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post #151 of 228
I have not noticed any jerkiness on PAL discs either. I have my player set at 1080P, Film Mode on, and display at 16:9PB, which insures proper Aspect Ratio playback. PAL extras on BD imports play flawlessly! (My Samsung 61" LED DLP will not support PAL, so Auto does not give me PAL conversion).
post #152 of 228
When I received the Momitsu two weeks ago I hooked it up to my new 52" Sony Bravia and connected it according to reviews from DVD Beaver and other sites. I set the resolution on the player to 1080P 24 film off. When I played PAL DVD's the picture was very jerky until I switched the resolution to 480i.

Since I purchased another Momitsu I hooked up the one I have to my 47" Vizio 1080P that processes 120 HZ. I changed the resolution to HDMI Auto and 24 film on. I played three PAL Region 2 DVD's, Ladyhawke, Cutthroat Island and From Dusk to Dawn and they all played perfectly. No jittering or shaking and the picture was really sharp. The Vizio showed it was receiving a 1080i signal which it up-converted to 1080P.

The type of LCD may determine the resolution settings for the player. The Vizio is multi-system and the Sony is strictly NTSC and that may explain why HDMI Auto works on the Vizio. When I receive the Momitsu on Tuesday I will hook it up to the Sony and try various settings to determine which work best with a NTSC LCD.
post #153 of 228
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Originally Posted by Ted_K View Post

I have not noticed any jerkiness on PAL discs either. I have my player set at 1080P, Film Mode on, and display at 16:9PB, which insures proper Aspect Ratio playback. PAL extras on BD imports play flawlessly! (My Samsung 61" LED DLP will not support PAL, so Auto does not give me PAL conversion).


Like I've said a couple times already in this thread, setting the Momitsu to HDMI Auto with film mode on allows for Source Direct on BDs and will upscale DVDs to 1080i/60, but it won't do PAL conversion. Since the Momitsu does not de-interlace 1080i material properly, I would strongly recommend you use the "Auto" and Film Mode "On" settings (assuming your display/outboard processor does proper de-interlacing), otherwise you'll only be seeing 540 lines of resolution when playing back 1080i material. When you need to watch a PAL disc, then set the Momitsu to 1080i or 1080p.
post #154 of 228
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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy View Post

Like I've said a couple times already in this thread, setting the Momitsu to HDMI Auto with film mode on allows for Source Direct on BDs and will upscale DVDs to 1080i/60, but it won't do PAL conversion. Since the Momitsu does not de-interlace 1080i material properly, I would strongly recommend you use the "Auto" and Film Mode "On" settings (assuming your display/outboard processor does proper de-interlacing), otherwise you'll only be seeing 540 lines of resolution when playing back 1080i material. When you need to watch a PAL disc, then set the Momitsu to 1080i or 1080p.

Thanks for the info, but if I'm mainly using the Momitsu as a Region B BD player and don't plan on buying many, if any, 1080i import BDs, then 1080P/On would be fine, right?
post #155 of 228
GoldenBoy,

Have you (or any other owners) been able to connect through BD Live with this player? I have a LAN cable from my router connected, but the player is not seeing the connection (no IP address, etc.). I know it works because my Toshiba A-2 recognizes it right away. I've tried Dynamic and Manual and neither works. The display reads "Link Up" when I plug in the cable and "Link Down" when I unplug, but if I try to access BD Live, I get a message saying the player is not connected to the internet.

Any ideas/tricks?
post #156 of 228
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Originally Posted by Ted_K View Post

Thanks for the info, but if I'm mainly using the Momitsu as a Region B BD player and don't plan on buying many, if any, 1080i import BDs, then 1080P/On would be fine, right?


Well, yes, if you're only going to play 1080p content, then you don't have to worry about the poor de-interlacing on the Momitsu. Just remember to switch it to 1080i if you do happen to play any 1080i content on it and turn on Film Mode for 24p playback if your display supports that.
post #157 of 228
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Originally Posted by Ted_K View Post

GoldenBoy,

Have you (or any other owners) been able to connect through BD Live with this player? I have a LAN cable from my router connected, but the player is not seeing the connection (no IP address, etc.). I know it works because my Toshiba A-2 recognizes it right away. I've tried Dynamic and Manual and neither works. The display reads "Link Up" when I plug in the cable and "Link Down" when I unplug, but if I try to access BD Live, I get a message saying the player is not connected to the internet.

