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post #2911 of 8197
Monoprice 401E rev 3.0

Never had a single problem, PS3, Xbox360, Directv DVR,PC Monitor.
post #2912 of 8197
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Originally Posted by snowjim View Post

Hey!

I saw half of the Watchmen blu-ray the day before yesterday, then I decided to see the other half yesterday.

The problem was that even when the BD60 havent been used sinse the first half it was not able to start the move where I leftoff?? This is really bad, my old DVD player could do this.

Now I hade to jump one chapter at a time to reache half of the move, this took forever.

Is it supose to be this way?

All Blu Ray players have this "fault". As posted above, its because of the java feature(s). Sony released an official explanation about this a few months ago, it was published in sound and vision magazine.

It took you "forever" to find where you left off? Find a spot, sit back and enjoy, man!
post #2913 of 8197
I am having issues with the sound being very low (quiet) I have a BD60 connected to a Panny plasma via HDMI. No other sound enhancements (No HT yet). What settings should I look at or is it a defect in the player or what?

Thanks in advance.
post #2914 of 8197
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Originally Posted by ndrj69 View Post

I am having issues with the sound being very low (quiet) I have a BD60 connected to a Panny plasma via HDMI. No other sound enhancements (No HT yet). What settings should I look at or is it a defect in the player or what?

Thanks in advance.

You need to turn dynamic compression on in the player if you only use TV speakers. There is no fault other than you don't have a receiver
post #2915 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

You need to turn dynamic compression on in the player if you only use TV speakers. There is no fault other than you don't have a receiver

Where in the menu is it?
post #2916 of 8197
Read your manual. It is on top of page 33, 'Dynamic Range Compression'.
post #2917 of 8197
I have a BD 35 real happy with it plays scratched and damaged disc's no problem plays disc's no other player will play ...

Needed another BR for another room so I just bought the BD80 $259 shipped, wanted the Amazon capabilities ...

Hope it's as good as the 35 ...
post #2918 of 8197
I've had my BD60 for a week no freezes but I have had it fail to be able to connect to my network 2-3 times. On one occasion it would not read the BRD I guess due to this connection problem and BR live content on the disk.

It connects fine when I unplug it for a minute and then plug it back in to my APC UPS. My question is do you think I need to be concerned that the problem is in the BD60? I have a few more weeks to return it.

Also looking for suggestions on audio conections & menu set up with my basic setup with front & center speakers. Currently I have HDMI to my panny 46S1 and optical out of the tv to my Sony receiver that has optical and audio coax inputs but no HDMI...this way my HD Directv DVR can play thru the receiver also. With this setup the sound is OK but I wonder if I'm not missing out. I may add some rear speakers soon. Any sugestions on this stuff would be appreciated.
Tic
post #2919 of 8197
I just tried out the Amazon Video on Demand service through the BD60's Viera Cast feature...totally diappointed...I rented an HD movie and the picture quality did not look HD at all...also the video kept pausing/freezing intermitently while it reloaded the video...is the HD quality supposed to be this bad?

I watch HD movies provided by my cable company's Video on Demand service and it looks as it's supposed to...is this a fault with Amazon or just a fluke?

also tried watching some BD-Live content from the Dark Knight Blu Ray...also very disappointed...nothing of any use is included in the content...the regular Blu-Ray extras (non BD-Live) are much better...is all BD-Live content this bad or are there some actual good ones out there?
post #2920 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

I just tried out the Amazon Video on Demand service through the BD60's Viera Cast feature...totally diappointed...I rented an HD movie and the picture quality did not look HD at all...also the video kept pausing/freezing intermitently while it reloaded the video...is the HD quality supposed to be this bad?

I watch HD movies provided by my cable company's Video on Demand service and it looks as it's supposed to...is this a fault with Amazon or just a fluke?

