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post #1321 of 1763
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The master? The master of what?



post #1322 of 1763
OK, I'm back, been consumed buy some recent developments, my best friend had a heart attack last week at age 50, we were watching tv at his house, and he had some chest pain, got so bad he asked me to take him to the hospital, so I drove to Maple Grove's new Hospital, and they said yep, he's having a heart attack, do a bunch of stuff to him, and they said they had to take him to North in Robbinsdale, which I did not understand, maple grove got a brand new hospital, but they had no one there to do the surgery, go figure, so after ambulance ride to robbinsdale North, he still had to wait over 20 minutes in a chair so they could get ready for surgery ( over 30 minutes into a heart attack ) and then he finally got in. After a week, he's doing ok, left front side was 100 percent blocked, got a stint put in through the groin area, has to go trough 3 weeks of re-hab, and out of work for a month or so. My buddy was at his doctor 2 weeks ago, said he has a strong heart, colestrol was fine, blood levels were fine, told him to get back to work and quit wasting time LOL, and boom......Sorry, enough of my bordom...

Looking like you've made some great progress Hanes!
You have the doors up and so on, looking very nice! I installed similar white windows like you showed in your pics below, and after what I when through with the same feeling you said below, those white type of windows are very drafty, so I will only install triple pane windows, expensive but the only way to go, my house is old, built in the early 60's, so I've re-insulated some main level bedroom walls on the inside and it's been night & day in comfort.

Thanks for keeping us motivated Hanes!!!!
post #1323 of 1763
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Sorry to hear about your buddy's heart attack, Chad. That sucks. Hope his recovery goes well.

And here's hoping my new basement window is at least an improvement over the 60 year old single pane, drafty POS that was there previously. We should know soon enough, as winter weather can't be too far off now.
post #1324 of 1763
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Sorry to hear about your buddy's heart attack, Chad. That sucks. Hope his recovery goes well.

And here's hoping my new basement window is at least an improvement over the 60 year old single pane, drafty POS that was there previously. We should know soon enough, as winter weather can't be too far off now.

Hanes!

Thanks, he is doing great, he was in ICU for 2 days, he got a stint put in his heart, what's so crazy is this: he was at his family doctor 2 weeks ago, the doc told him he has a strong heart, blood levels look good, keep doing what your doing, and 2 weeks later, boom, heart attack, man.......

Any ways..... Did you call Ness Electronics???? They are in St Paul.
I took a pic of my buddy's house where the satellite install guy used a plastic gromet where they poked the co-ax through the wall in the garage, to run co-ax for a sat dish on the garage, at least it shows how simple it could be to drill through and calk around a plastic gromet and the wires just went over the gutter and to the dish.





Just for an example, laters..
post #1325 of 1763
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Thanks Chad - that's helpful. As I mentioned in your build thread, I haven't called Ness Electronics, simply because I have decided I will just stick with the external wiring route (for now anyway) because I have already drywalled the entire basement, and as part of that I already ran a RG6 cable from the equipment closet all the way across the basement and out the back of the house. So to finish it off now using that cable should be pretty simple. Here's the best photo I could find of the cable sitting there (circled in red), waiting to be pulled to the attic.



I should add that there is already old cable running on the exterior of my house back there that the Comcast guys installed years ago before I owned the house. So adding on more run won't be ruining an otherwise clean exterior.

OTOH, even if I successfully pulled a cable down from the attic through some closets I would still have to then get it almost the entire length of the basement through freshly painted drywall to reach the equipment closet, which would require far more drywall patching than I have the appetite for. If I hadn't drywalled already I would go the interior cabling route for sure but as it is ... well, it's good enough for the likes of me.

post #1326 of 1763
Well the reason to call ness was to just get some suggestions on mounting, whats the longest run length you should have, your going to have to figure out a way to ground everything, maybe a ground rod in the ground?
They are very helpful on helping out if you have any questions, just like what you have there, antenna's on the roof pose some serious lightning preventavive measures.