Any ideas/tricks?

I have connected to BD-Live with the player. I'm using a wireless Ethernet adapter connected to the Momitsu and plugged directly into my router. The player does seem to lose the IP info on occasion, and I've had to reset the Ethernet adapter a few times, but that has also happened with another wireless Ethernet adapter that I use on a third BD player, a Panasonic BD80. It seems to happen with the Momitsu more often, though.
post #158 of 228
This player is buggy/quirky. Hitting backwards skip will take you to chapter 2 regardless of what chapter you were just in. Can't change chapters or access popup menu functions when in pause mode. PCM soundtrack Blu-rays have their audio channels mixed up in random ways when you skip chapters, select chapters from the menu, or fast forward/rewind. The good news is that all these problems should be fixable with a firmware update.

On a more positive note - the load times are pretty good, and it's played every non-North American disc I've thrown at it.
post #159 of 228
I have not read that in any reviews I can find (RE: PCM soundtrack problems). That sounds exceedingly serious and I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this???

I am thinking of purchasing this player.
post #160 of 228
I have found the source of the problem I experienced with jittery and robotic movement when playing PAL DVD,s. Both my 52 " Sony Bravia and 47" Vizio displayed the jittery video.

During setup of the Momitsu I set the resolution of both players to 1080P/24 without making any changes to the LCD settings. BluRay and SD DVD's played perfectly it was only the PAL DVD's that displayed jittery movement. As you suggested I switched the resolution setting "Auto" for the Vizio and 1080i for the Sony. Auto defaults to 1080i/24 and since the Sony is limited to NTSC I set the resolution to 1080i for that LCD. Auto disables the video converter and doesn't work well with the Sony.

This change corrected the problem and both LCD's displayed PAL DVD's perfectly. I then changed the resolution back to 1080P/24 and disabled the 3 - 2 pulldown for the HDMI inputs the Momitsu are connected to. PAL DVD's, as well as SD and BluRay played perfectly.

I am very impressed with the player's up-converting video output and see no reason to re-buy SD DVD's other than letterbox or flippers. I haven't watched enough SD DVD's to determine which is better, 1080i/24, allowing the LCD's to up-convert to 1080P and perform 3 - 2 pulldown, or 1080P/24 and the player does these functions?
post #161 of 228
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Originally Posted by ernie6 View Post

...As you suggested I switched the resolution setting "Auto" for the Vizio and 1080i for the Sony. Auto defaults to 1080i/24 and since the Sony is limited to NTSC I set the resolution to 1080i for that LCD. Auto disables the video converter and doesn't work well with the Sony...

A few things here, "Auto" does not default to anything. And, there's no such thing as "1080i/24." 1080i on BD is going to be either 1080i/60 or, for some European releases 1080i/50. Getting back to that default thing, the Momitsu set to "Auto" will play 1080i from a 1080i source and 1080p (60 or 24, depending on your display and if you have film mode turned "On") from a 1080p/24 source.

Also, there is no such thing as "NTSC" for high definition. NTSC and PAL, etc. refer to SD standards. They will have np effect on high definition content.

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This change corrected the problem and both LCD's displayed PAL DVD's perfectly. I then changed the resolution back to 1080P/24 and disabled the 3 - 2 pulldown for the HDMI inputs the Momitsu are connected to. PAL DVD's, as well as SD and BluRay played perfectly.

There would be no 3:2 pulldown done by your display if the Momitsu is outputting 1080p. The Momitsu will do 3:2 if it is converting from 1080p/24 to 1080p/60, etc.

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I am very impressed with the player's up-converting video output and see no reason to re-buy SD DVD's other than letterbox or flippers. I haven't watched enough SD DVD's to determine which is better, 1080i/24, allowing the LCD's to up-convert to 1080P and perform 3 - 2 pulldown, or 1080P/24 and the player does these functions?

