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post #151 of 3244
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Originally Posted by FarmerBob View Post

I went into my nearest and the last in my area BB that had the 2550 (2) and they were marked down to $314.00 and had a nice chat with the severally under worked A/V guy. The outcome is that their system basically shows that the 3600 (and the new series) DOES NOT have the Silicon Optix Reon chip and he said that he had heard that Samsung was trying to save money (increase profit) by making their own chip that is not as good as the Reon. He agreed that was a big mistake and a deal breaker for him as he was looking to get the 3600.

Although I went through all that, I did not get the last 2550. After my talk with the SR, I am hoping that enough "word" gets back to Samsung and they wise up and the 5600 is a step in the right direction. Plus, I'd rather have a refurb'd unit. They tend to last longer and work better since they have been handled differently. Plus, I have read that there was question about the 2550 being able to playback AVI files, that was something I wanted and made me shy away from the 2550. Now I have read that with the last FW update it will. That hurts.

Anyway, I have all Pioneer gear (except my Samsung DLP) and a 301 DVD Carousel (DV-F727) that looks incredible and am not use to a one disc player. But love the premise of all the new features. So I'm gonna sit back and see what response from Samsung in regard to my inquires is and the backlash of the quality change and see what they do. Who knows maybe now other manufacturers will see the "joy of features", step up and give a broader selection with all these great features. I'm in no hurry. There will always be a 2550 somewhere. I hope I didn't jinx myself.

Where did you hear the 2550 firmware has PC streaming?? I'm just about to return the 2550 for the 3600 but it would be difficult if it can play AVI's over the network.
post #152 of 3244
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Originally Posted by JREwing View Post

Where did you hear the 2550 firmware has PC streaming?? I'm just about to return the 2550 for the 3600 but it would be difficult if it can play AVI's over the network.



I had the 2550, did the latest FW upgrade on it, and it didn't stream anything! Total erroneous info!!!
Like the guy said, his info came from best buy, don't believe a damn thing those moronic people tell you!!!!
post #153 of 3244
Cnet gave a great review of the 3600. I just wanted everyone to know.
post #154 of 3244
Has anyone compared this player with the Pioneer 51fd or the Sony S350?
post #155 of 3244
watch your codecs on the .avi. it's VERY picky. straight-laced .avi's are no big deal, but anything with a remotely different codec behind the scenes will yield an "unsupported format" window when you try and play it.

for those having issues with connecting to shared folders. remember you need to search for the share first (it probably won't appear automatically). do that (like the manual says) by highlighting the disc (or no disc, as the case may be) and then searching by using the red button, iirc (there's a prompt on the bottom). after you've found it, the folders will still not work unless you then press enter while highlighting the shared computer name. this will bring up your shared folders on the computer where you are selecting the root source folder...and you can THEN arrow through the video/music/etc folders. just fyi, as i couldn't access my folders beforehand and its not necessarily intuitive since the menu for the folders are always present.

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Originally Posted by marriotthill View Post

Cnet gave a great review of the 3600. I just wanted everyone to know.

covered a few posts back...check the past couple of pages.
post #156 of 3244
Does the P3600 stream Netflix in Dolby Digital 5.1, or only pro-logic?
post #157 of 3244
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Originally Posted by mightyprops View Post

Does the P3600 stream Netflix in Dolby Digital 5.1, or only pro-logic?

Netflix streams Netflix in 2.0 stereo, doesn't matter what player you have.
post #158 of 3244
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Originally Posted by ResIpsa View Post

Netflix streams Netflix in 2.0 stereo, doesn't matter what player you have.

And surprisingly it only does 2 channel when streaming a hd movie as well, they need to fix that!
post #159 of 3244
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

That's why someone needs to open one up and see if it's inside or not.


I just did. There is no REON inside. In fact, it uses the same SOC that's also inside the 1500, 2550, 5000, which is the Broadcom 7440. For the front end, it uses the Broadcom 7620.

I'll post pics when I get around to resizing it.
post #160 of 3244
ivoe,
Thanks.
post #161 of 3244
Well I know I said I wasn't going to upgrade my AVR, but I got a hell of a deal on a yamaha rx-v1900! I hooked it up both hdmi and the 7.1 analog. Switched between the two while watching a BD movie, there is a big difference in bitstreaming the dts hd master audio thru the hdmi compaired to the analog! Sounds much better!
post #162 of 3244
Hi,

I just got this player and I was wondering if there is any setting where you can adjust the contrast? I noticed that the player clips the whiter than white...

Thanks
post #163 of 3244
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Originally Posted by gonzalc3 View Post

Hi,

I just got this player and I was wondering if there is any setting where you can adjust the contrast? I noticed that the player clips the whiter than white...

Thanks

Have you tried adjusting one of the display modes...e.g. normal vs. movie
post #164 of 3244
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Originally Posted by iove View Post

Have you tried adjusting one of the display modes...e.g. normal vs. movie

Thanks! Actually in movie mode seems to be more acurate...

