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post #4981 of 8197
The latest firmware update for the BD60 and the BD80 on the Panasonic site is 2.1. What is version 2.2 that y'all have been discussing?
post #4982 of 8197
So, bookmarking is a function of Blu-Ray disc. Not many discs allow for bookmarking. Thus no bookmarking. Resume Play is a function of the Blu-Ray player. Several players allow for resume play, but none known allow for resume play with BD-J. Most newer Blu-Ray discs are BD-J.

To summarize, if you want to stop your movie using the stop button (no pause button), go pop some popcorn, and then come back and resume the movie where you left off, basically, you can't. Do I have that about right? Still love my blu-ray, but that sucks.


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Originally Posted by moxie1617 View Post

Bookmarking is a function of the Blu-Ray disc. Resume play is a function of the player.

The BD 60/80 will remember one DVD or non-Java Blu-Ray for resume play.

For resume play, if you hit stop and power off it will remember your play position but only for one disc. If you hit stop twice or eject the disc it won't remember your play position.

I have only seen one Blu-Ray disc so far that had bookmarking available. However, I never tried it out and can't remember the name of the movie.

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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

None I know of for BD-J. Panny, and most other players, can resume from non-Java BD-V.
post #4983 of 8197
I also have played only one blu-ray disc that had a menu item for book marking, a documentary called Food, Inc.. It was a Netflix rental so I only tried the feature once. I think you could have up to 6 bookmarks. I could see somebody who bought the disc, and doing research on the US food industry, using that many bookmarks since there were several bonus tracks.
post #4984 of 8197
I remember some blurays titles would have a resume place.. where it would ask if you want to start where you had ended. it was on ID4, sin city, up, and I think monsters inc.

Jacob
post #4985 of 8197
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

So, bookmarking is a function of Blu-Ray disc. Not many discs allow for bookmarking. Thus no bookmarking. Resume Play is a function of the Blu-Ray player. Several players allow for resume play, but none known allow for resume play with BD-J. Most newer Blu-Ray discs are BD-J.

To summarize, if you want to stop your movie using the stop button (no pause button), go pop some popcorn, and then come back and resume the movie where you left off, basically, you can't. Do I have that about right? Still love my blu-ray, but that sucks.

You got it right but you're too late to complain the lack of resume play HD DVD was the same situation but fortunately for HD DVD, all players, not disc, must support bookmarking feature.

On the BD side, not only bookmarking is disc specific. How to bookmark and replay from bookmark is also disc specific. This essentially makes bookmarking feature useless because you never know which of the four colored buttons are for bookmarking and resume.
post #4986 of 8197
Curiously, did anyone else have trouble playing "Bruno"? I rented it yesterday, put it in, and it would show the menu for about a second, then the screen would go black and do nothing. I pulled the SD card, made sure the BD-LIVE was disabled, but still no go. The disc is perfectly clean and has not scratches. Other discs played fine. I have updated to the latest firmware. So, anyone else?
post #4987 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

I remember some blurays titles would have a resume place.. where it would ask if you want to start where you had ended. it was on ID4, sin city, up, and I think monsters inc.

Jacob

Those are so-called non-BD-J discs.
post #4988 of 8197
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

a.) They make the higher end piece (BD80) in shorter quantities.
b.) Consumer Reports "Best Buy."

I've heard some dealers will be getting more BD80s before the end of the year but probably not in large quantities.

Farewell, BD80, I barely knew ye!

-CB

Thanks Chris.
FYI, looks like the BD80s are back in stock at Panasonic site.
post #4989 of 8197
Well picked up a Panasonic 60 I already have a sony 550 but thought i'd try the Panny because I couldnt resist the price and read it has great audio so thought i'd compare it to my Sony. So far im liking it except i've spent over a day trying to get it to let me change the 24p from off to on and its not letting me i've also done a search on this thread and tried everything I've read here and in the owners manual and it wont let me . My sony does it and even tried bypassing my pioneer elite 94 and running it directly to my 1080p tv and no luck I also have updated the firmware to 2.2 not that it would make a difference but tried anyway. Im getting DTS HD audio and picture looks great but I must say its frustrating enough im about ready to take it back. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated because I do like it and really dont want to return it . Is the 24p just effect the picture quality ? I mean the pic looks great and equal to my sony as far as I can see. But its really fustrating like I said not being able to turn the 24 p on . Well thanks in advance for all and any help
post #4990 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Well picked up a Panasonic 60 I already have a sony 550 but thought i'd try the Panny because I couldnt resist the price and read it has great audio so thought i'd compare it to my Sony. So far im liking it except i've spent over a day trying to get it to let me change the 24p from off to on and its not letting me i've also done a search on this thread and tried everything I've read here and in the owners manual and it wont let me . My sony does it and even tried bypassing my pioneer elite 94 and running it directly to my 1080p tv and no luck I also have updated the firmware to 2.2 not that it would make a difference but tried anyway. Im getting DTS HD audio and picture looks great but I must say its frustrating enough im about ready to take it back. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated because I do like it and really dont want to return it . Is the 24p just effect the picture quality ? I mean the pic looks great and equal to my sony as far as I can see. But its really fustrating like I said not being able to turn the 24 p on . Well thanks in advance for all and any help

