Input lag wars!, post your input lag results of your LCD display here for reference - Page 42

it sound promising but its worth noting that RB auto cal has been known to be inaccurate by at least 1 frame and that the Sony EX70x has been tested and had horrible input lag even in game mode.

if you really want an answer on what the real lag level is on that model please ask the owner in that thread to test it properly, point him to this thread if he need instructions or help on how to perform the test. otherwise its up to you really, from the sound of it and from what i've seen on RB tests on known models it could be dead on or it could be 16ms higher than what it says. either way its not bad though

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post18777749

about 40ms according to this owners test with SMTT

Panasonic's track record with plasma's in the past few years is that they have anywhere from 15-30ms input lag.

i tested our Panny 50X1 with SMTT and came up with 30ms of lag but i was not giving it native 720p due to my CRT not accepting the signal so there was some scaling lag.

if you want to see more results go back to the first post on this thread and i have a link in there to Orta's plasma input lag thread that is much like this one

i don't honestly see it getting any lower than 30ms, if you look a few more posts down from there he i think managed to get it into game mode and those shots came up with a reading around 34ms but i'm not positive it was in game mode (his responses were kind of vague)

burn in risk is not really a risk after the first 100-200 hours of use on a Plasma, Temp IR becoming an annoyance can be however but its not going to break your TV

i won't disagree with you, I used to be a big time gamer in my younger years but these days I don't game as much as i used to but in any event i've never been a big time console gamer either.

we use our plasma in the living room with an asus O!Play a lot to playback music and the text menus thanks to the black rise on panasonic's give temp IR like crazy on our 1000+ hour plasma but not once has it ever taken more than a few hours of normal TV use to remove any IR that was incurred by the oplay's static menu's

if someone had an image persist on their plasma for 6 months before it disappeared it sounds like they left something on the screen when it was new for too long and it was actual phosphor burn in that eventually evened it self out as the rest of the phosphors aged to match those ones. Temp IR will never stay around more than a few hours of normal TV use at the most ever.

also i would like to point out that the phosphor wear on plasma's if you graph it over time is like a hockey stick, they wear very quickly when new at once they hit 2-3k hours they barely wear to the point that it would literally take a week of a paused game to cause real burn in on them, thats how slow they start to age once they get older.

i've come across it a few times, ill see if i can dig up and information on it for you

grr well the only graph i could find was posted by xrox on these fourms but his photobucket account is disabled or the image got removed. xrox is well known on here to provide some excelent scientific data on technical aspects of displays in the past and if hes still around i would love to have him jump in here and post the info he has on the subject.

off the top of my head though one of the places i heard this discussed in the past besides many of peoples experiences on here with older plasma's is an interview someone did of one of the former heads of Pioneer's R & D, they were of course discussing image retention and black rise on panasonic's and he stated that the wear rate of phosphors in plasma's was studied by them extensively in order to implement voltage rise adjustments to drive the pixels as the panel ages, this is actually the heart of the problem with Panasonic's 2009 models, they implemented the same voltage rise that pioneer did to extend the overall lifetime of the panel but they did so too rapidly and it caused two adverse effects increased T.I.R. and increased black levels, both of witch he implied would actually return to new TV levels once the phosphors in the effected sets wore down to their slow wear levels that occurs if i remember correctly around 2000-3000 hours of use.

it is well known though that all phosphors wear extremely rapidly when brand new, the same thing happens with light bulb's that use phosphors.

sure, but the time frame that you need to baby a plasma is less than a week if you use break in slides found on these forums that further accelerate the aging of the phosphors

i used them on ours when we first got it, it does not mean you have to do it but if you want to rack up 100 hours on it real quick and prevent any perm burn in it is the way to go.