Official Panasonic DMP-BD60/80 Owners Thread - Page 100

Originally Posted by Ontario

Yes, I have the DMP-BD60 and receive YouTube, Picasa, Bloomberg Market News and the weather. The Youtube video is a little grainy, but I've never encountered any streaming problems. (location: Southern Ontario, IP: Cogeco Cable)

I also have a couple of "coming soon" icons on the VeiraCast home page, but Amazon video on demand is not yet available in Canada. No word yet on whether or not it will be offered in the future.

Originally Posted by Jacob305

I know that iron man has a problem with the sound. with my onkyo 605 receiver I have to turn the auto in night mode off to properly listen to the movie. I don;t have to do that with any of other titles.

Originally Posted by Rogue74

This is because your TV (and mine) accepts 1080p/60 but not 1080p/24. What is your exact model?

Given the information you are providing, it seems the problem is that BigVic's HDMI module for his commercial plasma does not support 1080p. He will need to confirm but it is my best guess now.

Originally Posted by Rogue74

No, no harm at all. And I am VERY interested in the results since our setups are so similar (I will also be doing optical to an old 5.1 DD/DTS receiver).

You mention that you have an "HDMI plug-in" card. Is this because the display is a commercial unit that needed HDMI added (unlike the consumer units)? If so, check to see if it accepts 1080p/60 over the HDMI card. I know mine does - I confirmed it with the user manual. But yours may be different.

Originally Posted by FoxyMulder

I think it would be extremely useful to know a few extra details from both you guys.
It would be very useful Moggy if you could try Vanishing Point in another player to rule out a specific disc issue.

Originally Posted by Jacob305

bigVic. the black bars on top and bottom are normal. its called widescreen. there will be some movies that will fill up the whole screen like garfield, the fly remake, spidey 1, hellboy 1 and 2. they are presented at 1.85. other films like lotr, iron man etc will be at 2.35
besides if you have full screen.. then you get black bars on the side like they did on the classic star trek series.. which is the original version for that. I think I prefer the black bars on top and bottom then on the sides.
Jacob

Originally Posted by BigVic

My Panasonic HDMI module, or "HDMI Terminal Board" as Panasonic calls it, is Model TY-FB7HM.

The manual does not clearly state (to me at least) what it supports. The following from the manual:

Sig. format -TV (Hz) -Dot Clk. (MHz) -#/active pixels-Tot#/pixels -#/active lines
525/60P -59.94 - 27.00 - 720- 858 - 480-
625/50P - 50.00 - 27.00 - 720 - 864 - 576-
750/60P - 60.00 - 74.25 - 1280 - 1650 - 720-
1125/60i -60.00 - 74.25 - 1920 - 2200- 540-
VGA60 59.94 - 25.18 - 640 - 800 - 480-

Can someone decipher this for me? I would guess no 1080P support.

TIA

Originally Posted by CSEmoses

whats this about a BD60 potentially not supporting 1080p ?!!!?

Can someone summarize this issue & and how to look for it?

Surely a player like this supports 1080p blu-ray playback ! ... isn't it written all over the box and website that it does?

Originally Posted by Rogue74

The issue here is BigVic's TV, not the BD60.

Originally Posted by HDpalooza

Thanks, interested in knowing what you receive.

Originally Posted by Bruce Watson;The only thing that changed was inserting the 989 in between.

Interesting that [B

without the 989[/b] in the loop I played like 20 movies without a freeze. Yet with the 989 in the loop I get a freeze with the second movie I try. Maybe it's just a coincidence? Hmmm....

This leaves me wondering if the BD60/80 is actually the problem. Maybe the problem is downstream from the player -- that something else is screwing with the HDMI signals just enough that on rare occasions some sync or other is lost and has to reestablish. I'm thinking that all the pieces are probably within tolerance, but that you might get a tolerance buildup that puts the system too close to the edge when you hook it all together.

In any case, I'm just adding my data point to the pile in hopes that a trend can be established.

Originally Posted by wymann

I don't have a Canon, but you might be able to transfer to your PC then re-author with multiAVCHD. I think you can import an existing AVCHD compilation, then hit Start and select Panasonic SDHC output. If you try it, let us know it works (or not).

Originally Posted by Doug G

Unfortunately, nope. I tried setting up a playlist of clips on my HF100 but it still didn't show up on the BD60 list. I'm guessing this functionality is specifically tied to the Panasonic line of camcorders and other mfrs are just going to be SOL.