I guess I'd run a feed line ( solid line not two seperate coupled together) from the antenna, to the av box, and you can hook up an 8 port ( how many tv's you want to split into that #) amplifier, and terminate your co-ax lines to the amp / splitter, signal strength is best with the shortest run, but the amplifier will take care of that.

One of the guys at Ness told me that my channel master 4228 could have split the signal to 6 tv's without a problem with a good signal, but I wanted a bit more to not have a question.
post #1327 of 1763
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I'm going with an attic mount, not a roof top one, using the RCA ANT751, which one of the AVS antenna gurus recommended based on my TV Fool chart (I'm less than 10 miles from the transmitters). I'll ground it using the same method as the current cable that is back there.

I'll have the one home run between the antenna and the media closet. For now that is all I'll need, as we only have one TV.



Shocking, I know! But by design (mine) we're more of a movie watching family than a TV watching family. If this changes in the future I'll add splitters & amplifiers and whatnot then. But for now I just want one OTA signal to the main equipment closet where I have HDHomerun with two digital tuners that is networked to our LAN, so if we want we are able to watch the occasional game or TV show from one of the computers, or even on the PJ/big screen. But I really prefer to do the movie watching family as an event thing.

I know - one TV ... weird, right?

post #1328 of 1763
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... and now for an update on my lightning fast rack build.

When last I reported on this (over a month ago for those of you keeping track!) I had gotten the basic shell of the rack installed. In my usual snails pace way, I've f-i-n-a-l-l-y made another push.

The main thing slowing me down (other than my own incompetence and laziness) was the need to terminate the two circuits I had run to the under-the-stairs equipment closet. And before I could install the outlets & light I needed to pull the romex across the closet without leaving things hanging in the way - which meant some drilling through studs. And that, in turn, meant needing to buy or borrow a drill, since the one I had been using so far had long ago been returned to it's rightful owner. (I know, I know -- how pathetic is it when a friend can't even have a tool out on the Indefinite Loan plan anymore? )

So after a couple of martinis (give or take) I came up with an ingenious plan to power the closet without messing with the romex & drilling there:



But when that didn't work quite as planned, I tried Plan B:



Incredibly, Plan B was also problematic (), so I took my lumps and went back to the stupid plan to drill and pull the romex. Of course, this all meant that instead of taking ten minutes to drill a couple holes and wire up a couple outlets, it took me a couple weeks just to locate and borrow a drill! And then I had to take a week's vacation to go drinking - I mean, FISHING with my brothers. So it's fair to say things dragged out a bit at this stage.

OK, at every stage. Satisfied?

At any rate I've learned an important lesson here: a guy needs to pick his friends better, to make sure a few of them have a decent selection of tools to loan out to their friends! Otherwise things take much longer than they should!

Where was I? Oh, yes - so eventually I got a drill, and pulled the romex to where power would be needed. Here is a shot of the soon-to-be outlet ... and light:





Once I had power there, it was time to start relocating the equipment from the temporary table in the closet to the shelf. It sure was a neat bundle of chaos before, wasn't it?





But wait! Not so fast! First I needed to dress up the rack a bit, as the spray paint I used previously just looked very faded and dull. So first I put on some of the laminate tape strips on the leading shelf edges, then I painted everything again with a better quality paint. Before:



During, with the shelves drying (Notice the perfectly upright mini-tramp this time, Brian?)



And after (before the shelves went back in):



And here it is with the shelves and the equipment in:



How is that ^^ for an over-the-top, extravagant array of equipment, eh? A receiver AND a BD player AND a Wii?! I know - eat your envious hearts out, suckers!!

And finally, here is a shot of the back of the rack. It's such tight quarters there, underneath the stairs, that it's hard to get back enough to take a decent shot of it.



Maybe this angle gives a truer representation of it:



Now I just have to get the equipment properly hooked up ...