It would help if we knew what display device you have. If it does not truly support 1080p/24 properly at an even multiple of 24 (48, 72, 96, 120) it really doesn't matter of 24p is off or on. Many 60hz displays will accept a 1080p/24 but then convert it back to 60hz. Some displays have also been shown to have an improper edid table even if they do accept 1080p/24. Panasonic will not over ride the table to prevent problems.

S~
post #4991 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Well picked up a Panasonic 60 I already have a sony 550 but thought i'd try the Panny because I couldnt resist the price and read it has great audio so thought i'd compare it to my Sony. So far im liking it except i've spent over a day trying to get it to let me change the 24p from off to on and its not letting me i've also done a search on this thread and tried everything I've read here and in the owners manual and it wont let me . My sony does it and even tried bypassing my pioneer elite 94 and running it directly to my 1080p tv and no luck I also have updated the firmware to 2.2 not that it would make a difference but tried anyway. Im getting DTS HD audio and picture looks great but I must say its frustrating enough im about ready to take it back. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated because I do like it and really dont want to return it . Is the 24p just effect the picture quality ? I mean the pic looks great and equal to my sony as far as I can see. But its really fustrating like I said not being able to turn the 24 p on . Well thanks in advance for all and any help

Not all 1080p sets support 24 frames per second. If it doesn't support it, the BD won't pass it.

Regarding your Sony, I don't know if it will try to pass 24p even if your TV does not support.
post #4992 of 8197
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Originally Posted by Bonny T-100 View Post

The latest firmware update for the BD60 and the BD80 on the Panasonic site is 2.1. What is version 2.2 that y'all have been discussing?

You have to go through the international site of Panasonic and then input North America. The USA site is the last to get changed with the latest upgrade
post #4993 of 8197
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

It would help if we knew what display device you have. If it does not truly support 1080p/24 properly at an even multiple of 24 (48, 72, 96, 120) it really doesn't matter of 24p is off or on. Many 60hz displays will accept a 1080p/24 but then convert it back to 60hz. Some displays have also been shown to have an improper edid table even if they do accept 1080p/24. Panasonic will not over ride the table to prevent problems.

S~

Thanks for the reply and my Display is a JVC MODEL# HD-61FC97 , Thats a good point, all I know is its a 1080p and i've had it for a couple of years . Im looking threw my owners manual now and cant seem to find if it will accept a 24p signal .
post #4994 of 8197
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Originally Posted by lwien123 View Post

Not all 1080p sets support 24 frames per second. If it doesn't support it, the BD won't pass it.

Regarding your Sony, I don't know if it will try to pass 24p even if your TV does not support.

Not sure but it lets me change it to 24p on the Sony setup menu, I wonder if I thought I was getting 24p and all this time and wasnt .
post #4995 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Thanks for the reply and my Display is a JVC MODEL# HD-61FC97 , Thats a good point, all I know is its a 1080p and i've had it for a couple of years . Im looking threw my owners manual now and cant seem to find if it will accept a 24p signal .

Your set is 60hz. JVC's don't correctly display at even multiples of 24 (unless it's their projector line). Even their 120hz sets convert to 60 before doubling to 120.

S~
post #4996 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Not sure but it lets me change it to 24p on the Sony setup menu, I wonder if I thought I was getting 24p and all this time and wasnt .

Sony may force the issue. Your set applies 3:2 pulldodwn to turn it back to 60hz.

S~
post #4997 of 8197
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Your set is 60hz. JVC's don't correctly display at even multiples of 24 (unless it's their projector line). Even their 120hz sets convert to 60 before doubling to 120.

S~

Thankyou !!!! atleast I know it wasnt by user setup error lol . Early next year I was planning to upgrade my Display to a led or plasma so I will make sure it can accept 24p . Thanks again for your help.
post #4998 of 8197
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Sony may force the issue. Your set applies 3:2 pulldodwn to turn it back to 60hz.

