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post #31 of 1269
No Blu-ray? What is this madness??! Is this something like the corded telephones? Some kinda' weird RDM BSG, tech-but-anti-tech kinda' thing? Because, you know, I could totally respect that.
post #32 of 1269
Why would anyone watch this given the ending of BSG? Anything out of the ordinary is simply explained as "god did it".
post #33 of 1269
Well, I think you need to think a little bigger, my good man. What we are going to see with 'Caprica' is a more soap-ish drama (that's not necessarily a bad thing) in the sci-fi realm which really hasn't been done before. Leave it to RDM, who has already achieved his magnum opus. For most people, you get something like that frak once in a lifetime, if you're lucky. I think he's just accepted the challenge of doing a sci-fi piece that is going to rise and fall based on it's intrinsic dramatic possibilities. No viper-on-raider cgi combat. Just a war of feuding ideals regarding esoteric concepts like the meaning of life and what it means to be human and the bio-ethical-religious consequences of man's technology exceeding his morality and other high-falutin' conceits. And hopefully, hot chicks. He's earned the right, he's got the cred, he's swinging for the fences. It is the network's only claim to fame, near as I can tell from their development slate. They're counting on RDM, and now Eick has signed back on, to continue to give them cred. Will they step up to the plate?
post #34 of 1269
Well, if the writing is anywhere near as good as BSG it should be interesting. The actual period where this all started was only really touched on in BSG. I'm curious to see how they'll handle the humanistic aspects of it, the social and religious ambiguities of creating robots and/or "clones" of humans, something that's been somewhat of a discussion in scientific communities today. If it's just straight scifi without the sociopolitical/theological depth of BSG, then I'm not sure it will be that good, but if it does, it could be quite good. I'm hoping it is.
post #35 of 1269
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Originally Posted by cocoon View Post

Why would anyone watch this given the ending of BSG? Anything out of the ordinary is simply explained as "god did it".

As opposed to...gremlins? You mean a show with a character who claims to be an angel, with characters who call other characters angels, with an episode called, "Hand of God" where a character basically had to put his faith in one of those "angels" and where characters have prophetic visions based on religious texts hints that there is some other power at play in the universe (could be a god or gods or angels or a higher alien power) that we can't see?

Wow. Who would have thought...

I thought Caprica was officially picked up?

And here are a few new clips from the show: http://www.moviehole.net/200918264-n...s-from-caprica
post #36 of 1269
I'm certainly going to be watching....though the news about the DVD being available only in SD is a little disturbing.

I also noticed that for the 3 fans of Kyle XY, the actress who played Andi looks to be a part of the cast.
post #37 of 1269
I think it's really odd that the pilot will come out on DVD in April, yet not air on TV for at least 6 months. Odd.
post #38 of 1269
I did not like the preview they showed during BSG. It did not look good to me at all. Just didn't do anything for me.
post #39 of 1269
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Originally Posted by jamieva View Post

I think it's really odd that the pilot will come out on DVD in April, yet not air on TV for at least 6 months. Odd.

It is a bit of a risk. If the DVD is well received, it will build anticipation for the series. If it is a bust.....well, let's not think about that.
post #40 of 1269
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I did not like the preview they showed during BSG. It did not look good to me at all. Just didn't do anything for me.

That's exactly what I thought....the whole preview was about love and relationships and family and blah blah blah. It didn't even look sci-fi at all, or BSG related. Just looked like a soap opera. I don't even think they mentioned Cylons (although I'm sure that will be part of the overall plot).

The preview did nothing for me.

That being said, I will check it out because of course I loved BSG.
post #41 of 1269
I think we all need to steel ourselves that that's what it's going to be. Not a space opera; maybe the first sci-fi soap opera. But, you know it'll be frakkin' well written soap opera. It will be dark. It will be thought-provoking. It will be cool. Because that's what The Man does. I actually thought the preview was pretty neat. Saw a train gettin' blowed up real good! Gotta' love that!
post #42 of 1269
I want to know what happened on Kobol.

Yeah yeah, on Caprica they invented toasters, they rebelled, long war, toasters disappear for 40 years blah blah blah.

I want the backstory to start from where it happened the first time.
post #43 of 1269
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Originally Posted by Sneezy View Post

I want to know what happened on Kobol.

Yeah yeah, on Caprica they invented toasters, they rebelled, long war, toasters disappear for 40 years blah blah blah.

