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post #3781 of 8243
New to this forum and Pana BD, so many questions:

how do we use Downmix (audio: surround encoded vs stereo) setting? I have a true 5.1 system.

Should 2nd audio be set to "on"? Or does this relate only to if I'm using PIP? GB output, and should it be set to standard or enhanced?

UPDATE: I resubmitted this in the BDAudio Forum
post #3782 of 8243
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Originally Posted by dasher123 View Post

simonf:
what do you mean "allows" a 1080p signal? if it means that the TV "accepts", you still SEE 720p output on the screen I think - if the TVs native resolution is 720p, that's all you can see - the TV "accepts" the incoming 1080p signal and DOWNconverts it to 720 anyway, doesn't it?

To see 1080p, you need a 1080p full HD tv. anything else, even if it "allows" a 1080i/p signal will not display 1080p.

so what you are seeing is 720p, not 1080p , so I am not sure how you saw a "difference"....

Sure you can see a difference, because there is one less processing step involved if you feed the panny tv a 1080p signal because eveything gets upconverted to 1080p. If you feed the tv a 1080p signal it drops it back to 720p but the panny converter is very good. But if you feed the tv with a 720p signal it is upconverted to 1080p then back down to 720p. So yes, it can, and does, on my 720p Panasonic plasma, look better when fed by a 1080p or 1080i signal versus a 720p signal.

And no you will not see much of a difference in a 1080p set compared to a 720p set from a normal watching distance.
post #3783 of 8243
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Originally Posted by dudemar View Post

Sure you can see a difference, because there is one less processing step involved if you feed the panny tv a 1080p signal because eveything gets upconverted to 1080p.

are you talking about a 720p panny tv? if yes, then how can it upconvert anything to 1080p?
post #3784 of 8243
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Originally Posted by dasher123 View Post

are you talking about a 720p panny tv? if yes, then how can it upconvert anything to 1080p?

I told you what looks best on my tv. You can take it or leave it. I don't wish to take this off topic any more than it is and you're welcome to research this more on your own. Lots of info is available on this site.

From the panasonic concierge: "The processor is 1080p, so if you send a 720p signal, the TV converts it to 1080p for processing, then drops it to 768 for display. If you send a 1080i signal, it's deinterlaced then downconverted to 768."

If that's not acceptable to you then you can seek them out and argue it with them.
post #3785 of 8243
Firmware 2.1 for the bd60 is available via network; I just had a completed update. Don't know what's in it but the update wasn't available about 4 hrs ago!

Pretty quick for 2.1 to arrive...
post #3786 of 8243
I'm leaning towards purchasing a BD-80 and have a question about fan noise. If you have a BD60 or 80, from your seating position how would you describe the fan noise from the following: loud as an F-15 in afterburner, moderate, fairly quiet, audible only during quiet passages, or inaudible?

Thank you!
post #3787 of 8243
My BD60 just updated to FW 2.1, but i can't find any information about that specific firmware, can anyone elaborate?
post #3788 of 8243
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Originally Posted by citrus View Post

Firmware 2.1 for the bd60 is available via network; I just had a completed update. Don't know what's in it but the update wasn't available about 4 hrs ago!

Pretty quick for 2.1 to arrive...

Tell me about it. I only just upgraded to 2.0 a week or two ago. Now there's 2.1? Some one do tell us what's in it. Is it worth going to the trouble?

When I wanted to upgrade to 1.9 Panasonic Canada sent me first a 1.7 disc. I didn't know if I had an earlier version. Tried to install that. Jammed my BD60. Took it to authorized repair shop. Was told not to upgrade if not absolutely needed or I'd be asking for trouble. Claims to have seen many cases. With 2.0...so far no troubles. Knock on wood.

So if 2.1 isn't worth it...
post #3789 of 8243
2.1 is just another DVD Playability update for most.

1. DVD Playability
2. (Middle East only) Upgrade of VIERA CAST (since 2009/10/13)
Update necessary for VIERA CAST since 2009/10/13

edit: btw, I've now had 3 freezes since update to 2.0.
post #3790 of 8243
Hey guys,
I just bought a panny BD605 from Sam's and I already did the 1.7 firmware update.
I now see that the BD60 has firmware 2.0 out. Everything that I read says that the 605 and the 60 are the same machine. I already downloaded the 2.0 firmware, but before I try to update the player I wanted to be sure that the 605 and the 60 are the same and the 2.0 firmware will work ?
What are your opinions ? I just want to be sure before I proceed.
I just looked at the download and it is firmware 2.1 instead of 2.0..........they must have just came out with it. Same question about it though.

Thanks,
BigOc90
post #3791 of 8243
I also didnt notice any freezing before updating to 2.0 mine was 1.7 out of box i think
just updated to 2.1
hope it dosnt kill it
post #3792 of 8243
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Originally Posted by BigOc90 View Post

Hey guys,
I just bought a panny BD605 from Sam's and I already did the 1.7 firmware update.
I now see that the BD60 has firmware 2.0 out. Everything that I read says that the 605 and the 60 are the same machine. I already downloaded the 2.0 firmware, but before I try to update the player I wanted to be sure that the 605 and the 60 are the same and the 2.0 firmware will work ?
What are your opinions ? I just want to be sure before I proceed.
I just looked at the download and it is firmware 2.1 instead of 2.0..........they must have just came out with it. Same question about it though.

Thanks,
BigOc90

Foxbat121 provided this answer when I asked the same question a couple of weeks ago

BD60: normal model;
BD605: Costco and Sams club model
BD601: Walmart model

They are all the same thing. On all panny products, K stands for Black color.
post #3793 of 8243
No freezes for me so far, regardless of fw version. Just updated to 2.1.
post #3794 of 8243
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmu77 View Post

2.1 is just another DVD Playability update for most.