S~

Your probably wright and that makes sense now why the sony was allowing me to change it to 24p on the setup menu .
post #4999 of 8197
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Originally Posted by TheFactor View Post

Thankyou !!!! atleast I know it wasnt by user setup error lol . Early next year I was planning to upgrade my Display to a led or plasma so I will make sure it can accept 24p . Thanks again for your help.

Make sure it displays properly not just accepts 24p.

S~
post #5000 of 8197
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Make sure it displays properly not just accepts 24p.

S~

Good point I dont want to end up in the same situation thats for sure after spending thousands on a display upgrade, Thankyou Again for your help
post #5001 of 8197
Several general answers below. Has anyone on here actually connected wirelessly? Can you share some detail on how you connected? Will the pannny allow you to use a third-party USB adapter to connect to your wireless network? The people at Fry's did not know the answer to that (although they said Samsung's required you to use their proprietary hardware to connect through the usb port).

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Originally Posted by DLMN8R View Post

You need a wireless "receiver" with ethernet outputs. I don't beleive a router will do what you want.

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Originally Posted by ap1 View Post

You can do it either way wired or wireless. For wireless option your routers must support WDS mode, it includes Verizon router.

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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Nope. It won't work. Unless you plan to mod both routers with 3rd party firmwares. You need a wireless bridge or gaming adapter.



WDS mode has nothing to do with it.
post #5002 of 8197
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Several general answers below. Has anyone on here actually connected wirelessly? Can you share some detail on how you connected? Will the pannny allow you to use a third-party USB adapter to connect to your wireless network? The people at Fry's did not know the answer to that (although they said Samsung's required you to use their proprietary hardware to connect through the usb port).

Any TV that has a LAN port, you can hook to a "wireless bridge" to connect wirelessly to your router.

Wireless Bridge.
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WET54G
post #5003 of 8197
Hi everyone,
I paired up my BD60 with the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K receiver. My HD television does not have HDMI inputs though. I hooked up my BD60 to the receiver via HDMI for sound and then used component connection for video. When I do this, I get sound but no picture. The manual for my receiver says that the reciever is able to do this if the DVD player can send seperate signals component video and HDMI sound. Does anyone know if this can be done with the BD60? If so, is there a settng that I need to change? Any help would be appreciated. I'm sure I can hook up digital optical sound if I have to, but I would rather have the HDMI sound if possible.

thanks,
Kent
post #5004 of 8197
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

Several general answers below. Has anyone on here actually connected wirelessly? Can you share some detail on how you connected? Will the pannny allow you to use a third-party USB adapter to connect to your wireless network? The people at Fry's did not know the answer to that (although they said Samsung's required you to use their proprietary hardware to connect through the usb port).

USB wireless adapter requires drivers to work. Unless you can mod your Panny's firmware to add the specific driver (which you have to write your own as well) for your USB adapter, there is no way for it to work. USB wireless adapters are for PC use only.

Easiest way to do what you want to is either a Wireless Bridge or Wireless gaming adapter and be prepared to pay $$ (they are more expensive than a typical router).

I'd suggest get a multi-port wireless bridge so that you can connect more than one device on line (like game console, network streaming devices etc.)
post #5005 of 8197
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Originally Posted by internet seeker View Post

To summarize, if you want to stop your movie using the stop button (no pause button), go pop some popcorn, and then come back and resume the movie where you left off, basically, you can't. Do I have that about right? Still love my blu-ray, but that sucks.

Yup. No resume play on BD-J discs. I popped in "The Patriot" last night, hit the green button and it said "bookmark saved." The green button, sometimes labeled "B" (for A,B,C,D) and sometimes labeled "G" (R,G,B,Y) is typically the button that stores a bookmark on compatible BD-J discs.

-CB
post #5006 of 8197
I just got my DMP-BD60 and hooked up to my 7 year-old Kenwood receiver via an optical connection. My video is hooked up to my Sony LCD via HDMI. Last night, I watched "Up" but no audio came through the receiver during the movie. I got audio during the previews, menu screen, and the intro Blu-Ray demonstration part right before the movie starts. I have turned off the HDMI audio output. I've tried switching the digital output from bitstream to PCM.

Am I getting no audio because my Kenwood receiver just can't decode whatever the output of "Up" is? (When I play the DVD version, I get audio with the digital output set to bitstream.)
post #5007 of 8197
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Originally Posted by ap1 View Post

My DVD-A player sends 5.1 PCM @ 96kHz (at least this is what receiver reports). So I see three possible cases:

1. Receiver is not capable to accept 7.1 PCM @ 96kHz
2. Player can not decode DTS-MA HD with samples at more than 48kHz
3. Something is wrong in audio track structure, which prevents BD60 from decoding it correctly.

