Official Panasonic DMP-BD60/80 Owners Thread - Page 2

Originally Posted by peanut1015

First, this a quick response and was a quick comparison. I threw in Bolt yesterday and found the BD60 to be quite impressive. My surrounds were non stop and so were my subs. PQ was extremely sharp and smooth. Load times were seemingly slow, although acceptable, but I am a PS3 owner so I am spoiled. Then I watched the same scenes on my PS3 and decided the bd60 was abetter player, but there was no need to upgrade...Yet. All I wanted to know if I could justify the price tag, and sadly I cannot. As much as I wanted to. Do not get me wrong, the bd60 is a better blu ray player. I have been debating a standalone for some time now, and I will be still waiting. If I did not have a PS3, there was no question this is a remarkable player. Or, if you have some high end equipment and can see and hear subtle differences power to you. If you are like me and have a PS3, and are satisifed with it, just keep using it. If you want an outstanding blu ray experience with a standalone, this bd60 will do just fine. I want to make it clear to everyone I am not a fanboy of any type, I am just trying to help those who bought a PS3 for blu ray long ago and wondering if that is still a valid justification. I hope this helps!
**I did not compare SD upscaling, not something I need to consider
My setup is a Samsung 52a550 and Yamaha 663 receiver. Bose Acoustimass 15, 250 watt Infinity Sub.

Originally Posted by GRUNT3

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Originally Posted by peanut1015

Another note, most of you know the PS3 is a media server as well. It works very well, in fact. If you do not care about that, the bd60 is the way to go. Watch prices, one user stated it was purchased for around 50-60 less tjan msrp.

Originally Posted by TurboTalon

I've been considering the PS3vsBD60 for awhile.. I like the idea of using the PS3 as a media server and internet browser but it's more expensive and there are some games I'd like to have. I already have a 360 so can't really afford to be buying even more games.

Also, I think the BD60 uses A LOT less power.. but you say load times are slower? Is the BD60 at least more quiet than the PS3? I've been using my 360 to play DVDs for the last month and it's driving me nuts!

Originally Posted by rgroves

Thanks or the reviews on this BR Player. I'm really interested in it, since I'm having issues with my HTPC and BR playback.


I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I can't find it.....

Does the BD60 output 5.1 over the optical out?
Does the BD60 output 720P/1080i over Component?

The reason I ask, my Sony receiver does not have HDMI input/output, and my Dell 42" plasma only has 1 HDMI input (I'm sure it's not HDMI1.3 capable as it's 4 years old). At some point later this year or early next I'm going to get a new TV and receiver, but don't want to have to go back to SD DVD's in the meantime.

Thanks guys (and gals)....

Originally Posted by shinksma

All BD players will output 5.1 DD or DTS via optical. if they don't, there is something wrong with the player's design. DTS-HD MA and True HD will not go out over optical - you will get a regular DTS or DD downmix, I expect.

Similarly, 720p/1080i over component for BD is standard operation. Note that it will not output 720p/1080i for SD DVDs (unless non-copy-protected disks) - that's an industry standard rule.

AFAIK,

shinksma

Originally Posted by shinksma

All BD players will output 5.1 DD or DTS via optical. if they don't, there is something wrong with the player's design. DTS-HD MA and True HD will not go out over optical - you will get a regular DTS or DD downmix, I expect.

Similarly, 720p/1080i over component for BD is standard operation. Note that it will not output 720p/1080i for SD DVDs (unless non-copy-protected disks) - that's an industry standard rule.

AFAIK,

shinksma

Originally Posted by Frank W

I may have missed it but I didn't see any comments about stopping and re-starting the BD60. Will it re-start at the beginning or where you left off if you stop in the middle of a move?

Frank

Originally Posted by HiFiFun

It's a bit surprising the Kuro didn't let you see the extra clarity and detail over the PS3. It is there somewhere...
But you did notice the improved sound quality. The Toshiba XD-E500 was my favorite player for sound quality. Now the crown goes to Panasonic. It's a welcome contest to see which player can generate the widest, deepest, seamless, most immersive atmosphere. All with the least grain, most relaxing explosive dynamics and highest amount of believability. The PS3 has been accused of bring bright. It can be as it's a computer with six processors generating noise.
It's humorous as most students just know that all HDMI sound quality should be the same, and sound the same. Bits are bits I've written about the reasons this is not necessarily true (emissions and coupling), but there is always one stick-in-the-mud who will disagree forever.

In any event it's great to read of several owners simply noting the improved sound quality. I had owned the first DVD player to incorporate sending audio and video over HDMI, the Panasonic 97. It sounded terrible. For the first time, with the BD60 I can sit down and watch movies for hours on end as both the picture and sound quality are so high. Remarkable for a $300 player.
I did try the remaster which increases and generates more bass at each successive setting. My $3K JL Audio woofer easily bottoms out as bass levels are too hot. Otherwise switching the upsampling to 96KHz was seamless, but it did not obviously improve the sound quality. Maybe I should read the owner's manual to find out exactly what the remaster does!

One hint for the best sound quality: always delay the audio in the HDMI receiver, as this reclocks the audio data to reduce timing jitter and distortion

Originally Posted by HiFiFun

I own two of them, one is the home theater and the other is in the garage system. (Anyone with three or more players has, by definition a garage system). We all owe a debt of gratitude Toshiba for introducing 24p SD-DVD playback in these players. That being said the Panasonic image processing brings out an improved clarity and definition that the XA2 cannot touch. There is so much more to restore/recreate the image than legacy deinterlacing. Technology marches forward with the DB-60 now being half the price of the Xa2. One sweet deal.

Here is the improvement I see. DVD is improved substantially, but Blu-ray has finally widened its lead. Kung-Fu Panda had a lot of remarkable memorable scenes. The higher the fidelity, the more you remember.

Originally Posted by HiFiFun

That being said the Panasonic image processing brings out an improved clarity and definition that the XA2 cannot touch. There is so much more to restore/recreate the image than legacy deinterlacing. Technology marches forward with the DB-60 now being half the price of the Xa2. One sweet deal.

Lastly I don't see how the Oppo 83 can compete with the unique image processing provided by these Panasonic. Pricewise the tables are turned with the Oppo having a 40% higher MSRP. We won't even mention technical and human interface bugs.

Originally Posted by iove

Just pick this guy up (60), and it feels very much like the 35. From everything from processing and speed. I haven't spent much time with it but it's just greener 35.

Originally Posted by HDMaDnEsS

What do you mean greener?