Official Panasonic DMP-BD60/80 Owners Thread - Page 201

Wow, I'll definitely think twice about buying another Panasonic CE product. I just bought my BD-60 in December.

I have a Roku box but wasn't aware that it had a hard drive.

The other ones I mentioned do. Does the Roku have the ability to watch the streaming, with a few minutes delay? That should smooth out the packet loss and network interference you often get when watching streaming media without buffering.

Is it so hard to understand that many people woud like this feature? There must have been a demand for it, if Panny is now offering it on all their 2010 line. I haven't lived in CA since I was a BP agent and running to the video store in Jan wasn't bad, now with 15 degrees in Chicago, I would rather stream some shows. Also every Blockbuster by me is closed or is closing. This is what it comes down to, it is very easy for Panasonic to make our 2009 line BD players stream Netflix and would not cost them anything more than to offer the firmware update. Streaming is the future, sadly Blockbuster is not.

It does not seem right for panny to dump on owners of the 60/80s by
not updating firmware to make netflix available. After, all they promised
us ongoing updates to vierra.

No we are owners of a product for only months and our product
is already rendered obsolete and abandoned from ongoing support by its manufacturer.

I will try and avoid buying any panny products in the future.
Geez, remember when panny and sony set the gold standard.
You couldn't go wrong buying their products.

Streaming video is like an I-pod...it's nice and convenient but the quality sucks compared to what you could be getting. The whole point of a Blu-ray player is to play Blu-rays.

I agree. It's OK for a small TV. But on my front projector and large screen, forget it.

Are the component outs any good on the BD60? While my projector(with HDMI) is away being repaired, I need to chooose between running component with the BD60 or my Toshiba HD-A2 HD-DVD player for standard DVD's. Any ideas? The bad part is I have to go back to my X1 temporarily. Thanks.

I currently have a BD30 player which is starting to see it's age with some newer movies. Is it worth upgrading now or waiting until the 2010 players are released? I was thinking of the BD-80 player, but if new players are right around the corner I'd give it a month or two.

Any thoughts?

*EDIT*

Never mind. I see that the DMP-BD65/DMP-BD85 are not to far off. I think I will hold out and see what they bring to the table first..

Couple of questions on my BD-60. Have had it for a couple of months now and have been pretty happy with it.

Anyhow, sometimes when I play BluRay discs, the blue light up logo on the front panel is lit, but other times playing BluRays it is not. Why is this? Am I doing something wrong? Seems all my BluRays play the same way, so I am not sure why this is the way it is. Thought I had read something about it before, but cannot find that now.

Lastly, the BD-60 has the SD card and the capability of the USB drive. Thought I had read too that of all the formats that this player can accomodate, that .avi was one of them. With that said, I put a digital copy of Zombieland that I had in .avi format onto a thumb drive, but I could not get the player to see or do anything with this. Is there something I am missing here? I did go through "drive select" and selected my USB thumbnail drive, but nothing. Originally I had the movie in a folder in I got an explorer type of deal, but no movie. Then I moved the movie to the root of the drive thinking maybe that was it, but nope. Any help on this is much appreciated!

"AVI" isn't really a video format. It's a file wrapper. Your copy of Zombieland is probably in Xvid or Divx format, which are not supported by the BD-60.

I agree, I have both a proj with a 102" screen, and a 54" G10 in my basement, although I havent used the proj in quite awhile. I don't expect to stream "Avatar", but for movies for my kids, old movies and TV shows (ie Weeds, Jerico) you can't beat streaming, plus it will only get better! This is a feature that will be the future, BD and DVD will be next to nonexsistent in the very near future.

I hate arguing, I just hoped to show Panasonic or find other people also intrested in getting this feature for their 2009 BD player. If you want to keep it a s a stand alone BD player, just don't upload the firmware to do so, or better yet dont even plug an ethernet line in, since you don't probably use BD live anyways. No offense to anybody, this is just my opinion only.

+1.

Exactly. The reason to buy a blu-ray player is to use it to play blu-ray discs. I do this because I want to the highest quality signal I can get, and currently that's a blu-ray disc. Lower quality signals just aren't interesting to me any more.

Absolutely agree - they obviously don't have it quite together yet. Chasing this thing round-and-round re Panasonic is simply asinine. It's led me to re-think my "need" for blu-ray capability too. Want blu-ray? Pay Panasonic more for a new player. Want to watch bly-ray? Pay Netflix more to rent the discs. Want streaming? Pay Panasonic more to unlock the service. On and on it goes.

I'm returning my BD-60, setting up a good 1080p DVD player, and will stream Netflix and whatever else I CHOOSE to my HDTV via my laptop.