But I have to say, even without the playlist just being able to pop in the SDHC card and play the video directly is sweet! I don't miss tape at all. Good riddance! And the quality this little 600-clam unit produces at 1080p/17Mbps is simply stunning even on my 104" screen from my RS1x.

The good news is that you can still use the chapter skip to forward to the next clip, and I was also pleased to see that the clips play seamlessly despite the warning in the user guide that there can be a small delay between them considered "normal". Before I archive my footage I plan to use a utility to join relevant clips together into a single large clip (which requires no transcoding so its pretty quick) so if the folks at Tivo ever enable their software to play AVCHD natively I'll have a nicely organized video library to stream over the network.

Posted by Bruce Watson: Prior to this I hadn't had any freezes at all, for about six weeks. But something changed in the last week.

For the first five weeks the BD60 feed directly into my 50V10 PDP over HDMI. That's all I had. Set the player to give me 1080/24p when available. Set the PDP to 96Hz when needed so it could play the 1080/24p signal the best way it has available. This combination gave me great pictures with no freezes.

Originally Posted by Bruce Watson

Got my first freeze from my BD60 last night. During the opening credits for... Sleeping Beauty. No, it wasn't repeatable. I think sound and visual froze, but I was so fascinated by the visual freeze that I don't remember what happened with sound. After 10 seconds or so sync reestablished and the system did fine for the next hour and a half or however long it ran.

Prior to this I hadn't had any freezes at all, for about six weeks. But something changed in the last week.

For the first five weeks the BD60 feed directly into my 50V10 PDP over HDMI. That's all I had. Set the player to give me 1080/24p when available. Set the PDP to 96Hz when needed so it could play the 1080/24p signal the best way it has available. This combination gave me great pictures with no freezes.

But the sound just sucked. As luck would have it I was alerted to an unreal deal on a Denon AVR-989 by another AVS member. Got it last week, now the BD60 connects to the 989 via HDMI, and the 989 connects to the PDP via HDMI. Same settings on both the BD60 and the 50V10. The only thing that changed was inserting the 989 in between.

Interesting that without the 989 in the loop I played like 20 movies without a freeze. Yet with the 989 in the loop I get a freeze with the second movie I try. Maybe it's just a coincidence? Hmmm....

This leaves me wondering if the BD60/80 is actually the problem. Maybe the problem is downstream from the player -- that something else is screwing with the HDMI signals just enough that on rare occasions some sync or other is lost and has to reestablish. I'm thinking that all the pieces are probably within tolerance, but that you might get a tolerance buildup that puts the system too close to the edge when you hook it all together.

In any case, I'm just adding my data point to the pile in hopes that a trend can be established.

Originally Posted by JJHXBR

I would say this has NOTHING to do with the random freezing.
Myself an many others, have BD80/60 players directly connected to their displays, and are still experiencing random freezes.
I have NEVER had my player connected to my receiver via HDMI, so there is NO loop involved at all.
The HDMI signal goes straight from the player and is feed directly into the display HDMI input.

Originally Posted by jewellgm

I second this. When I had my three (3!) players, all of them were connected directly to my Sony XBR4 via HDMI. Each and every one of them froze.

Originally Posted by Ben Franklin

The people most likely to have the correct explanation for the non repeatable freezes are the Panasonic engineers who designed the players. Have all recent attempts to talk to them ended in failure?

Originally Posted by ShowbizPizza

Just received my firmware update disc yesterday - I got 1.7. From what I have read, it is typical for Panasonic to be a few months behind in getting their most recent fw available on CD-R. Since 1.9 was released on the global site in July, I would guess they would have 1.9 available on CD-R once they have their North American website updated. My guess is that will probably take another 2 months or so.

Originally Posted by jewellgm

I second this. When I had my three (3!) players, all of them were connected directly to my Sony XBR4 via HDMI. Each and every one of them froze.

Originally Posted by moggy

I found 24p setting in player to be the culrit for pauses. See previous post on p99.
Would those who get pauses please try to determine whether the player was in 24p (film mode).
It would be nice to at least verify (or debunk) this facet.

For me the 24p modes causing pauses was incontrovertible!

Originally Posted by jewellgm

Yes, my players were all set to play 24p. However, your posts all mention how extremely repeatable all of your freezes were. For the rest of us, the freezes weren't repeatable. So while it would be interesting to hear what others say, it sounds like the problem you were seeing is different than ours.