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post #61 of 107
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To top it off, they decide to rip, er borrow a scene from Goldfinger, where they show Fields,dead, laying prone on the bed covered with "oil" instead of "Gold".

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I think that part is a nice touch and a neat homage to Goldfinger. It also nicely sets things up for what Bond decides to do with Greene in the end.

That being said, it's a shame that Greene is an uninspired villain with rather boring ambitions.
post #62 of 107
I watched it a couple nights ago and put it back again last night and watched half of it before going to bed, I enjoyed it. Lots of action and fast scenes. One has to watch it more than one time to take in all the action and follow it.

It is true about character development but it is still an enjoyable movie and I'm looking forward to the next one.

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I especially liked how they finally included the eye as this was one of my favorite features in a Bond movie, where he walks and shoots the sniper. Well have to wait till the next movie to see if it will be in the beginning of the movie or at the end, I;m just glad they included it this time.


As for ohmss, I really enjoyed that movie and it is one of my favorite Bond movies, it is certainly much better than Live and Let Die or Diamonds Are Forever.
post #63 of 107
I watched the Blu Ray last night and actually enjoyed it a bit more than I did in the theater. The DTS-MA track was great and my surrounds were going crazy especially when
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they jump out of the plane and the air is rushing by, my surrounds really did a good job of this scene and I could even feel air moving in the room, probably from my sub. Really cool effect.
post #64 of 107
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@shamus
here's my atempts to answer your questions:
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The boat that bond flips is a zodiac. It's like a big inner tube so basically he popped it, like a giant tire. Therefore the pressure of the released air propelled it. That and it just looked cool.

The body was put in the dumpster because if it was left out it would be found quickly and if he had taken it with him it would have been suspicious if anyone stopped them.

In the interrogation scene the traitor shoots the guard and then tries to shoot M so she was just running for cover. She had no weapon and either went to get reinforcements or to save herself due to her VIP status.

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I thought it was an anchor attached to a weight so he threw the weight overboard but it happened so fast i couldn't tell.
post #65 of 107
I enjoyed this one, I love Bond movies and take them for what they are.

I did at times find that some of the speech was hard to hear, I only rented it this time however and didn't want to make the same mistake i made with Casino Royale, I'll wait the for the 2 disc edition to come out before I make my purchase... when ever that will be

Cheers
Damo
post #66 of 107
Watched it last night and enjoyed it. May not have been as good as Casino Royale but I found the plot quite engaging. The initial action scenes used too much jerky cam and quick editing, detracting from them as a result.
One of my gripes is that the franchise is trying to make it too " Jason Bournish". The gritty action is fine but they're dropping things like the witty humor of Bond, the signature music and the classic intro to the villains: "the name's Bond, James Bond" and some of the gadgets.
post #67 of 107
I watched it last night and enjoyed it much more than I thought i would after reading the reviews.
I didn't have an issue with who were the bad guys, because I knew m and bond were the good guys, so i just went with the flow.
the scene where he gunned the motorcycle made me laugh out loud.
there was a lack of character development and i didn't really care what happened to a lot of the people in the movie, but it didn't really ever have a slow section-like every other bond movie made has.
So, i was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it.
post #68 of 107
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Originally Posted by b4z View Post

there was a lack of character development and i didn't really care what happened to a lot of the people in the movie, but it didn't really ever have a slow section-like every other bond movie made has.
So, i was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it.

The intro scenes to Greene and Mathis were a bit of slowdown points, I would say.

This movie just didn't keep you very fascinated in these parts, though. My, this movie could have certainly been so much better. God damn it, Forster.
post #69 of 107
great looking disc, and an enjoyable movie....but i found it to be a tad confusing.
post #70 of 107
I just watched CR and QoS and the latter definately is more enjoyable viewed right after CR IMO.

As far as audio, I actualy liked the Casino Royale PCM track a bit better than the QoS track, but both were very good overall. Here is what I wrote in the audio thread........


Quantum of Solace (DTS-MA) tier 0

I agree with most of what has been said in the tier 0 votes for this track. Solid all around track and I dont really have any complaints, but nothing stood out to me as exceptional. Although there were some awesome sound moments, there are a LOT of other discs I would turn to for "demo" material before this one.

Casino Royale (PCM) Reference

I might be in the minority here, BUT I found this PCM track which I watched right before Quantum to be a notch more impressive and worthy of reference status IMO. There are 3 standout audio moments in this film with my favorite coming at the end and I would use this to demo my system as it was very convincing. These 2 tracks are very similar as far as dialog (both are good), surround use (I would probably give the edge to CR by a hair), but LFE I found to be used a bit better in CR with a few truly WOW moments one of which was the end scene (which I mentioned) and one was during the airport sequence.

There was not a huge dif between these 2 tracks by any means, but certainly enough to my ears to be split a tier apart with CR being reference material IMHO. Just my thoughts.

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I watched the Blu Ray last night and actually enjoyed it a bit more than I did in the theater. The DTS-MA track was great and my surrounds were going crazy especially when
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they jump out of the plane and the air is rushing by, my surrounds really did a good job of this scene and I could even feel air moving in the room, probably from my sub. Really cool effect.