Has anyone tried the quantum of solace? I experience a bunch of problems with it...
post #165 of 3244
Also, today I tested the world is not enough and it cannot play.. There comes a red sign that says that it requires firmware upgrade...
post #166 of 3244
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Originally Posted by gonzalc3 View Post

Also, today I tested the world is not enough and it cannot play.. There comes a red sign that says that it requires firmware upgrade...

No probs here. A little slow loading because... well it's Fox. Looked and sounded good.

S~
post #167 of 3244
Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy took a looooong time to load. 2+ minutes. I seriously question the CNET review about loading faster than the PS3.
post #168 of 3244
Just wanted to let you guys know that I've placed a usb hub on the back of the 3600 (tested both usb ports actually) and confirmed that you can attach the wireless USB adapter on the hub along with another USB jump drive. Actually, a large, powered external USB drive will work as well but it needs to be in FAT32 (player will recognize a NTFS drive, but won't display any of its contents).

The USB hub doesn't need to be powered as long as the drives connected can handle the power. Good, and probably the most important is that the wireless dongle can be attached and still recognize the network. This could also help as a means to relocate the antenna for those of you with interference issues (potentially rids any interference with other devices in the are as well). also means you don't have to mess up the visual lines of the player and stick a USB stick in the front port.

bad news is that it seems the 3600 only recognizes the first USB drive that is attached. so while you can have the wireless dongle and another usb device attached, a second usb drive device beyond that will not be read. i know it knows its there since it recognized when i removed the second drive but i could never see the second usb drive's contents. seems to be more of a firmware issue preventing the interface from displaying both.

well, good news and bad. hope this helps some.
post #169 of 3244
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Originally Posted by iove View Post

Bourne Identity and Bourne Supremacy took a looooong time to load. 2+ minutes. I seriously question the CNET review about loading faster than the PS3.

hopefully i'll have my hands on those soon to test out. i will say that it is MUCH faster than any other player I've seen. i'd venture to say that it's at about as fast as the PS3. i think the question to ask is whether you inserted the disc as soon as you powered on or not. the wireless seems to take a good 30 seconds to initialize on my system. so if there is a lot of BD-live content to download and your network didn't happen to be at full stream (or you happened to have a bad ping to the bd-live servers) then i could see it taking a bit longer.

ie. if you have the time and the will power, clear the live data from your machine and then turn it on and off again. give it time to initialize the wireless network (a good way to test if it's connected is keep pressing the pandora button -- it'll tell you it's acquiring the network settings until it's ready). after that's ready, stick in the Bourne BD and see if it loads faster than last time. i heard there is a lot of content for Bourne, though, iirc -- but i could be wrong.

gonzalc3, i have quantum, and i'll look into it when i play it (yeah, its still in the wrapper). i'm going to check out Casino Royale (collectors ed) as well by tomorrow evening.
post #170 of 3244
Has anyone tested the quality of hi-def nextflix streaming? If so, what is your opinion of buffer problems.
post #171 of 3244
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Originally Posted by jnaks View Post

Just wanted to let you guys know that I've placed a usb hub on the back of the 3600 (tested both usb ports actually) and confirmed that you can attach the wireless USB adapter on the hub along with another USB jump drive. Actually, a large, powered external USB drive will work as well but it needs to be in FAT32 (player will recognize a NTFS drive, but won't display any of its contents).

The USB hub doesn't need to be powered as long as the drives connected can handle the power. Good, and probably the most important is that the wireless dongle can be attached and still recognize the network. This could also help as a means to relocate the antenna for those of you with interference issues (potentially rids any interference with other devices in the are as well). also means you don't have to mess up the visual lines of the player and stick a USB stick in the front port.

bad news is that it seems the 3600 only recognizes the first USB drive that is attached. so while you can have the wireless dongle and another usb device attached, a second usb drive device beyond that will not be read. i know it knows its there since it recognized when i removed the second drive but i could never see the second usb drive's contents. seems to be more of a firmware issue preventing the interface from displaying both.

well, good news and bad. hope this helps some.

It's because the BD-3600 doesn't have "drivers" to see that USB hub and use it to address devices on it.
post #172 of 3244
Anyone played around with the network streaming? It plays any of my non MS MPEG4 codec files with ease... Anyone tried .m2ts (like a HD camcorder) or .mkv (BR rip)?

It would even see the files on my unit, but I'm sure someone has a work around.
post #173 of 3244
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Originally Posted by Tarantulas View Post

It's because the BD-3600 doesn't have "drivers" to see that USB hub and use it to address devices on it.

so there is no confusion; i just want to make it clear to all that the wireless dongle + one usb device on one hub WILL work together. Wireless dongle + 2 (or more) usb devices on one hub will not -- and that is to say, the wireless dongle and first usb will function/read, any additional usb devices will not.

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Originally Posted by Tarantulas View Post

Anyone played around with the network streaming? It plays any of my non MS MPEG4 codec files with ease... Anyone tried .m2ts (like a HD camcorder) or .mkv (BR rip)?

It would even see the files on my unit, but I'm sure someone has a work around.

