Pinocchio comparison *PIX*

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12/30/10 at 11:13am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paku

I'm not buying it for $25 again.

You don't have to.
It's $21.99 at Amazon right now...

All kidding aside, this is what I've been waiting for. I've been holding off on this title hoping they'd fix it. I did the same with the DVD set of Back to the Future when I heard there was an issue with it. I have no plans to buy The Twilight Zone with the current issue.

I can't stand dealing with stuff like that, even if there's the possibility of an exchange.

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post #362 of 366

12/31/10 at 7:20am

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BD Info for the FIXED version. First page updated.

Blu-ray letterbox File size: 22.20 GB

Bitrate: 28.42 mbps

Code:

                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00001.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:27:44 23,890,176,000  30,577,247,697  36.31   28.42   DTS-HD Master 7.1 3446Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 1.0 192Kbps

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DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     PINOCCHIO_US_D1_BDLIVE
Disc Size:      30,577,247,697 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.4

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00001.MPLS
Length:                 1:27:44 (h:m:s)
Size:                   23,890,176,000 bytes
Total Bitrate:          36.31 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        28421 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
* MPEG-4 AVC Video      1669 kbps           480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         3446 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz / 3446 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         31.039 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         65.299 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         2.438 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         English         306.206 kbps                    

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00001.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:27:44.259     23,890,176,000  36,305          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:02:21.516     24,425 kbps     43,287 kbps     00:01:29.089    32,135 kbps     00:02:08.628    31,359 kbps     00:02:03.748    127,303 bytes   745,427 bytes   00:01:06.816    
2               0:02:21.516     0:03:55.068     27,022 kbps     52,181 kbps     00:06:01.569    34,892 kbps     00:05:38.421    32,397 kbps     00:04:03.952    140,881 bytes   814,040 bytes   00:06:04.864    
3               0:06:16.584     0:05:16.899     29,075 kbps     48,588 kbps     00:11:10.336    34,876 kbps     00:09:20.309    32,483 kbps     00:07:59.187    151,582 bytes   836,295 bytes   00:10:19.076    
4               0:11:33.484     0:03:43.598     27,284 kbps     45,565 kbps     00:12:27.079    34,647 kbps     00:12:58.944    32,587 kbps     00:14:56.145    142,244 bytes   772,518 bytes   00:15:11.243    
5               0:15:17.082     0:03:26.623     26,643 kbps     54,855 kbps     00:17:59.870    35,006 kbps     00:16:12.888    31,980 kbps     00:18:29.233    138,906 bytes   721,409 bytes   00:16:40.416    
6               0:18:43.705     0:02:50.044     27,925 kbps     46,517 kbps     00:20:21.136    35,035 kbps     00:20:17.215    32,604 kbps     00:20:20.135    145,589 bytes   715,122 bytes   00:19:57.029    
7               0:21:33.750     0:05:24.615     28,538 kbps     49,290 kbps     00:23:20.440    34,927 kbps     00:22:38.774    32,681 kbps     00:25:37.661    148,785 bytes   730,926 bytes   00:24:11.491    
8               0:26:58.366     0:01:49.734     29,259 kbps     47,094 kbps     00:28:03.932    34,995 kbps     00:28:00.136    31,968 kbps     00:27:29.689    152,542 bytes   774,542 bytes   00:28:38.967    
9               0:28:48.101     0:01:57.367     28,619 kbps     42,153 kbps     00:29:12.459    34,572 kbps     00:28:59.487    32,201 kbps     00:28:56.484    149,208 bytes   784,065 bytes   00:30:26.741    
10              0:30:45.468     0:05:46.971     29,255 kbps     49,069 kbps     00:31:01.401    35,260 kbps     00:34:23.352    32,402 kbps     00:35:38.386    152,523 bytes   816,492 bytes   00:35:28.167    
11              0:36:32.440     0:04:23.888     28,787 kbps     48,841 kbps     00:37:48.265    35,190 kbps     00:38:26.554    32,639 kbps     00:37:51.560    150,083 bytes   743,126 bytes   00:39:43.297    
12              0:40:56.328     0:06:46.948     28,804 kbps     53,214 kbps     00:44:10.314    35,012 kbps     00:43:15.593    32,480 kbps     00:46:22.863    150,171 bytes   769,465 bytes   00:42:54.863    
13              0:47:43.276     0:02:49.377     28,141 kbps     54,104 kbps     00:49:19.581    34,642 kbps     00:49:01.897    32,711 kbps     00:48:55.515    146,712 bytes   755,899 bytes   00:49:55.659    
14              0:50:32.654     0:02:34.154     29,664 kbps     50,620 kbps     00:51:24.122    34,757 kbps     00:51:23.789    32,587 kbps     00:52:04.204    154,654 bytes   769,591 bytes   00:52:25.433    
15              0:53:06.808     0:03:59.447     29,456 kbps     49,206 kbps     00:55:50.305    34,567 kbps     00:55:10.348    32,429 kbps     00:56:49.364    153,570 bytes   767,258 bytes   00:54:52.539    
16              0:57:06.256     0:01:41.643     28,801 kbps     52,049 kbps     00:58:22.290    34,887 kbps     00:57:36.202    32,485 kbps     00:58:35.470    150,158 bytes   785,803 bytes   00:58:23.249    
17              0:58:47.899     0:05:18.985     28,340 kbps     48,746 kbps     01:01:53.167    34,677 kbps     01:02:46.971    32,294 kbps     01:03:41.484    147,752 bytes   764,944 bytes   01:02:32.957    
18              1:04:06.884     0:02:25.103     28,490 kbps     50,169 kbps     01:05:33.554    35,372 kbps     01:05:01.439    32,209 kbps     01:04:56.475    148,535 bytes   696,560 bytes   01:06:09.882    
19              1:06:31.987     0:02:36.906     26,839 kbps     46,002 kbps     01:07:30.963    35,299 kbps     01:08:44.912    32,452 kbps     01:08:44.036    139,926 bytes   715,876 bytes   01:08:03.079    
20              1:09:08.894     0:05:43.343     29,437 kbps     48,922 kbps     01:11:38.544    35,272 kbps     01:12:16.707    32,764 kbps     01:12:28.844    153,470 bytes   731,700 bytes   01:14:14.408    
21              1:14:52.237     0:02:09.045     29,471 kbps     47,497 kbps     01:14:52.362    35,126 kbps     01:16:48.645    32,486 kbps     01:15:58.428    153,648 bytes   564,381 bytes   01:17:01.283    
22              1:17:01.283     0:03:07.187     28,962 kbps     52,925 kbps     01:18:29.329    34,940 kbps     01:18:58.066    32,708 kbps     01:19:51.161    150,994 bytes   732,593 bytes   01:19:39.399    
23              1:20:08.470     0:04:21.177     29,322 kbps     45,499 kbps     01:21:47.861    35,336 kbps     01:20:58.353    32,318 kbps     01:21:21.960    152,871 bytes   732,536 bytes   01:23:53.778    
24              1:24:29.647     0:03:13.610     27,061 kbps     52,890 kbps     01:25:49.519    34,374 kbps     01:26:05.535    32,204 kbps     01:26:37.859    141,086 bytes   753,984 bytes   01:25:53.106    
25              1:27:43.257     0:00:01.001     108 kbps        0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    585 bytes       935 bytes       01:27:43.424    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00001.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     5264.134                28,421                  18,701,676,874  101,712,988     
00001.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           5264.134                3,446                   2,267,432,916   13,142,667      
00001.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           5264.134                192                     126,342,912     822,545         
00001.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           5264.134                192                     126,342,912     822,545         
00001.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5264.134                31                      20,424,345      120,989         
00001.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5264.134                65                      42,968,977      245,619         
00001.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5264.134                2                       1,604,102       9,439           
00001.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           5264.134                306                     201,493,396     1,121,419       
00001.M2TS      6912 (0x1B00)   0x1B            AVC                                     5264.134                1,669                   1,097,966,351   6,036,666