That part was truly awesome in the sound department! VERY convincing from my experience doing that in real life as far as the sound and even the feel to a slight degree as the subs were pushing some serious air through the listening position/room! I actualy would use this as demo material now that I think about it.
post #71 of 107
The first quarter of the movie was absolutely atrocious in regards to sound, the entire car case sounded tinny and weak.

The rest of the movie redeemed itself, though.
post #72 of 107
Great PQ and AQ but overall, I thought Casino Royale was a better flick. After watching the many "Bonds", I would say that Daniel Craig makes a pretty darn good one. Specifically, for his high octane acrobatics and very visceral fighting.

Watching his fight scenes, I can almost feel the kicks, the punches and the pain....Ouch! On the other hand, I do miss the somewhat cheesey humor of past Bonds.

Recently, I've been renting most movies from BB but I thought this one, as well as Casino Royale, deserved a purchase. I think they both stand up pretty well for a re-watch.

Mike T
post #73 of 107
Finally, I just watch the blu-ray of Quantum of Solace few nights ago.

I just love it. I love it more than the first one: Casino Royale.

More action, more entertaining, James is in top form, the stunts are excellent, the picture and the colors looks fabulous, the sound is top notch, the girls are pretty, everything is just sweet.
I like it when the action keep you alert and doesn't make you falling asleep.
There are some camera shots that are very well done, it brings you right there with the action, from the car chases to the fights, from top angles looking down, you feel the vertigo, and the picture is very detailed too.
There is some great ingenuity and innovation on the way it was shoot.

Brief, I was blown away by all the works that went through this entertaining movie.

A great ride indeed. Two thumbs up from me.

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Bob
post #74 of 107
I originally saw QoS in November and was extremely disappointed but now it seems that many of my initial complaints had to do with my theater environment (the new Sundance Theater in Madison, WI) which I had thought was state-of-the-art. The picture and sound there were lackluster and tainted my enjoyment of this film. Now having viewed it in my home theater with dts-MA sound I am glad to see it is a more worthy sequel to Casino Royale than I had given it credit for, although CR is still the better of the two. Although Daniel Craig binds the two movies together it was Eva Green's Vesper Lynd character that really distinguishes the first film with their back and forth banter and relationship - and their eventual love and romance.
post #75 of 107
Speaking of video quality, did anyone notice some strange blue posterization in close-up shots of Bond and Camille while they huddle for safety in the burning hotel - time stamp is about 1:35. It doesn't last long and shows up on parts of the image that are dark or near black, like her hair, Bond's gun, parts of his suit. I've played this several times and is repeatable. Maybe my copy ? Not a problem that I can tell with my projection set up, as I have never seen this happen before in over 1000 hours on the projector and hundreds of movies (DVD, HD DVD, and BD) watched. I tried to take a digital picture of it, but with a front projection system, I don't know how to get the exposure set in such a dimly lit environment.

Bill
post #76 of 107
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

I originally saw QoS in November and was extremely disappointed but now it seems that many of my initial complaints had to do with my theater environment (the new Sundance Theater in Madison, WI) which I had thought was state-of-the-art. The picture and sound there were lackluster and tainted my enjoyment of this film. Now having viewed it in my home theater with dts-MA sound I am glad to see it is a more worthy sequel to Casino Royale than I had given it credit for, although CR is still the better of the two. Although Daniel Craig binds the two movies together it was Eva Green's Vesper Lynd character that really distinguishes the first film with their back and forth banter and relationship - and their eventual love and romance.

Hi,

I do agree with your statement here about the relationship between James and Vesper, which made Casino Royale a "spicy" movie.
And I found also that Quantum of Solace is the complement of Casino Royale.
Kind of only one long movie, with the second part more action oriented.
They go together, no doubt about that.
Thanks for this true input.

Regards, Bob
post #77 of 107
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Originally Posted by storman View Post

Speaking of video quality, did anyone notice some strange blue posterization in close-up shots of Bond and Camille while they huddle for safety in the burning hotel - time stamp is about 1:35. It doesn't last long and shows up on parts of the image that are dark or near black, like her hair, Bond's gun, parts of his suit. I've played this several times and is repeatable. Maybe my copy ? Not a problem that I can tell with my projection set up, as I have never seen this happen before in over 1000 hours on the projector and hundreds of movies (DVD, HD DVD, and BD) watched. I tried to take a digital picture of it, but with a front projection system, I don't know how to get the exposure set in such a dimly lit environment.

Bill

Yes Bill, you are right. It is the fire effect that creates that into the camera.
It is quite a normal behaviour. I sudied photography at high school, and it is a normal phenomenon. It is caused by the rapid light created by the orange flames of the fire, it moves so fast with such light intensity, that the shutter of the camera can't keep up.
Fast movig flames, smoke, fog, clouds, etc. are tough to record properly on cameras.
We are still quite far from recording what the eyes see, in particular with nature elements in motion.