I've run the Silicon Optix SQV HD benchmarks on the Momitsu, and it is the strongest player I've seen for DVD upscaling. It did better 2:3 than my Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
post #162 of 228
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

I have not read that in any reviews I can find (RE: PCM soundtrack problems). That sounds exceedingly serious and I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this???

I am thinking of purchasing this player.

What PCM soundtrack issues? The ones that DKA was talking about in the previous post? If he's actually experiencing problems like this he got a bad unit. I've experienced nothing like that. Besides, I watch movies on mine, I don't randomly jump around chapters. Having said that, I have sampled movies by jumping around chapters and have experienced no PCM sound issues.
post #163 of 228
I skipped around chapters on my Wee-jun B, Hollywoodland BD which has PCM audio with no issues. I'm getting ready to watch my latest, locked, B-ville release, Sexy Beast in a short while.
post #164 of 228
My 899 did an odd thing last night. When the credits of Sexy Beast were only mere seconds from over, I wanted to back up and read somethin' closer. When I did and went back into play, the audio went to digital static. I backed up more, the same. I hit Menu and that was the end of that, back to normal. BTW, this was DTS Master audio.

I had backed up numerous times in the film trying to catch words that were hard to discern, no problem. The thieves all play their parts with X-treame cockney accents which were not always easy for me. If only they'd of spoken Anglish....

The simularity to a previous poster struck me.....
post #165 of 228
OK, after further investigation it seems the PCM channel scramble only happens with 24/96 encoded discs. Unfortunately, these are inevitably concert discs where you do lots of chapter skipping. Also, when skipping chapters backwards the onscreen display will always indicate Chapter 2, but will actually skip to the correct chapter.

Apparently, I'm the only one experiencing these problems?
post #166 of 228
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

My 899 did an odd thing last night. When the credits of Sexy Beast were only mere seconds from over, I wanted to back up and read somethin' closer. When I did and went back into play, the audio went to digital static. I backed up more, the same. I hit Menu and that was the end of that, back to normal. BTW, this was DTS Master audio.

I had backed up numerous times in the film trying to catch words that were hard to discern, no problem. The thieves all play their parts with X-treame cockney accents which were not always easy for me. If only they'd of spoken Anglish....

The simularity to a previous poster struck me.....

Hey Rach,

Are you bitstreaming the DTS-HD MA? This has happened to me on the rare occassion with other players bitstreaming DTS-HD HR and MA into my Onkyo 805. The last time it happened it was with an Opera title, I think from Art Haus.
post #167 of 228
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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy View Post

Hey Rach,

Are you bitstreaming the DTS-HD MA? This has happened to me on the rare occassion with other players bitstreaming DTS-HD HR and MA into my Onkyo 805. The last time it happened it was with an Opera title, I think from Art Haus.

Bon jour mon ami, oui....what else would I do with dat Master audio. I quess I'm relieved some as this episode had me worried a bit. I've watched so much Master on BD and HD-DVD too, if it's happened to you before, I'm rather suprised this is my first time. I know we've had many of the same players, although we might have differentiated some this past year?

What other players did this....I'm curious as a cat, well, como la Gata....
post #168 of 228
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

Bon jour mon ami, oui....what else would I do with dat Master audio. I quess I'm relieved some as this episode had me worried a bit. I've watched so much Master on BD and HD-DVD too, if it's happened to you before, I'm rather suprised this is my first time. I know we've had many of the same players, although we might have differentiated some this past year?

What other players did this....I'm curious as a cat, well, como la Gata....


Well, this happened to me with a Sony S350 and, I think it happened once on my Panasonic BD80. I haven't had it happen with the Momitsu -- yet.
post #169 of 228
I received my player yesterday and I must say, there is no noise at all.
The PQ from BD is really good (on an 80" projector screen).
But I couldn't get the player to play any .ts or .mp4 from disk. Any ideas why?
Or does the player only play files from USB?

From my seller, I got the following link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0...5965eaa7bc68bc

Please see there for manuals and FW updates. I also learned, the machine is Linux based and can only use FAT32 formatted USB media.
All all playable video files must have an extension of .avi.
post #170 of 228
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Originally Posted by GoldenBoy View Post

Well, this happened to me with a Sony S350 and, I think it happened once on my Panasonic BD80. I haven't had it happen with the Momitsu -- yet.