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: PINOCCHIO_US_D1_BDLIVE
Disc Size: 30,577,247,697 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 23,890,176,000 bytes
Length: 1:27:44
Total Bitrate: 36.31 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 28421 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
* Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 1669 kbps / 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 3446 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -4dB
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 1.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Subtitle: English / 31.039 kbps
Subtitle: English / 65.299 kbps
Subtitle: English / 2.438 kbps
* Subtitle: English / 306.206 kbps

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post #363 of 366

1/2/11 at 9:53pm

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Xylon, any plans to do screenshots for Fantasia?

Thanks!

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post #364 of 366

1/2/11 at 11:08pm

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This is called "run change", something they consider important enough to change on the next run when making discs but not important enough to do a public replacement program. Every studio does this all the time. It is also why the people at the end of 1-800 number doesn't know anything about a new disc because they are only told about what studios consider more critical problems that they would have a replacement program. What they would consider critical really depends on the issue and how much it's discussed on forums like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

just called the 1800 number and the woman at Disney took several minutes to go and check the issue with the tech department, and she reported that they didn't know anything about a corrected disc (and therefore no replacement).

If anyone has any better advice I'd love to hear it... otherwise I'll head out and buy a new copy and see if it has the missing line, and if so then sell the old one.

Just to be sure, are the "fixed" copies people are buying being purchased in the US?

thanks!

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post #365 of 366

1/3/11 at 4:18am

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