I want the backstory to start from where it happened the first time.

Not sure it was the first time...but I agree, Kobol would be more interesting.
post #44 of 1269
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Originally Posted by Sneezy View Post

I want to know what happened on Kobol.

Yeah yeah, on Caprica they invented toasters, they rebelled, long war, toasters disappear for 40 years blah blah blah.

I want the backstory to start from where it happened the first time.

Well, if Caprica does well......
post #45 of 1269
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Originally Posted by petergaryr View Post

Well, if Caprica does well......

How could a less action-oriented, less sfx, spin-off of a sci-fi show that struggled to find an audience on a channel that struggles to find audiences for every show not do well?

Well, at least it doesn't have the stigma of being called "Battlestar Galactica" (which in itself had a lot of negativity associated with the 70's show) attached to it, so that's a pro.
post #46 of 1269
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

How could a less action-oriented, less sfx, spin-off of a sci-fi show that struggled to find an audience on a channel that struggles to find audiences for every show not do well?
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Right. I'm cautiously optimistic but not holding my breath.

Who knows? Maybe the wife will actually like this one...if it goes the way way the trailers seem to point.
post #47 of 1269
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Originally Posted by Sneezy View Post

Right. I'm cautiously optimistic but not holding my breath.

Who knows? Maybe the wife will actually like this one...if it goes the way way the trailers seem to point.

My wife will not watch it if they continue to use the word "frak" as freely as they did on BSG. I know everyone here loves it, but when they are using it literally 20 times (an average of once every 2 minutes) during the show, it becomes a bit ridiculous and laughable....

That is my opinion if they want to be taken seriously by non-sci-fi fans such as my wife and several friends who I tried (unsuccessfully) to get into BSG....about 5 "fraks" later and they were laughing too hard at how stupid it was that it no longer mattered how good the show was. From then on anytime I mentioned BSG I was greeted with "Yeah, that's a great frakking show...hahahaha!!! Enjoy the frakking show, you frakking loser....hahahaha! frak frak frak frak!!"

And that is not an exaggeration of how things went. Again IMO, you cannot make a serious show set in a sci-fi universe and expect to win over non-sci-fi fans if you are constantly throwing ridiculous words at them that will cause them to dismiss the show outright. Maybe tone it down to one or two "fraks" in an episode instead of 20. Really, saying "What the hell" has as much impact as "What the frak" and saying "Damn you" has as much impact as saying "frak you" but without the laughability. Or they could just grow a pair like Comedy Central and FX and actually just swear in it outright.
post #48 of 1269
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Originally Posted by Iteki View Post

Not sure it was the first time...but I agree, Kobol would be more interesting.

Probably happened more or less the same way on both planets, so it would essentially be the same show with a different name for the planet. What has happened before will happen again, etc.
post #49 of 1269
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

My wife will not watch it if they continue to use the word "frak" as freely as they did on BSG. I know everyone here loves it, but when they are using it literally 20 times (an average of once every 2 minutes) during the show, it becomes a bit ridiculous and laughable....

Well, in fairness, the show took place in a military setting and military people swear. A lot. I thought it just added to the realism. In any event, I never felt it was frakkin' gratuitous but that's just me, gods-dammit.
post #50 of 1269
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Originally Posted by GrouchoDude View Post

Well, in fairness, the show took place in a military setting and military people swear. A lot. I thought it just added to the realism. In any event, I never felt it was frakkin' gratuitous but that's just me, gods-dammit.

Oh, it isn't the swearing that bothers her, but the pseudo-swearing. If they were using the real F word, she (and most of my friends) probably would have watched BSG. It was the gratuitous use of a made up word that made it laughable (to them) and caused them not to watch the show.

She felt the same way about "frell" and "frelling" back in the day.

They might as well have been saying "What the bejuzabubble?!" or "humaxi you!" because those are also a made up words that they could use in place of swearing that my wife and friends would find just as silly as the word frak. I'm not really commenting one way or another (although I personally didn't really care for it), but just pointing out that is the sole reason my wife and friends laughed at BSG and dismissed it after less than 1/2 episode. I'm also not saying they would have been big fans of the show or continuously watched it, but they probably would have at least given it a chance.

If you don't think they used it gratuitously, then you should count how many times they do use it in the last two seasons (if you watch re-runs). I think you'll be surprised.
post #51 of 1269
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Originally Posted by GrouchoDude View Post

Probably happened more or less the same way on both planets, so it would essentially be the same show with a different name for the planet. What has happened before will happen again, etc.