And to think that some people here questioned my ability to get this job done ...

post #1329 of 1763
I figured you were close to the hd antenna's in the area, where attic mount was good....

Looks like you got it going Hanes, keep up the good work!!

Where did you get your raised panel doors? I need to place an order for 5 raised panel doors and 1 set of bi-fold doors, need them pre-hung with holes already drilled.... Thx.
post #1330 of 1763
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I figured you were close to the hd antenna's in the area, where attic mount was good....

Looks like you got it going Hanes, keep up the good work!!

Where did you get your raised panel doors? I need to place an order for 5 raised panel doors and 1 set of bi-fold doors, need them pre-hung with holes already drilled.... Thx.

My carpenter ordered them through a local lumberyard, but I can't recall the name of it off hand. I'll check my receipts and see if I can find it.
post #1331 of 1763
Man, I'm tired just from reading about how much work that took you to wire up your closet. Well, really I skipped the reading part, but those pictures made me cringe.
post #1332 of 1763
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Man, I'm tired just from reading about how much work that took you to wire up your closet. Well, really I skipped the reading part, but those pictures made me cringe.

That's the beauty of my thread/blog: you can ignore the words and just from the photos alone manage to glean every piece of worthwhile information contained therein (i.e. absolutely none).

post #1333 of 1763
Plenty of room left for future proofing behind that rack Hanes. Just hope it doesn't look like this out at the pole.

post #1334 of 1763
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I'll have the one home run between the antenna and the media closet. For now that is all I'll need, as we only have one TV.

I know - one TV ... weird, right?

Hmmm...yes weird. Let me see here the number of people I know that have one tv is.......well now it's one. Ha, my parents have two, my inlaws have two, other family and friends have at least two, and I have (and I'm ashamed to admit this) 5 and when the theater finally gets here it will be six.

I'll even break it down, three plasmas, and two LCD's, not even an old tube in sight anymore.

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1335 of 1763
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Hmmm...yes weird. Let me see here the number of people I know that have one tv is.......well now it's one. Ha, my parents have two, my inlaws have two, other family and friends have at least two, and I have (and I'm ashamed to admit this) 5 and when the theater finally gets here it will be six.

I'll even break it down, three plasmas, and two LCD's, not even an old tube in sight anymore.

Regards,

RTROSE

I guess I'm old fashioned. I have only one high def TV(A 65" DLP) and two old CRT's.
post #1336 of 1763
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by Hanes: as we only have one TV.
Shocking, I know! I know - one TV ... weird, right?

OMG, only 1 tv ,

Talk about a very smart man right there, why oh why do we have to tell outselves that we need so many tv's? Would someone please tell me why we do this to ourselves??? Anyone who can do with one or two tv's are very strong....
I'd have a picture to share, but I'm at work, and don't' have access to my ever growing space of Hanes approved picture arsonal........
post #1337 of 1763
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... And that, in turn, meant needing to buy or borrow a drill, since the one I had been using so far had long ago been returned to it's rightful owner. (I know, I know -- how pathetic is it when a friend can't even have a tool out on the Indefinite Loan plan anymore? )

.....At any rate I've learned an important lesson here: a guy needs to pick his friends better, to make sure a few of them have a decent selection of tools to loan out to their friends! Otherwise things take much longer than they should!

Hanes.. Man, I feel for ya.. with friends like that its no wonder your build has been riddled with one delay after another...

I just want to let you know that you can borrow my Cordless Drill anytime and for as long as you need to...
post #1338 of 1763
Only one TV here as well. Actually we have a projector as well, but the content for the TV is either or.

Either the TV gets the content, or the projector does. Not both (there both reside in the family room).

To top that off, the TV is a 26" Hi Def (1080i) Samsung.... Old school FTW!!!
post #1339 of 1763
Hanes,

Looks like you have a gathering of 1 TV freaks round here. May be you should start a "one TV club" or something. Since your progress on your theater is so slow you should have the time!

Oh no he didn't!

