Official Panasonic DMP-BD60/80 Owners Thread - Page 178

Do you have a high bandwidth connection? I only occasionally go to Amazon VOD and even though I have a cable connection, it doesn't seem to work right. I just watched several 2 minute previews of HD movies and it had to stop in the middle of each one to load the rest. If it wasn't high bandwidth, I probably wouldn't be able to watch at all.

I don't understand how much bandwidth would be needed to just get the registration code ?!

I'd suggest larrude unplug the power of the player for a few minutes and try again. I didn't see you mention it, did you upgrade to the latest firmware already?

It doesn't help Larrude but I have 3 Panasonic devices with access to Amazon VOD. A 65V10 and a 42G10 TVs and the BD60. The software seems to be the same on all 3 devices and it says "Beta" on the logo. My internet cnnection is 18 mbps (U-Verse DSL) and I can stream 2 HD movies from Amazon in HD at the same time. The problem is , it doesn't stay at the highest speed. Sometimes I stream 1 movie, nothing else on the network and I get 1 bar only. It switches speed several times during a movie, very annoying.

It shows that either the Panasonic software is buggy or the Amazon servers are not up to the task. I'm dying to get a Roku box and test to see if I can get a stable connection. The way it is now, Amazon VOD is useless to me.

With a PS3, hooked to the very same ethernet switch as the BD60, I can stream videos from my PC at 25mbps without a single glitch. It's not a network issue.

Larrude, did you get your problem solved? I'm experiencing exactly the same issue. I just bought my BD-60 and was able to watch some AMAZON VOD trailers. Next day I got the yellow screen or the random lines. Everything else in Vieracast is working perfectly.

By the way, I also upgraded my BD player to the latest firmware (2.2) after I pulled it out of the box and connected it to the internet. Now that I think about it, I never restarted the BD player after the upgrade and I was able to watch Amazon VOD. THe next day, after I turned on my BD again is when my problems started. Could this be the issue?

I failed to see your reasoning. Your issue seems to be with your ISP, not local networking unless you can prove that your PS3 streams the same content from internet without problem (try Netflix on PS3).

You can have 100mbps internet connection from your ISP. But that means nothing. All it means is that you can achive 100mbps (or 18mbps in your case) from your home to your street box at best. That's about it. From there on, your connection is shared with your neighbors and others via AT&T's backbone and finally reach Amazon VOD server on someone else's backbone. Your own 18mbps connection has very little impact on this long route.

I disagree. 18 mbps is the speed limit, of course, but I test my connection every day and the lowest I have ever seen was 13 mbps. I use speedtest.net from servers all over the country. Amazon VOD is only 720p and it needs 2.5 mbps minimum. I was just trying to say that I have more than enough internet speed for any of these streaming video products. Netflix works great with my PS3 using the same ethernet switch. The ATT U-Verse switch is less than 1000 feet from my unit. Netflix HD was working fine even with my old 6 mbps connection.

I am a software engineer , although never had an experience with video streaming I have a good idea how things work. The BD 60 has a decent buffer when streaming from VOD, about a full minute with HD (you can do the test just unplugging the cat5 cable and waiting for the video to stop ) . Any interference on the ISP normally don't last that long.

My hunch is that when the speed drops , even if it's still much higher than the necessary, the software re-syncs to a lower quality , period.

The only way to prove the Panasonic software is buggy is to hook up a Roku or Sony 460 on the same ethernet cable and do the test.

BTW, Do you get a stable HD connection with your BD60 ?

If netflix works for you, you should be fine.


Never watched anything on Amazon VOD mostly because I don't feel like pay extra for something I already got from netflix for free.

Now back to IB disc BD-Live issue. I did try to play the disc again tonight when I found out that my network cable has been disconnected for some reason for a while now. With network cable re-connected and a 4GB SD card, the movie just freezes after FBI warning after couple minutes of extra downloading that forces me to watch useless iPhone app. So, it appears BD 60 firmware 2.2 is broken on BD-Live titles (more than a few titles now reportedly need to remove SD card in order to play). I'll try my other BD-Live discs to see what happens.

ok just picked up a 60, tried to play divx, no go.

put in disk, says incompatible
put in usb, all that comes up is jpeg no other choice
put in sd card same as usb, have multible types of divx.

these play in xbox 360 no problem, am i missing something? do i have to setup something?

Pretty sure Divx is only supported on the BD80, not supported on the 60.

well that will piss me off considering stupid store advertises it as divx and thats reason i bought it.

I agree 100%. I would never pay 1 cent for any of these low quality VOD. I got $130.00 credit from Amazon because I bought a panasonic TV and a BD60 (actually the BD60 was also free with the TV). I do use Netflix streaming, though. Picture is not great but there is a lot of old movies I wanted to watch again and it's free since I already pay for the disks.

I have Time Warner RoadRunner and an older Linksys 10/100 wireless router. My Panasonic 850 plasma and BD-60 are both wired to the router with Cat5e. I don't have an Amazon VOD account yet, but I have tried playing several 2 minute previews. Mostly HD. It looks pretty good. It's been showing me all green bars or all blue bars (HD). If you find something in HD that is free, let me know and I will test it.

As for the sound, I looked them up online first and you scroll down the page and it will show the sound formats. I'm pretty sure we use the "Connected Device" group. It's strange that most of the HD movies are not 5.1, but some of the HD TV Shows are. I played one that was suppose to be HD/5.1 (Heros Season#4 I think) and set the amp to "Direct" (not sure if that is right). Anyway, on direct only the front speakers were on. I played a different HD/5.1 TV Show and I'm not sure if I selected it or the amp did, but it was on Dolby PLIIx ... and all the speakers were on and it seemed to be 5.1.

