Official Samsung BD-P3600 Owners/Master thread - Page 5

Here's one that's off the wall: too close. Overload.

Don't think so....
http://www.samsung.com/us/system/con...P3600_spec.pdf

+1......All repeat after me.....the 3600 does not have the HQV chip......the 3600 does not have the HQV chip......

Here is a review on the BD-P3600...

http://www.robschoice.com/top_picks/...ay_player.aspx

Definately some questions on the video quality...

That's why someone needs to open one up and see if it's inside or not.

+1

I can confirm this, I talked to samsung tech support and they told me it does NOT have the HQV Reon chip, it was done away with because they were trying to keep cost down. I had the 2550, and took it back and bought the 3600, I can see the difference in PQ on standard dvd's, not as good as on the 2550!

Picked up the Sammy 3600 last night and hooked it up today via analog inputs to my Pioneer VSX-S811 receiver. There was no output to the subwoofer. I went back through the setup on the Sammy and the Pioneer and still no subwoofer whatsoever. Returned to BB and got another and it works great.

I want to say Kudos to the Pandora folks. I set up the Pandora feature under my existing account while I was trying to get the original defective unit to work. I realized that if the unit is defective and returned, or sold to someone else, or heaven forbid stolen, your Pandora account is linked to the player. Any channel changes (adds or deletes) you make on the player effects the other PC's, iPhones, etc you use for your account.

I emailed Pandora this afternoon (Sunday) and this evening they emailed me back and told me they deleted the defective unit from my account. I got the impression that I may be one of only a few that have requested the unit be deleted but they were glad I brought it to their attention. Right now there is no provision on the Pandora website to unregister your player if need be. Maybe they will add that ability in the future.

Watched Quantum of Solace this evening and all I can say is "WOW"!

Jim Wilson
Houston, TX

I asked several different BB's in Ottawa. They were aware of it and said in a few wks.

Steve L.

Not a pc problem pc's are hard wired to router and former sony ps3 worked like a dream I switched to a hp pc server and i'm still getting disconected from the 3600 Panasonic here I come

Sad news. I finally got my wi-fi dongle for the p3600 and got Netflix and Pandora up and running. Unfortunately, I bought the unit to take advantage of the 7.1 analog out as I have an older Denon reciever that could not decode the Dolby True HD stuff. However, I had a very weak subwoofer signal. So much so that I've reverted back to Optical out for sound. Any idea how to boost up the subwoofer volume from the p3600? When doing the audio check from the settings menu, all other speakers (FR, C, FL, SR, SL), come out stellar. Only the sub-woofer is bad.

Ideas?

Yes. Set the front speakers as "small" in the setup.

I had this problem to, what fixed it was going out and buying a good monster cable to connect all the 7.1 analog onputs to the avr. and set all the speakers to small in the speaker setup in the dvd player as the above post said. This made it a lot better, but the sub still is a little weaker than the digital out. Hopfully your avr has settings to turn up the DB gain for all channels, you should turn down all channels to -5, and the sub to +10 if you can and that will help a lot to! Thats about all you can do.

After reading so many reviews, unable to make heads or tails re upconversion capabilities of the various models (due to conflicting reviews), I went to BB and purchased the 2550, 3600 and the BD 60 in order to do an A/B test of all three. I also compared them against an Oppo 981 and a Phillips DVP 5990.

The tests were with and therefore applicable only to the 65 inch Sharp Aquos 60hz that I ordered from Amazon. I took advantage of the week prior to its arrival by conducting as much research as possible into Bluray and SD. I was primarily motivated to find the best SD upconversion BR player because of my large SD collection.

The three BR players were connected to the corresponding three HDMI inputs on the Sharp. After selecting the "best" BR upconverted image, I compared that player to the Oppo, then compared the Oppo to the others. Out of curiosity, I also used the Phillips. Every possible configuration and setup was made.

DVDs used were Sea Biscuit, Harry Potter 5, Star Trek Insurrection, Star Wars 3. I chose only two scenes from each film to compare the players. It took about four hours to complete my tests.

Bottom line: I preferred the upcoverted images on the 3600 over the others. I must admit, I was influenced by the discussions about the HQV chip on the 2550 and how significant it is supposed to be in terms of processing video, but for my setup, the 3600 image is cleaner, with detectably less artifact than the 2550, the Oppo and the BD60. Motion scenes (camera and action) were as good as anyone could ask for. The BD60 had a better image than the 2550, and the Oppo was almost about as good as the 2550.

When I say "cleaner" I mean that the image appears much closer to hi-def than not. I see textures in clothing that I can't see using the other players, shades of color that are more perceptible, and depth that is closer to 3-D. I looked for jaggies, moiring and other well known video imperfections.

With re to the BD capabilities of all players, I saw no differences of significance.

For audio, I used both optical and 5.1 analog into a Sony receiver. I had no drop out of LFE. Even though I only have 5.1, I can now hear the difference between a compressed and uncompressed signal. To me the difference is, as others have pointed out, like night and day.

It is safe to bet that you're splitting hairs when compare those players using regular DVDs. The true differentiation factor comes when you play certain discs with wrong flags or known to cause troubles for many de-interlacers, such as HQV benchmark discs. For majority of us in most cases, it is not as big an issue. It's not like we watching HQV disc everyday just for fun

I used to own a Samsung BD-P1400 which has one of the must annoying "feature" ever created. If you leave a disc paused for more than 5 minutes the player goes into stop mode instead of showing a screen saver or fading the screen or do nothing.