.mkv will not work -- can't even be seen, much less played.
post #174 of 3244
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Originally Posted by jnaks View Post

hopefully i'll have my hands on those soon to test out. i will say that it is MUCH faster than any other player I've seen. i'd venture to say that it's at about as fast as the PS3. i think the question to ask is whether you inserted the disc as soon as you powered on or not. the wireless seems to take a good 30 seconds to initialize on my system. so if there is a lot of BD-live content to download and your network didn't happen to be at full stream (or you happened to have a bad ping to the bd-live servers) then i could see it taking a bit longer.

ie. if you have the time and the will power, clear the live data from your machine and then turn it on and off again. give it time to initialize the wireless network (a good way to test if it's connected is keep pressing the pandora button -- it'll tell you it's acquiring the network settings until it's ready). after that's ready, stick in the Bourne BD and see if it loads faster than last time. i heard there is a lot of content for Bourne, though, iirc -- but i could be wrong.


The screen gets stuck in the "Loading..." for a long time. I don't know if it is downloading or not. Samsung should have designed some sort of indicator whether on screen or maybe a flashing led in the wireless antenna if your scenario plays out. It's just embarassing demonstrating your system and then waiting a few minutes for it to load while telling them that "CNET says this latest player is faster than the PS3!"

I also compared Pink Panther on blu-ray and just loading it to the first screen seems to be a tad bit slower than the Panasonic 60 player.
post #175 of 3244
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Originally Posted by iove View Post

The screen gets stuck in the "Loading..." for a long time. I don't know if it is downloading or not. Samsung should have designed some sort of indicator whether on screen or maybe a flashing led in the wireless antenna if your scenario plays out. ...

i agree that this is an issue. however, i will say it is an issue with almost every brand of player though. even the EAP oppo guys are a little peev'd at that same occurance. i don't think anyone thought about that concept while trying to deploy 2.0. maybe they didn't consider how bloated some of the extra content could be. hopefully the developers will start releasing firmware updates to remedy that.
post #176 of 3244
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Originally Posted by atlantasteve View Post

Has anyone tested the quality of hi-def nextflix streaming? If so, what is your opinion of buffer problems.


I watch netflix hd streaming everyday. Works great, but I had to upgrade my roadrunner dsl to 7Mbs dl speed to be able to watch it uninterupted! PQ is very good, some movies are better than others. The only thing I don't like is its still 2ch audio. Thank god my AVR has Neo:6 3D Cinema, so I can turn it into surround sound.

Really no buffer problems, every now and then I start a movie, the buffer loads in 10 seconds, the movie starts and plays for 30 sec then stops while the buffer loads again, then once its loaded the movie plays non stop to the end. That only happens about 1 out of 10 movies.
post #177 of 3244
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Originally Posted by jnaks View Post

so there is no confusion; i just want to make it clear to all that the wireless dongle + one usb device on one hub WILL work together. Wireless dongle + 2 (or more) usb devices on one hub will not -- and that is to say, the wireless dongle and first usb will function/read, any additional usb devices will not.

Understood... It was "sorta" work, but unless there is some software logic on the Samsung players end to address the hardware past what is more or less a passthrough and 1 additional device...

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.mkv will not work -- can't even be seen, much less played.

It would be great if it would... he's hoping for a future software upgrade.
post #178 of 3244
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Originally Posted by jnaks View Post

so there is no confusion; i just want to make it clear to all that the wireless dongle + one usb device on one hub WILL work together. Wireless dongle + 2 (or more) usb devices on one hub will not -- and that is to say, the wireless dongle and first usb will function/read, any additional usb devices will not.



.mkv will not work -- can't even be seen, much less played.


Reading the owners manual it will not even play a avi file that has a hi resolution much less play a .mkv file. I guess next years model will. Every year they just feed us a little more bite by bite till they drain our bank accounts dry!!! AND IM GETTING SICK OF IT!!!!


Anybody else ready to join a boycot???
post #179 of 3244
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Originally Posted by gmb2428 View Post

Reading the owners manual it will not even play a avi file that has a hi resolution much less play a .mkv file. I guess next years model will. Every year they just feed us a little more bite by bite till they drain our bank accounts dry!!! AND IM GETTING SICK OF IT!!!!


Anybody else ready to join a boycot???

honestly, there aren't any players out there that will satiate all your needs. you should probably look into a popcornhour A110 player as a media tank attached to your receiver instead. as little as you say it is, the 3600 offers more than most other players. ps3 has a few more options, but not much; the brand new feature-rich oppo doesn't have anything like it; even the $2k players don't have the options you request...only receivers do, which is probably where you need to put your money (or with the A110 I suggested). also consider a HTPC as another alternative if you need more than the A110. features like mediastream are nice, but certainly not mainstream.
post #180 of 3244
After having trouble playing QOS and TWINE, I exchanged yesterday my 3600 at a local best buy. The new player can play flawlesly TWINE, althought it was slow in loading the disk. The only thing that I noticed is noise from the player...It is not that loud when it is playing but when there is no disk inside you can hear something there...Probably is the fun touching something.. Do you guys experience something similar??
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