By the way, the CES 2010 is showing some very nice "media PC's". Plug one into your TV and cut out Panasonic's roadblock to content for good.

+2

Sometimes these manufacturers talk out of both sides of their mouth. The big hook for getting people into Blu-Ray is, "the best video and audio quality, 6x better than dvd!" Then they turn around and want us to stream sub par content from our blu-ray player?? I don't get it.

After reading all this, my only question regarding the Netflix, that I don't have, currently subscribe to BB, is whether it will be streaming at 720, or 1080p through the new players?

Right now a Roku box for $100 can stream up to 720p. So, if the Panny won't stream, then I'll probably get a Roku box. I ocasionally use some of the streaming features on the Panny, but most of the time I just play BR discs.

I don't see why it's confusing. American consumers have almost always valued convenience over quality (see also: cassette tapes, MP3s).

Manufacturers have been flogging blu-ray for the picture/sound quality for years and it hasn't caught on. It's just not that big a draw for the majority of consumers (originally, I think, Sony et al thought that SD-DVDs would look so crappy on HDTVs that the blu-ray players would sell themselves, even at premium prices, but that obviously didn't happen).

So now, they're looking at what most people actually seem to want, which is convenience. So that's what they're giving them.

Why buy a streaming-enabled blu-ray player if you primarily want to stream? Why not buy a Ruko box? Again, convenience. The BR player allows you to play standard DVDs, CDs and streaming content from a single box (in addition to blu-ray discs) and it's less intimidating to the average non-techie than the idea of plugging in a new "black box" to their TV.

Hi Everyone,
Late last night I threw in a BD to watch on my BD60 and the message popped up about a new firmware update and I thought wow another one already, I am/was on 2.2. So I went ahead and did the update. I noticed one thing different once the update finished and I got to the BD's main menu. I had some widgets on the screen that turned out to be LG Live widgets. Widgets for weather, time and news. My TV is an 40lg70 by the way. By the time I finished watching the movie I did not go back to check the firmware version on the BD60(late at night/too tired). I run an ethernet connection to my BD60 and then HDMI to my 40lg70. I am just wondering which device got the firmware update . I checked this thread to see if there was any mention of a firmware update past 2.2 and did not see any mention of one. Could the lg have received a firmware update through the BD60's connection to the internet? I am away from the devices so I can't check the firmware release and it's eating me up as to what all went on. Any ideas? Thanks.

A Quick Q, does anyone know if there is a way on the player to go back 30 seconds, if you missed something on the movie, other than the rewind button. I was trying to add this to my logitech remote, and I couldn't find it.

You're citing an inquiry you placed last August. I do not think you can apply that to the same question today given the announcement of Netflix with the 2010 models. If they were working something then between the two companies there is no way they would release that information pre-emptively to the public.

I don't think a call to a Panasonic customer service line would help either. Chances are you would call again and that person would give you an opposite answer. I would not count Netflix streaming out of previous Vierra Cast capable products until their is an official press release from Panasonic on the matter.

Exactly to the point. The vast majority of people just don't really care about blu-ray resolution. But they would very quickly buy into simple, on-demand content.

I wonder how many people are looking at trading in their DVD players for blu-ray with no intention of renting more expensive blu-rays, but rather because there are no DVD players out there that will provide Netflix-like on-demand content. I'd bet it's most of them.

It sounds like your Panasonic got an update, Blu-TV is a new widget that uses BD-Live. To see what firmware you have hit Setup->go to Display-> and hit the status button.

Vast majority of ppl also don't know how to wire the player to the internet. Heck, most don't event know how to set a password/Encryption key for their wireless router.

So on-demand will not be as wide spread as you thought.

Thanks MG.

Couldn't agree more.

I don't agree, there are more Netflix subscribers than BD player owners in the US.
I think adding streaming services to a BD player is a selling point, many TV manufacturers are adding the feature as well.
http://newteevee.com/2009/11/04/stud...have-streamed/

This brings up a question, I have a Panasonic 10a player. Is there any reason to upgrade to a 60 or 80? I'm solely interested in using the machine as a player, am not interested in watching the special features that accompany the movie and have no interest in downloads, etc. Does the 60/80 series produce a better picture? Are they faster and quieter loading?

The Roku box takes about a minute after you select your movie and then begins to play it. Quality is less than that of a standard DVD.

Many, actualy majority of IIRC, Netflix subscribers don't subscript to BD (extra cost) and hence don't necessary own a BD player.

I don't know how far NF will take this, but Lost Season 5 is only available in BD format on their site.