Well yes, but think how much money they would save. They could digitally remove the faces to the actors on Caprica and insert new faces. They'd probably hope no one would notice.

Wait....I'd better not give them any ideas.

I still think Caprica may surprise us (in a good way).
post #52 of 1269
I think you guys need to look into the term soap-opera.

Just because a story is invested in it's characters and story rather then gadgets or explosions doesn't make it a soap-opera.
post #53 of 1269
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Originally Posted by Iteki View Post

Not sure it was the first time...

Oh, garsh, let's not start that.
post #54 of 1269
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

My wife will not watch it if they continue to use the word "frak" as freely as they did on BSG. I know everyone here loves it, but when they are using it literally 20 times (an average of once every 2 minutes) during the show, it becomes a bit ridiculous and laughable....

That is my opinion if they want to be taken seriously by non-sci-fi fans such as my wife and several friends who I tried (unsuccessfully) to get into BSG....about 5 "fraks" later and they were laughing too hard at how stupid it was that it no longer mattered how good the show was. From then on anytime I mentioned BSG I was greeted with "Yeah, that's a great frakking show...hahahaha!!! Enjoy the frakking show, you frakking loser....hahahaha! frak frak frak frak!!"

And that is not an exaggeration of how things went. Again IMO, you cannot make a serious show set in a sci-fi universe and expect to win over non-sci-fi fans if you are constantly throwing ridiculous words at them that will cause them to dismiss the show outright. Maybe tone it down to one or two "fraks" in an episode instead of 20. Really, saying "What the hell" has as much impact as "What the frak" and saying "Damn you" has as much impact as saying "frak you" but without the laughability. Or they could just grow a pair like Comedy Central and FX and actually just swear in it outright.

I know, I mean little green jedi masters makes total sense but that frak stuff is just ridiculous.
post #55 of 1269
Even if the DTV pilot sells well, that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be changed for creative purposes by the time it gets to its regular run on SyFy.
post #56 of 1269
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Originally Posted by b.greenway View Post

I know, I mean little green jedi masters makes total sense but that frak stuff is just ridiculous.

LOL. I was going to say...that makes absolutely no sense.

They're in space? With killer robots? Okay...wait...did they just say "frak?" LOL that's stupid I'm out!

Wtf?

Frak is actually ingenious because it goes to show just how stupid the entire concept of profanity is.
post #57 of 1269
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Originally Posted by moob View Post

LOL. I was going to say...that makes absolutely no sense.

They're in space? With killer robots? Okay...wait...did they just say "frak?" LOL that's stupid I'm out!

Wtf?

Frak is actually ingenious because it goes to show just how stupid the entire concept of profanity is.

My wife is the same way...she thinks Star Wars makes perfect sense, but BSG is totally stupid.

Sigh.
post #58 of 1269
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Originally Posted by mproper View Post

Oh, it isn't the swearing that bothers her, but the pseudo-swearing. If they were using the real F word, she (and most of my friends) probably would have watched BSG. It was the gratuitous use of a made up word that made it laughable (to them) and caused them not to watch the show.

She felt the same way about "frell" and "frelling" back in the day.

They might as well have been saying "What the bejuzabubble?!" or "humaxi you!" because those are also a made up words that they could use in place of swearing that my wife and friends would find just as silly as the word frak. I'm not really commenting one way or another (although I personally didn't really care for it), but just pointing out that is the sole reason my wife and friends laughed at BSG and dismissed it after less than 1/2 episode. I'm also not saying they would have been big fans of the show or continuously watched it, but they probably would have at least given it a chance.

If you don't think they used it gratuitously, then you should count how many times they do use it in the last two seasons (if you watch re-runs). I think you'll be surprised.

Sounds like your friends are a bunch of frakkin' tools. If they can't get past giggling at the word frak, I doubt they had the intellectual capacity to comprehend and enjoy the show anyway.
post #59 of 1269
LOL
post #60 of 1269
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Originally Posted by Iteki View Post

My wife is the same way...she thinks Star Wars makes perfect sense, but BSG is totally stupid.

When I was just a young lad, my parents took me to see a double feature. The first movie was Raiders of the Lost Ark, which they hated. They said it was totally unbelievable. But they enjoyed the second movie, which was, get this, Swamp Thing!!
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