I haven't downloaded a full movie yet, so I don't speak from experience. How many bars are you getting during connection and were you watching a new release or an older release? I noticed that I tend to get four bars when previewing new releases but I sometimes get as few as two bars when previewing older releases. This leads me to believe that newer releases are available on the fastest pipes/servers while older releases are relegated to the second-tier connections. Amazon VoD HD is 720p, just like your HD cable content, so the quality should be identical. Are you sure you were watching HD content and not SD content?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...Id=3748&#speed
post #2921 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Ticmxman View Post

Also looking for suggestions on audio conections & menu set up with my basic setup with front & center speakers. Currently I have HDMI to my panny 46S1 and optical out of the tv to my Sony receiver that has optical and audio coax inputs but no HDMI...this way my HD Directv DVR can play thru the receiver also. With this setup the sound is OK but I wonder if I'm not missing out. I may add some rear speakers soon.

Panasonic TVs feed stereo PCM from their optical audio outputs. You only get DD 5.1 if you have an off-air TV antenna or a direct cable feed that uses the set's internal tuner. Audio from set top boxes and disc players is limited to stereo PCM.

So, yes, you are missing something. You need to run audio directly from your satellite box and your BD player to the receiver, not through the TV. So, you'll end up with HDMI to the TV from both devices for video and optical to the receiver from both devices for audio.

Switching sources is more complicated, of course. A good universal remote like a Harmony will take care of all switching issues.
post #2922 of 8197
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Originally Posted by DevilsFan7911 View Post

I haven't downloaded a full movie yet, so I don't speak from experience. How many bars are you getting during connection and were you watching a new release or an older release? I noticed that I tend to get four bars when previewing new releases but I sometimes get as few as two bars when previewing older releases. This leads me to believe that newer releases are available on the fastest pipes/servers while older releases are relegated to the second-tier connections. Amazon VoD HD is 720p, just like your HD cable content, so the quality should be identical. Are you sure you were watching HD content and not SD content?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...Id=3748&#speed

I watched a fairly new movie...Friday the 13th (2008 version)...and I'm 100% certain it was the HD version...I don't understand what you mean when you say how many bars?...I only get 1 'Loading Video' bar while the movie loads...the movie loads pretty quickly it's just that during playback it would pause and reload for a few seconds...was not 1 smooth consecutive playback as it should be

maybe it was the movie I selected which was not the best showcase for HD picture quality but it should have looked much better then that
post #2923 of 8197
As stated: You should be running in to your TV with an HDMI connection directly from your Blu Ray - also, how are you delivering the content to the Blu ray - via direct wired ethernet connection or by wireless bridge?

If your using a wireless bridge you should have a dual N router one that's capable of 2.4 and 5 MHz and run all video over the 5 MHz to the bridge it's not necessary but it sure helps...
post #2924 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

I watched a fairly new movie...Friday the 13th (2008 version)...and I'm 100% certain it was the HD version...what do you mean when you say how many bars?...I only get 1 'Loading Video' bar while the movie loads...the movie loads pretty quickly it's just that during playback it would pause and reload for a few seconds...was not 1 smooth playback as it should be

maybe it was the movie I selected which was not the best showcase for HD picture quality but it should have looked much better then that

If you pause the movie, you'll see a connection speed display at the bottom of the screen with four bars. When watching SD video, these bars are green. When watching HD content, they are blue. If you are getting four bars, you shouldn't have any stuttering problems; although, as I stated, I haven't tried streaming anything yet. If your 24 hours is not up yet, you can try watching the movie again to see what the connection speed is.
post #2925 of 8197
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Originally Posted by DevilsFan7911 View Post

If you pause the movie, you'll see a connection speed display at the bottom of the screen with four bars. When watching SD video, these bars are green. When watching HD content, they are blue. If you are getting four bars, you shouldn't have any stuttering problems; although, as I stated, I haven't tried streaming anything yet. If your 24 hours is not up yet, you can try watching the movie again to see what the connection speed is.

thanks I'll check that out
post #2926 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

I just tried out the Amazon Video on Demand service through the BD60's Viera Cast feature...totally diappointed...I rented an HD movie and the picture quality did not look HD at all...also the video kept pausing/freezing intermitently while it reloaded the video...is the HD quality supposed to be this bad?