I will try to rent or buy BR disk with 96kHz lossless audio. Just want to know if someone already had experience with it.

If BD60 indeed can not decode high bitrate audio, then it should be a warning to anyone who has older receiver (without DTS-HD decoder), and plans to buy it, expecting player to send lossless PCM at full resolution.

I've tested multiple 24/96 DTS-HD MA titles on the BD60/BD70V/BD80. All decode to 24/96 PCM properly when the player is set to DTS=PCM. Just now I also did a test of "Chris Botti in Boston" which is Dolby TrueHD 7.1 24/96 and this was extracted properly to PCM 24/96 7.1 too according to the display on my Integra pre/pro. So, yeah, the BD60 and BD80 don't have any problems decoding 24/96 tracks to PCM 24/96 as long as you keep PCM Downconversion set to OFF as it should be.

What I *can't* test, because it's still pretty uncommon, is specifically a 7.1 channel 24/96 DTS-HD Master Audio track. According to Blu-raystats.com, the only two DTS-HD MA 7.1 24/96 recordings are two concerts, one by Grieg and one by Tchaichovsky, neither of which I have on Blu-ray. I had hoped there might be 7.1/24/96 tracks on the DTS-HD Blu-ray sampler disc but oddly enough, they have 5.0 channel 24/96 and 7.1 channel 24/48 but no clips that are in 24/96 DTS-HD MA 7.1.

I have tested 5.0 and 5.1 24/96 DTS-HD MA tracks and these are decoded by the player to PCM 24/96 7.1 which we know is what the player does intentionally, "amplifying" 5.0, 5.1 and 6.1 DTS-HD tracks to PCM 7.1.

But if you want to test a store-bought 7.1/24/96 DTS-HD Master Audio disc, you're probably going to need to get a hold of one of these:
  • Grieg - Piano Concerto / Symphonic Dances / In Autumn
  • Tchaikovsky - Piano Concertos Nos. 1&3

In fact, I might just order one of these for my own test suite...

-CB
post #5008 of 8197
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Originally Posted by pup975 View Post

I just got my DMP-BD60 and hooked up to my 7 year-old Kenwood receiver via an optical connection. My video is hooked up to my Sony LCD via HDMI. Last night, I watched "Up" but no audio came through the receiver during the movie. I got audio during the previews, menu screen, and the intro Blu-Ray demonstration part right before the movie starts. I have turned off the HDMI audio output. I've tried switching the digital output from bitstream to PCM.

Am I getting no audio because my Kenwood receiver just can't decode whatever the output of "Up" is? (When I play the DVD version, I get audio with the digital output set to bitstream.)

The UP DVD is Dolby Digital 5.1. The UP Blu-ray is DTS-HD MA which should output a standard DTS core 1.5 MBPS soundtrack over optical. Does your Kenwood receiver support DTS decoding?

If you switch to DTS=PCM you should get sound, even without a DTS decoder, but it will be two-channel (not the 5.1 of the track). If you switch to PCM, you may also need to switch PCM downconversion to ON depending on the capabilities of your Kenwood.

-CB
post #5009 of 8197
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Originally Posted by zkasleepy1 View Post

Hi everyone,
I paired up my BD60 with the Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K receiver. My HD television does not have HDMI inputs though. I hooked up my BD60 to the receiver via HDMI for sound and then used component connection for video. When I do this, I get sound but no picture. The manual for my receiver says that the reciever is able to do this if the DVD player can send seperate signals component video and HDMI sound. Does anyone know if this can be done with the BD60? If so, is there a settng that I need to change? Any help would be appreciated. I'm sure I can hook up digital optical sound if I have to, but I would rather have the HDMI sound if possible.

thanks,
Kent

I believe you should be able to but I could stand corrected just make sure in the setup menu on the BD60 that you change it to component vs HDMI for video . I know it will do HDMI for video and component for audio when I was experimenting with mine but ultimately I ended up im running HDMI threw my AVR to my Display for audio and video .
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Originally Posted by marandi73 View Post

Ok, I'll keep trying, perhaps I'll get lucky and somebody will answer the question I posted earlier: Is there a way to prevent bd80 from stretching divx files?. They have the right ratio, they look good on the computer, but once you try to see them on the player via usb, they get stretched out. Please?

Is there anyone out there that can help this person?

Jeff
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