Can anybody that owns a BD-P3600 check if the player does the same thing? I promised myself never to own a Samsung Blu-ray player again but this unit is looking very tempting

Thanks for the detailed comparisons. Since you loaded SD DVDs and BDs into all of the players, you are well positioned to comment on boot-up and load times. Did you notice any significant differences amongst the players for either SD DVD or BD?

You didn't mention which BDs you played - if you could list those just we know how the timing differences (if any) might have been affected - Java-heavy disks or not, etc.

Thanks again,

shinksma

'Still on the fence between the BD-P2500 at Amazon or a new BD-P3600 at BB.

My current DVD player is a Pioneer DV-525. It's connected via S-video and is considered a "classic" by every sense of the word. It's pretty old.

Is the difference in SD upconversion between the 2550 and 3600 night and day, or barely noticeable? Would I have to compare them against each other to notice, or would a 3600 still be decent for DVD upconversion?

Or how about this.... if I did not get the P25x0, how does the 3600 compare to the latest from Panasonic?

I want the Netflix feature and good SD upconversion. But having faster load times is certainly a plus, if I don't sacrifice much else.

Paused Seven Pounds last night. It went to screen saver. Hit play and movie picked up where it left off very quickly.

S~

Was it Samsung's screen saver or the disc's screen saver? I don't know if Sony does this but Universal has their own screen saver when you leave the disc paused for a few minutes.

BTW thanks for answering the my question.

No prob. It was the Samsung Screensaver.

S~

Thanks. I'm seriously considering giving the Samsung a try even thought I sword never to buy a Samsung player again I'll wait for the CNET review though.

I hear ya. I had the 1000 for like two days. If it wasn't for the wireless and Nestflix, I wouldn't have gotten it. It's been good so far, but I like the options and user interface of the Panasonics better.

S~

http://reviews.cnet.com/video-player...rColumnArea2.1

Thanks. Apparently they are out now as I picked one up today at BB.

Pretty positive review. This quote should put to rest, finally the ongoing discussions as to whether the 3600 has the HQV chip:

Editors' note: The BD-P3600 uses the exact same video processing chip as the step-down BD-P1600, and we observed identical performance, therefore the image quality sections are nearly identical.

Last year's BD-P2500 featured excellent image quality, thanks to HQV processing, so we were interested to see how the BD-P3600 performed without the HQV chip. We started off with Silicon Optix's HQV test suite, with the BD-P3600 connected to a Sony KDL-52XBR7 via HDMI.

Very positive review. I like it!! I'm still worry about the disc compatibility issues that Samsung is well know for but I may still give it a try.

I would say the SD upgrade is pretty good, its really hard to tell the PQ difference on my 61" DLP from BD. The netflix and pandora are the best feature of this unit for me hands down!!!! I wouldn't buy anything else!!! Be aware that you'll need a 7Mbs dl speed for your dsl to stream HD movies. That cost me an extra 22 bucks a month. A 2Mbs speed is needed to stream SD movies with no interuption. I have had some BD movies load in 12 seconds, and others that took 25 seconds.

One thing I don't like is when I pause a movie, and come back in 10 min, I find the screen has switched over to BD live, and the only way to start the movie again is to press stop once and then play, and it starts where I left off, I'm going to try to turn off that feature off in the menu next time and see it that stops it.

The wireless networking is a little quirky, sometimes I have to turn the player off and then back on to connect to the network. I replaced my wireless router yesturday with a n router with MIMO and still have the same issue. Maybe a future FW upgrade will fix it, but im going to stay with this machine!

Wednesday I pulled the trigger on a yamaha rx-v1900 AVR so I will get the full effect of HD audio, should arrive tomorrow, got it for 900 bucks marked down from 1300 from audioholics on sale this week only. Can't wait till tomorrow!!! 130 wattsx7 should rock the building, my neibors are going to love me now!

I went into my nearest and the last in my area BB that had the 2550 (2) and they were marked down to $314.00 and had a nice chat with the severally under worked A/V guy. The outcome is that their system basically shows that the 3600 (and the new series) DOES NOT have the Silicon Optix Reon chip and he said that he had heard that Samsung was trying to save money (increase profit) by making their own chip that is not as good as the Reon. He agreed that was a big mistake and a deal breaker for him as he was looking to get the 3600.

Although I went through all that, I did not get the last 2550. After my talk with the SR, I am hoping that enough "word" gets back to Samsung and they wise up and the 5600 is a step in the right direction. Plus, I'd rather have a refurb'd unit. They tend to last longer and work better since they have been handled differently. Plus, I have read that there was question about the 2550 being able to playback AVI files, that was something I wanted and made me shy away from the 2550. Now I have read that with the last FW update it will. That hurts.

Anyway, I have all Pioneer gear (except my Samsung DLP) and a 301 DVD Carousel (DV-F727) that looks incredible and am not use to a one disc player. But love the premise of all the new features. So I'm gonna sit back and see what response from Samsung in regard to my inquires is and the backlash of the quality change and see what they do. Who knows maybe now other manufacturers will see the "joy of features", step up and give a broader selection with all these great features. I'm in no hurry. There will always be a 2550 somewhere. I hope I didn't jinx myself.

LOL well as my above post says, the PQ from the 2550 to the 3600 on SD isn't that much of a difference, I still say the difference on my samsung LED DLP is really hardly noticeable, maybe just a little Granny, but not much. I'd like to see a FW upgrade fix the wireless networking issues!!!