Hang in there and keep trying. I have complete confidence in you, you sexy beast. When the going gets tough, the tough stay in skuul, stay off rugs, and drink plenty of fresh, wholesome milk. I know you're up to the challenge!
post #171 of 228
I want to share the results of some experiments I made last weekend:
- the player doesn't play any avi with HD content (gives 'wrong resolution' error)
- it plays MultiAVCHD disks burned on BD
- HD content on DVD is not played correctly (sound distortion/absence) with high bitrate. Same DVD plays fine on PC. Same content burned to BD plays fine on player.
Seems, the bitrate from DVD doesn't support rates >4MBytes/sec.
post #172 of 228
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem with their Momitsu BDP - I was watching the 'Region B' BD "Gommorah" and paused the movie to take a bathroom break, when I came back and hit 'play' there was a loud 'pop'. I tried this again and the same thing happened, every time I pause a movie and then hit 'play' there is a very loud 'pop'. I have to turn down my volume before hitting 'play' in order not to damage my speakers.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any recommendations on how to fix this? Is this a bad unit and should I return it?
post #173 of 228
Airboss, it'd proably help to mention what head unit you're using and how you're sending the audio to it. That sounds reminescent of the DTS boom thang that occured with some Onkyo and Integra recievers 2 years ago.
post #174 of 228
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

Airboss, it'd proably help to mention what head unit you're using and how you're sending the audio to it. That sounds reminescent of the DTS boom thang that occured with some Onkyo and Integra recievers 2 years ago.

Momitsu BDP connected via HDMI to Onkyo NR-905 AVR.

I also have a PS3, an Oppo BDP-83 and a Toshiba HD-XA2 connected to the Onkyo via HDMI and no 'POP' with any of the other units.

BTW, the Momitus has the best picture of all my BD players as well as the best upconverting PQ.
post #175 of 228
Airboss, did you ever get the firmware update for your 905? My 805 required it. The latter productions runs of this series might not have needed it? I'm not sure. I got my 805 early and had to get it as I was using it with a Panasonic 30 then. If you had the PS3 back then, maybe you didn't experience the DTS Boom or pop at random spots in several Fox BD's...? I'm not sure what all the equipment combination are that were affected. If you didn't get the firmware update, that looms as one of the possible culprits.
post #176 of 228
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

Airboss, did you ever get the firmware update for your 905? My 805 required it. The latter productions runs of this series might not have needed it? I'm not sure. I got my 805 early and had to get it as I was using it with a Panasonic 30 then. If you had the PS3 back then, maybe you didn't experience the DTS Boom or pop at random spots in several Fox BD's...? I'm not sure what all the equipment combination are that were affected. If you didn't get the firmware update, that looms as one of the possible culprits.

I don't believe I did, I'll check that out. Thanks for the help.
post #177 of 228
Does this player has patch update? has anyone experience disk problem?
post #178 of 228
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Originally Posted by mugupo View Post

Does this player has patch update? has anyone experience disk problem?

There's been no firmware updates yet, so far as I know. I bought my Oppo 971 from HK Flix, Momitsu's main vendor, and they sent me links to every Oppo firmware upgrade that came along. I hope the same will happen here.
post #179 of 228
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Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy View Post

There's been no firmware updates yet, so far as I know. I bought my Oppo 971 from HK Flix, Momitsu's main vendor, and they sent me links to every Oppo firmware upgrade that came along. I hope the same will happen here.

Did u make oppo region free, pal compatible?
post #180 of 228
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Originally Posted by zoro View Post

Did u make oppo region free, pal compatible?

Yes, I've applied every fimware that HK Flix sent over the years. I think there's been 4...? The last one was about 2 years ago. I've had the Oppo since about '02-'03, approximately.

The Oppo seemed like a better Wee-jun emancipated player than the Malatta 991 player I had before it and, BTW, just sold. It's on my bedroom TV now. If I didn't have 3, out of Wee-jun, locked BD's already, I'd have no need for the Momitsu.
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