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post #1 of 6
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Earlier today i had my ps3 on to allow it to charge the controller...
i keep the ps3's settings @ screen saver after 5 mins. And i also set the ps3 to power down after 2 hrs.

The tv was displaying this screen for a total of about 1 or 2 mins tops, after which i turned the tv off and left the house.

Several hours later, i came home and the ps3 was off, no surprise...but when i turned the tv on to a black screen, i saw the after image of what the ps3 displayed when i last turned the tv off...
The afterimage was very faint, but it still struck me as very odd, because i'm very conceous of how long a still image is displayed, and try to keep that to a minimum...

Is something wrong with my panel ? i ran the scrolling bar for a minute or so and the afterimage eventually faded away...
post #2 of 6
That's normal, it happens to my Panasonic PZ80 all the time. Most of the time it goes away after watching some (Fullscreen) TV or using the scrolling bar. I've also noticed that it happens more often (And seems to last a bit longer) when the TV has been on for a short period of time. I find that if I watch about 20 minutes of TV, and then play a video game, the effect is much less apparent, or it just doesn't occur as much.

And you can charge your PS3 controllers using your computer, unless you have no USB ports. Since my PC is on most of the day, and my PS3 is on only when being used, I find it wasteful to turn it on just to charge controllers.
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Originally Posted by Barrikus View Post

That's normal, it happens to my Panasonic PZ80 all the time. Most of the time it goes away after watching some (Fullscreen) TV or using the scrolling bar. I've also noticed that it happens more often (And seems to last a bit longer) when the TV has been on for a short period of time. I find that if I watch about 20 minutes of TV, and then play a video game, the effect is much less apparent, or it just doesn't occur as much.

so i take it that plasmas retain still images even when the image has been displayed for just a few mins ?

i took a closer look when i noticed this, and noticed that the screen was a little brighter where the vertical gray bars are displayed when i'm watching SD programming...but i think this too will go away with time....
would it be a good practice to use the scrolling bar once a day when i'm done with the tv ?

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Originally Posted by Barrikus View Post

And you can charge your PS3 controllers using your computer, unless you have no USB ports. Since my PC is on most of the day, and my PS3 is on only when being used, I find it wasteful to turn it on just to charge controllers.

didn't know this, i'll try it out. but then again, i don't charge it very often, only when the charge is low, as i don't use the ps3 for hrs each day....
does it also work with the sony keypad ?

so far, i've got mini-usb, micro usb, and some proprietary usb-like connection cables for my devices....wish everything was micro or mini usb so i can use a single cable

thanks for the input
post #4 of 6
What you see is image retention. This happens on my 46PZ800. No worries. I believe all plasmas recall the last image that was seen during power off.

Chris
post #5 of 6
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it doesn't bother me IF it's temporary....

but being aware of uneven pixel aging is something that does bother me....

these crummy networks are displaying SD content on HD channels, not using up the entire 16:9 aspect ratio, displaying solid logos (as opposed to opaque), it's been at least 2 years since HDTVs went mainstream AND there's still more SD channels available than HD channels.

THAT, my friends is what really ticks me off.....makes my PS3 image retention issue look like nothing to worry about

so us plasma owners will have that to think about, until every channel we watch is 16:9 HD
post #6 of 6
Here's a pretty good post about this issue by xrox.

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Originally Posted by xrox View Post

Forget the confusing terminology that is constantly interchanged and mixed up. Here is the scientific info you can trust:

Burn-In, Image retention, image sticking, image ghosting, residual image....etc are all terminology that is constanly interchanged even though there are several mechanisms involved.

Here is a list of the actual mechanisms that I know of in order of probability (most probable first)

1 - phosphorescence - there is a long afterglow component of phosphors that can be seen even when the display is off. It is very very faint however and eventually dissipates.

2 - Residual charge - Plasma displays use dielectric charges to control the on or off states of the pixel. If there is a slight residual charge left when the pixel is turned off the next time it turns on the pixel will be slightly brighter than normal. This will show up as a ghost image on a dark screen. You can tell it is residual charge because the ghost image is slightly brighter than the dark background. This ghost image is transient and easily removed by either a full white screen or watching full screen material for a few hours.

3 - MgO Sputtering - High energy discharge in Plasma displays causes Magnesium Oxide to sputter and deposit onto the phosphor and adjacent pixels. The result is a long lasting ghost image that can take many days to remove. It can be seen as a slightly darker image on a full white screen. Ironically, a full white screen for many hours is the best course of action to resolve this issue as it normalized the deposition of MgO to all pixels (evens it out)

4 - Phosphor aging - Permanent aging of the phosphor material that causes a slightly darker ghost image that is irreversible.

Finally, the screen wipe feature is not useless and will not aggressively "age" your display. It is there to normalize wall charge and MgO deposition (see why above). Remember, plasma displays use dynamic brightness control, so a full white screen or a scrolling white bar should not aggressively age your display.
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