1. DVD Playability
2. (Middle East only) Upgrade of VIERA CAST (since 2009/10/13)
Update necessary for VIERA CAST since 2009/10/13

edit: btw, I've now had 3 freezes since update to 2.0.

Thanks for the info. At that rate I think I'll skip this one. Wait for something major. If everything works why mess with it.
post #3795 of 8243
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Originally Posted by Alex F. View Post

I'm leaning towards purchasing a BD-80 and have a question about fan noise. If you have a BD60 or 80, from your seating position how would you describe the fan noise from the following: loud as an F-15 in afterburner, moderate, fairly quiet, audible only during quiet passages, or inaudible?

Thank you!

My BD60 is silent when running. There is just a tiny bit of mechanism noise when it's switching between previews, but during the movie itself it's dead quiet.
post #3796 of 8243
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Originally Posted by dasher123 View Post

wonder why the eject time is longer on DB80 with QS enabled?

No idea, but play time was faster. Maybe they could trade off between the two.

Can anyone else confirm that they see the same thing?

Mike
post #3797 of 8243
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Originally Posted by MidnightWatcher View Post

No freezes for me so far, regardless of fw version. Just updated to 2.1.

Try the movie 'Vanishing Point' and you will get the freezes.
So far that is the only disc that gave me issues and Crank 2. Crank 2 played fine after I inserted a 2 GB SD card.
post #3798 of 8243
According to a FAQ on the Panny site, Crank 2 requires an SD card be inserted for play.
post #3799 of 8243
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Originally Posted by myron243 View Post

Foxbat121 provided this answer when I asked the same question a couple of weeks ago

BD60: normal model;
BD605: Costco and Sams club model
BD601: Walmart model

They are all the same thing. On all panny products, K stands for Black color.

Thanks for the reply ! I was pretty sure about that, but before I update I wanted to make sure.
post #3800 of 8243
I'm posting here because my BD80 is an integral part of the "food chain" involved with my problem/issue. I apologize in advance if this is not the best place for this post. I just finished authoring an AVCHD-lite-based 720p video in Adobe Premiere Pro CS4. I exported the sequence to MPEG2 Blu-Ray (BR) file(s) at 720p/59.94fps. I then imported the MPEG2 BR files into an Encore CS4 project with matching settings (720p/59.94fps) and burned (w/no menus) the project to a Verbatim BD-R using an LG BH08LS20 BR burner with no evident hiccups. The BD80 recognized the disc, loaded it "normally" and started to play (the sound was fine), except my Sony KDS-50A2000 tv only displayed the message, "Unsupported signal. Check your device output." I never have any problems with commercial videos or burned DVDs. Question Does anyone know of any settings in the above-described "chain" (e.g., BD80 settings) that may have caused this and what those settings should be? Thanks in advance.
post #3801 of 8243
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex F. View Post

I'm leaning towards purchasing a BD-80 and have a question about fan noise. If you have a BD60 or 80, from your seating position how would you describe the fan noise from the following: loud as an F-15 in afterburner, moderate, fairly quiet, audible only during quiet passages, or inaudible?

Thank you!

Mine is silent also. Can't hear a thing !
post #3802 of 8243
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Originally Posted by BigOc90 View Post

Mine is silent also. Can't hear a thing !

Ditto, neither my Panny BD80 or 58V10 make a peep.
post #3803 of 8243
I just installed 2.1 and ran new timing tests.

Code:
Test     - Eject- Play
BD55     - 19.6 - 29.8
BD80 1.5 - 23.0 - 32.7
BD80 2.0 -  8.7 - 32.6
BD80 QS  - 11.0 - 26.1
BD80 2.1 -  8.1 - 28.6
BD80 QS  - 11.0 - 27.8
So 2.1 is even quicker than 2.0. In fact, I can't see any reason to use Quick Start at all now.

Mike
post #3804 of 8243
I have a BD60. Silent.

My PS3 Slim...DAMN noisy when playing BD...disappointing!! So I only use it for gaming. Assumed the PS3's were quiet when playing BD's.
post #3805 of 8243
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Originally Posted by dasher123 View Post

are you talking about a 720p panny tv? if yes, then how can it upconvert anything to 1080p?

Most of Panny 720p TV released last couple years can accept 1080p via HDMI.
post #3806 of 8243
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Originally Posted by BDD888 View Post

I have a BD60. Silent.

My PS3 Slim...DAMN noisy when playing BD...disappointing!! So I only use it for gaming. Assumed the PS3's were quiet when playing BD's.

I love this machine ! One of my old HD dvd players ( HD-A1 ) was very noisy, and my S301 Sony blue-ray was a little noisy also. I can hardly tell the panny is even running
post #3807 of 8243
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Most of Panny 720p TV released last couple years can accept 1080p via HDMI.

Sure they'll accept it but they will then downconvert it to 720 since they can not display 1080p.
post #3808 of 8243
Thank you one and all for your comments regarding fan noise. Delighted to learn it is quiet. I ended up ordering a BD60 a few minutes ago from Crutchfield ($161 including shipping).

Again, thank you.
post #3809 of 8243
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Originally Posted by Impala1ss View Post

Sure they'll accept it but they will then downconvert it to 720 since they can not display 1080p.

Yeah. But remember most Panny 720p Plasmas are actually 768p, not 720p. So, scale down from 1080p is better than scale up from 720p. And most of these TVs don't have the excellent de-interlacer like BD60/80 has, so 1080i isn't really a good signal either.
post #3810 of 8243
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex F. View Post

Thank you one and all for your comments regarding fan noise. Delighted to learn it is quiet. I ended up ordering a BD60 a few minutes ago from Crutchfield ($161 including shipping).

Again, thank you.

Silent here as well. Don't worry about noise from the unit.
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