchase a new board, did anyone else have a 3 blink error code, replace the A board and it fix the problem? Does anybody gave another source where one can be had cheaper than 400 dollars. Thanks
post #9988 of 9991

4 years+. Still runs like the beast that it's. I wonder why I wasted so much money on extended warranty :D

post #9989 of 9991
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Originally Posted by PetePablo View Post

4 years+. Still runs like the beast that it's. I wonder why I wasted so much money on extended warranty biggrin.gif

Same here. My P42G10 runs like a champ and still looks way better than the latest LED-LCD TVs.
post #9990 of 9991
I've had a 46"G10 since may 09 build date feb 09. Beautful picture with one problem thx mode was dark and a green tint. I called pany concesire service and they sent a tech to my house and did three firmware updates.One for sd card update and one fixed the thx mode. the third update the tech said updated the tv but he wouldn't what it did.My tv has been great ever since.
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