Bob
post #78 of 107
Thanks. That's a relief. I thought it might be something akin to "flaring".
Yes, isn't it amazing how the human eye captures images and adapts to changing lighting compared to a camera ?
Bill
p.s - like your username. Big fan ? I'm waiting for the trilogy to be released on BD and for The Hobbit to come out on film. - hoping the new crew can do just as well with it as Jackson and company did with LOTR
post #79 of 107
Audio and video great, I just have a Yamaha soundbar and woofer and thought I would have to leave the room. I can't imagine a full system sound setup. Now I know I am getting long in the tooth but I got to dump this on here and see if I get beat up. So much of the movie was fast and confusing. One of the fight scenes with the blond villian type they were moving so fast I had trouble picking Bond from villian. The opening car chase both wife and I had same problem. The flashbacks between cars etc while exciting were a tad confusing. I am old school and did miss Moneypenny and the usual introductions to the gadgets of which many just were not there. I will be viewing it again and again (I have to)to see all.
Maybe I will have to switch over to westerns as the cowboys/horses are a lot slower.
post #80 of 107
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Originally Posted by wvasko View Post

Audio and video great, I just have a Yamaha soundbar and woofer and thought I would have to leave the room. I can't imagine a full system sound setup. Now I know I am getting long in the tooth but I got to dump this on here and see if I get beat up. So much of the movie was fast and confusing. One of the fight scenes with the blond villian type they were moving so fast I had trouble picking Bond from villian. The opening car chase both wife and I had same problem. The flashbacks between cars etc while exciting were a tad confusing. I am old school and did miss Moneypenny and the usual introductions to the gadgets of which many just were not there. I will be viewing it again and again (I have to)to see all.
Maybe I will have to switch over to westerns as the cowboys/horses are a lot slower.

Don't feel bad - I said basically the same thing in a post a few weeks back. The confusion will die down after a few viewings - I understood more and appreciated the movie more after the second viewing. Some have said Moneypenny, Q and the gadgets will come back in the next one. That's good, in my opinion, as long as the gadgets and stunt scenes don't get silly like they did in the 80' and 90's. I really liked Casino for it's character depth and development - I hope in the future that doesn't get lost in an effort to wow the audience and relive some of the old Bond flicks.

Bill
post #81 of 107
Awesome audio on this - specially the airplane c***h - wow! The music was top notch too!

Is it me, or does every new BD release become the reference disc?
post #82 of 107
Eye popping BD, but while the plot had some interesting twists, that were way underdeveloped, the execution was atrocious. The was one long shaky-cam chase, evade scene, over-the-top fights and so much meth-amped adrenelin that whatever gold was in the original script, it was morphed into fool's gold. This movie had the budget, but was just mishandled.
post #83 of 107
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Eye popping BD, but while the plot had some interesting twists, that were way underdeveloped, the execution was atrocious. The was one long shaky-cam chase, evade scene, over-the-top fights and so much meth-amped adrenelin that whatever gold was in the original script, it was morphed into fool's gold. This movie had the budget, but was just mishandled.

I believe it was $225 million. Where was it all thrown in? I mean seriously.
post #84 of 107
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Originally Posted by Ron Temple View Post

Eye popping BD, but while the plot had some interesting twists, that were way underdeveloped, the execution was atrocious. The was one long shaky-cam chase, evade scene, over-the-top fights and so much meth-amped adrenelin that whatever gold was in the original script, it was morphed into fool's gold. This movie had the budget, but was just mishandled.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.
post #85 of 107
Bond is going downhill, fast. This was the worst Bond film IMO. I had no sympathy, empathy or any other *athy for the hero. The plot was poor. Why was the head of a top spy agency galavanting around the globe nearly getting killed? Totally out of character.

I have been a Bond fan since the 60's and I miss Sean Connery more than ever now. He had style, charm, wit etc. etc. This Bond had none of those attributes. I was barely able to watch the entire film. Very disappointing. Quantum of S**t
post #86 of 107
If you think this is the worst bond movie, go check out the rodger moor "BOND" movies
post #87 of 107
I didn't enjoy this movie very much. Sorry I even purchased it on Blu-ray.
post #88 of 107
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie and thought the sound was reference quality.
post #89 of 107
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Originally Posted by quarque View Post

Bond is going downhill, fast. This was the worst Bond film IMO. I had no sympathy, empathy or any other *athy for the hero. The plot was poor. Why was the head of a top spy agency galavanting around the globe nearly getting killed? Totally out of character.
I have been a Bond fan since the 60's and I miss Sean Connery more than ever now. He had style, charm, wit etc. etc. This Bond had none of those attributes. I was barely able to watch the entire film. Very disappointing. Quantum of S**t

If this is the worst then what would Diamonds are forever and Moonraker be.
post #90 of 107
I rented the BD version from BB and my PS3 will not let me get past the set-up section. I took one back and got another BD version and the same thing happens. Has anyone else had this problem with a PS3? BTW my PS3 is V 2.16
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