I use BlockBuster-By-Mail and we can also get HD/5.1 OnDemand from TW (and of course we have all sorts of HBO channels, etc.), so I really have no need for Amazon VOD. However, I would like to make sure it's working properly. The wife might eventually use it to grab a missed TV Show episode here-or-there.

I was at a client's residence the other day and he had a 2wire AT&T modem/router. For some reason, it was blocking some port traffic on the "local" or safe side of the router (strange), so I had to open some pin-holes. I don't think there is any ports to open for VieraCast, but the AT&T router might have some QoS settings that might help (not sure ... I wasn't looking for that).

Good luck and let me know if you find a good free test file (preferably HD and 5.1 or better).

As of 9:30 am this Saturday morning, YES, all is fine. The firmware had been updated first thing after taking the unit out of the box.My interenet spped tests show:

I took the advise of Foxbat121 and unplugged the unit and tried again - VOILA, all works well.

Thanks for the comments - you all have been a big help.

Would I be correct in saying I only have YouTube and the photo site on my BD60 as it is a UK model?

I've had this problem. The Funny People disc wouldn't get past the FBI screen until I removed the SD card. Public Enemies was the same way.

Mine is always connected to the network and the firmware is current.

I noticed the firmware version went from 2.1 to 2.2 on the Panasonic site. But the description of the firmware didn't change, the "Issues addressed" is the same as 2.1, I think they just forgot to list the new issue addresses in 2.2.


http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...DMP-BD60K.D#ts

Panasonic fixed the random freeze nad now we have the BD Live freeze. Great ! This is my last Panny player and I only got this because it came for free with my TV.

BD live is a gimmick - (a PITA too).
if you got it free, can't complain much.

Can I use a DVD-R disc to update my firmware? I just looked on pannys website instructions and it only mentions cd-r disc.

I only used CDs.

I am no expert, but Netflix streaming, since I began using it this past year in Feb. 2009 on a Sammy-2500, and now a ROKU player(both connected via Belkin Powerline adapters with 200Mbps max download. My TW Roadrunner is only 2.0Mbps/download MAX) has been almost FLAWLESS, while the Amazon VOD, even though I did the previews only, still had to rebuffer nearly ALL THE TIME.

So IMHO, it is a Amazon VOD issue with their servers/software/firmware. It might not be ready for primetime, and was "thrown up" in order to begin to compete with Netflix, which I am guessing, has a "stranglehold" on the streaming market.

Netflix was ready for primetime when it came to streaming. At least this has been my experience. The ROKU player did buffer a few times(I have only had it a week), but not even close to the amount of re-buffering I got on Amazon VOD, and that is just with 2 minute previews, and the like.

Can't beat "FREE STREAMING" from Netflix as part of their DVD packages. Pay $11.65/month for 1 out at a time(Blu-Ray included) and get unlimited streaming too boot. Can't beat that.

Of course that will change in the future(streaming will become a separate charge down the road), but I will this horse until it does.

I just hope ROKU eventually makes a deal with HULU and some of these other awesome streaming sites.

Thought I read somewhere on there Firmware downloading procedures that you cant and can only use a cd-r unless you do a live update via internet.

That's odd. But still, why would you want to use a DVD? I already hated wasting an entire CD for a few megabyte file to update my Blu Ray player, and I have 2 dozen of the things that have been sitting unused on my desk for 2 or 3 years.
It would be 10x better if it would recognize the file from USB or a SD card

I agree

read about the freezing issue, but I think I have a different issue.

after 7 mos. of flawless operation, my bd 60 has stopped reading discs. when
i put a br in, the machine just keeps saying reading, and if i hit play the tv screen says this operation is not available. tried 3 different br discs and same
result with all 3.

bd 60 connected to pio 111 via hdmi and a br screen comes up on the set so i don't think it is the connection.

I have not updated the firmware since purchase. could it be that simple to solve the problem or do i have a defective unit.

any suggestions?

talked to tech support. tried to play an older br movie and same issue.
they said firmware won't work since bd 60 is not reading at all so it won't be sble to read firmware disk.

have to drive 35 miles to nearest service center or ship it there.

looks like a hardware issue.

crap, i thought these units were good.

mine is piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amazon VOD HD needs at least 2.5 mbps, your connection is not fast enough. I have the same unstable Amazon VOD with a much faster connection and I have to agree that something is not working as it should on their side. Netflix has been always flawless but the picture quality on Amazon is better in HD.

Well decided to return my Panny 60 today , I bought it because I couldnt resist its bang for the buck and great reviews on this thread . Well it lived up to its expectations but I already have two Sony 550'S one in my main HT and one in the master bedroom .The panny was a little slower loading and pretty much all commands were slower then my Sony's but really couldnt tell any really noticeable differences in audio or video with that being said I think the panny did a great job for the money especially comparing it to my Sony that I payed almost 4 times as much for at the time even though the prices have dropped now on the Sony like they have on most other bd players . Anyway my returning had nothing to do it with its performance so I can honestly recommend the 60 to anyone looking for great BD player for just over a 100 dollars you cant go wrong and wouldnt hesitate to buy another if I didnt already have two Sonys im completely satisfied with .

unless like me your bd 60 takes a dump on you after 7 months.