I watch HD movies provided by my cable company's Video on Demand service and it looks as it's supposed to...is this a fault with Amazon or just a fluke?

also tried watching some BD-Live content from the Dark Knight Blu Ray...also very disappointed...nothing of any use is included in the content...the regular Blu-Ray extras (non BD-Live) are much better...is all BD-Live content this bad or are there some actual good ones out there?

I too am very disappointed with Amazon Video on Demand. I watched two movies so far, both HD with full bars. Gran Torino was highly compressed, on a 65 inch DLP I could easily see compression artifacts, poor contrast, and the movie stopped frequently to buffer in more. Apollo 13 was better, didn't seem as compressed, but not much better. It also stopped frequently to buffer in more, all the time with four bars. Typically, Comcast cable is much better. They were so bad that I'm not even interested in trying another.
post #2927 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Set845 View Post

I too am very disappointed with Amazon Video on Demand. I watched two movies so far, both HD with full bars. Gran Torino was highly compressed, on a 65 inch DLP I could easily see compression artifacts, poor contrast, and the movie stopped frequently to buffer in more. Apollo 13 was better, didn't seem as compressed, but not much better. It also stopped frequently to buffer in more, all the time with four bars. Typically, Comcast cable is much better. They were so bad that I'm not even interested in trying another.

Thanks, that's good information. Sounds like I'll stick with good old-fashioned removable media for now. The content is too expensive anyway. There's no reason for streamed content to ever be more than $2. I did get some buffering delays when I was previewing some content, but I don't recall what my connection speed was. Sounds like this service ain't ready for prime time.
post #2928 of 8197
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Originally Posted by DevilsFan7911 View Post

If you pause the movie, you'll see a connection speed display at the bottom of the screen with four bars. When watching SD video, these bars are green. When watching HD content, they are blue. If you are getting four bars, you shouldn't have any stuttering problems; although, as I stated, I haven't tried streaming anything yet. If your 24 hours is not up yet, you can try watching the movie again to see what the connection speed is.

OK I just went back and rewatched it as my 24 hours were not up yet...I'm getting 4 bars...I even rewinded and fast forwarded to different parts of the movie and it always stays at 4 bars...my bars are always green though...it is blue when I first start watching an HD movie but once I go into the 'pause' menu it stays at green

I also as a test went and ordered the SD version of Watchmen Director's Cut...same issues...bad PQ and video buffering during playback...still always getting 4 bars

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Originally Posted by Set845 View Post

I too am very disappointed with Amazon Video on Demand. I watched two movies so far, both HD with full bars. Gran Torino was highly compressed, on a 65 inch DLP I could easily see compression artifacts, poor contrast, and the movie stopped frequently to buffer in more. Apollo 13 was better, didn't seem as compressed, but not much better. It also stopped frequently to buffer in more, all the time with four bars. Typically, Comcast cable is much better. They were so bad that I'm not even interested in trying another.

buffering is the word I was looking for earlier...yup same thing happens with me...PQ is really not good at all...colors looked washed out along with artifacts on screen...and add to that the constant buffering which occurs and it makes the movies unwatchable...I don't think I will ever order another movie through this service
post #2929 of 8197
I notice on some of the other forums a complaint that their player can't handle a feature called MMM on the BD, Watchmen. Has anybody tried this on the DMP BD60/80?
post #2930 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin View Post

I notice on some of the other forums a complaint that their player can't handle a feature called MMM on the BD, Watchmen. Has anybody tried this on the DMP BD60/80?

I'm testing this on my BD80 right now for ya. Fifteen minutes into the movie, so far so good. With MMM running, along with the primary video, there is a secondary video called 1VC-1. The primary soundtrack audio is DTS-HD MSTR Multi and the secondary soundtrack audio is DTS-HD LBR. Secondary audio is set to off. I have yet to see the VC-1 datastream surpass 31.0 Mbps while viewing both VC-1 and 1VC-1 content at the same time, so I'm not sure what the trouble is. Is there a specific point in the movie that I should watch for?