Regards,

RTROSE
post #1340 of 1763
RTrose,

I think its a gathering of sensible midwesterner's, that harkens back to our viking days... (Who needs more than one helmet anyhow?)

Hanes on his day off.
post #1341 of 1763
Dear Hanes,

post #1342 of 1763
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Hanes.. Man, I feel for ya.. with friends like that its no wonder your build has been riddled with one delay after another...

I just want to let you know that you can borrow my Cordless Drill anytime and for as long as you need to...

Thanks - I may take you up on your offer next time I need a drill! I actually had a drill like that once upon a time ... it was just my speed! Wonder where it went?
post #1343 of 1763
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Where did you get your raised panel doors? I need to place an order for 5 raised panel doors and 1 set of bi-fold doors, need them pre-hung with holes already drilled.... Thx.

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Originally Posted by hanesian View Post

My carpenter ordered them through a local lumberyard, but I can't recall the name of it off hand. I'll check my receipts and see if I can find it.

It was Sherer Brothers Lumber. As I recall they were a touch more expensive than one of the big box stores, but my carpenter insisted the quality difference was worth it as well, and we were also buying some trim/mill work from them and delivery was included, so we went with them for the doors as well.
post #1344 of 1763
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Thanks for all that grief-giving from the usual suspects, as well as that of the more recent Twin Cities contingent (Chad, Noah & Fusion). I may have to awaken the Sleeping Giant (BWCAfishing) to come over and keep you guys in line!

In the meantime I've stumbled through with a tiny bit more progress, although nothing that lends itself well to photos: Pete the Tall Electrician finished connecting a few more electric circuits at the breaker box so finally almost all of the outlets are now active and in use. I pitched in by installing a few more light switches, outlets, dimmers, closet lights & such, so now I have just a few more outlets in the laundry area to wire in and that should be it for electric in the basement!

Here is the only photo worth showing related to this push: the outlet above the fireplace.



And just to show you that I actually know what and where the breaker box is ...



Pretty impressive display of electrical knowledge, no?

I could have never done it without the crucial help of my talented electrical subcontractors, pictured below hard at work "helping" ol' Uncle Hanes the Workerman:



At least they brought their own tools along ...
post #1345 of 1763
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It was Sherer Brothers Lumber. As I recall they were a touch more expensive than one of the big box stores, but my carpenter insisted the quality difference was worth it as well, and we were also buying some trim/mill work from them and delivery was included, so we went with them for the doors as well.

Sherer Bros is a great place for better quality products, for sure, but they are a bit more expensive, so better product for better lastability, good call!!

I will give them a call, and get some prices, thanks!
post #1346 of 1763
The SleepingGiant? Sounds like a challenge...

Purebred viking (born in Sweden, move to Minnesota.. go figure). 6'9" 275 here...
post #1347 of 1763
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The SleepingGiant? Sounds like a challenge...

Purebred viking (born in Sweden, move to Minnesota.. go figure). 6'9" 275 here...

Oh that's right - you and your dad are both basketball playing height and then some - I almost forgot! Who knew they even grew 'em that big in Sweden?!

BWCAfishing (a.k.a. Sasquatch) is just a relative shorty at 6' 4" or 6'5", but he's an expert on some sort of online war world video game, so his craziness and hairiness helps compensate for his "shorter" stature!
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post #1349 of 1763
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FusionRx,

When in the world are you going to start your own build thread?!

Någon jätte som kan installera trägolv som du måste ha sina egna bygga tråd!
post #1350 of 1763
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FusionRx,

When in the world are you going to start your own build thread?!

Någon jätte som kan installera trägolv som du måste ha sina egna bygga tråd!

Sheesh, ni alla är freaks, vet ni vad jag hade att gå igenom bara för att räkna ut vad du sa Hanes? Du har rätt, om du har kunskap att lägga trägolv du verkligen behöver ha en egen tråd och sluta threadjacking andra folk trådar.

Hälsningar,

RTROSE
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