I am now going to turn secondary audio to on and report back.
post #2931 of 8197
OK, I turned secondary audio to on, as it should be for this content, and ran it for an hour. Same video and audio streams as before. No problems. I don't think this will be a problem for this player. Although MMM content is not my cup o tea this content is very rich and well produced. Very nice for film students and comic buffs.
post #2932 of 8197
FWIW, I just experience my first semi-frost... I don't consider it a true freeze, because it was very brief and occurred only in the "bonus" materials... the main feature itself was just fine.

Batman (1989), the Tim Burton 20th Anniversary BD.

Again, the movie was fine... not a hitch or hiccup or audio problem to be found. I watched all of the documentaries. Most, but not all, had one slight pause. It really didn't bother me too much, but probably only because it wasn't the movie itself.

Still completely happy with the BD60. Confidence remains unshaken.
post #2933 of 8197
watched 10th successful freeze-free BD from Netflix (that's where i get all my BDs): "Bridge to Tarabithea" .
BD60; FW 1.5
post #2934 of 8197
I just experienced my first freeze while watching 300...lasted for about 2-3 seconds right at the beginning of the movie when the title comes up on the screen...went back and rewinded the scene and did not experience it again...the rest of the movie played fine
post #2935 of 8197
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

Panasonic TVs feed stereo PCM from their optical audio outputs. You only get DD 5.1 if you have an off-air TV antenna or a direct cable feed that uses the set's internal tuner. Audio from set top boxes and disc players is limited to stereo PCM.

So, yes, you are missing something. You need to run audio directly from your satellite box and your BD player to the receiver, not through the TV. So, you'll end up with HDMI to the TV from both devices for video and optical to the receiver from both devices for audio.

Switching sources is more complicated, of course. A good universal remote like a Harmony will take care of all switching issues.

Thanks, I thought that might be the case. I have 1 optical input and 1 coax input on my reciever. From looking at adaptors and switches at monoprice it seems I can come up with a solution.
post #2936 of 8197
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

Audio from set top boxes and disc players is limited to stereo PCM.

On many HD channels, I am getting DD 5.1 out of a Motorola QIP6200-2 set top box, attached to my receiver with an optical cable. My cable provider is Verizon FIOS. When I was a Cablevision subscriber, I was getting the surround audio also.
post #2937 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin View Post

On many HD channels, I am getting DD 5.1 out of a Motorola QIP6200-2 set top box, attached to my receiver with an optical cable. My cable provider is Verizon FIOS. When I was a Cablevision subscriber, I was getting the surround audio also.

This is a text book example of quoting out of context. What BIslander meant (in the preceding sentences) is that when you connect cable box or DVD player via HDMI to the TV, then connectiing optical from TV, not from cable box or player, back to receiver, you will only get PCM 2.0 stereo in 99.9999% of cases unless the TV has special configuration to pass through DD 5.1 (some newer TVs start to offer such option).
post #2938 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

This is a text book example of quoting out of context. What BIslander meant (in the preceding sentences) is that when you connect cable box or DVD player via HDMI to the TV, then connectiing optical from TV, not from cable box or player, back to receiver, you will only get PCM 2.0 stereo in 99.9999% of cases unless the TV has special configuration to pass through DD 5.1 (some newer TVs start to offer such option).

Yes. Thanks, Foxbat121. That's what I wrote and that's what I meant. Further, no TVs to my knowledge pass DTS from attached disc players.
post #2939 of 8197
I just purchased a BD-80, which I'm using with my P42-G10, and I couldn't be happier with the picture quality. I'm using the 5.1 analog output, which I'm feeding into a wonderful old Arcam 5.1 receiver--and have encountered a problem. The sound seems to be about 1/2 second off from the picture (which isn't true when I bypass the amp and just use the horrible TV speakers that are fed via HDMI cable from the player). There doesn't seem to be any way to correct this in the player. Any suggestions?
post #2940 of 8197
I should note this seems to be a problem primarily with Blu-Ray discs, and not with DVDs. Don't know why.
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