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post #1141 of 1613
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Originally Posted by gqarmstrong View Post

which model do you have dvd123?

Go with the B590. The image quality is comparable on both models but if you are watching it in a bright lit room or if you are near a window during the day time get the 590.
post #1142 of 1613
gqarmstrong,

I have the 550.

I have not seen the 590 down here in Mexico in the local stores, if I had maybe I would have gotten that one. But is the most expensive always the best? When I first saw the 550, with out looking at the price, I was sure it would be way more than I would want to pay and it almost was.
post #1143 of 1613
I have a bright window looking at my 550, 30ft. away, and I had to put in a window blind because of the bad reflection. After the window blind was up no more reflection unless you really looked for it. I'm sure the window blind would be cheaper than paying more for the 590 over the 550.
post #1144 of 1613
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Originally Posted by DVD123 View Post

gqarmstrong,

I have the 550.

I have not seen the 590 down here in Mexico in the local stores, if I had maybe I would have gotten that one. But is the most expensive always the best? When I first saw the 550, with out looking at the price, I was sure it would be way more than I would want to pay and it almost was.

Shoot, you should get either one cheaper in Mexico, since there should be no import fees. The are made in Mexico. Do you work at the plant.
post #1145 of 1613
Have you guys noticed that you get better black levels if you change from 24hz to 60hz while watching a 24fps movie?
People say that 60hz gives much better blacks. You should be able to set the hz in your bluray player, media center or htpc.
post #1146 of 1613
jerryez,

I paid 54,000 Pesos for it, look for the difference from Peso to Dollar. I don't work anymore I have more fun this way.
post #1147 of 1613
Are the internal speakers turned on? Disconnect anything connected to the audio out and see if the internal speakers work. I assume the on/off sounds come through the internal speakers regardless of the menu setting.

You can turn those tones off in the plug-n-play menu called "Melody".
post #1148 of 1613
Edit: Gah, I'm a dumbass. My punishment will be a romantic evening with the on-off chime. Thanks for the quick reply GG.
post #1149 of 1613
Fix to buzzing?

So, my 590 started really buzzing again last night. It was the loudest to date. (It's more noticeable now that I have it wall mounted in a recessed opening above the fireplace.)

Anyway, I did a bit of trouble shooting and learned, on my TV at least, that: (1) the buzz definitely comes from the power source; (2) 85%+ of the actual noise/"buzz" is actually the vibration of the metal back on the TV.

Simple fix: I placed 2 felts pads in between the mount brackets and the metal back. This "bent" the back in about 1/16th of an inch and the pressure eliminated the annoying part of the buzz. The remaining sound - which is the power supply - is perfectly acceptable and barely noticeable.

I've tried watching all white screens, where the buzz is the worst, and there's no problem now.

Just an FYI in case you have the same problem.
post #1150 of 1613
Might be worth a try if it's a wall mount. You might want to post that in the buzz thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...144869&page=72

I think what you did just put pressure on the back cover panel to keep the cover panel from amplifying the buzz.

I'm on a stand, no wall mount. Before they swapped it out, the back cover vibrated and made for an annoying buzz. After they swapped out my panel (everything but the power supply and frame), the back cover panel after the swap didn't add anything at all to the buzz.

The remaining buzz is from all the circuit boards, but is now at a barely tolerable level. Different circuit boards, somewhat lower buzz.
post #1151 of 1613
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Originally Posted by gone-shootin View Post

Fix to buzzing?

So, my 590 started really buzzing again last night. It was the loudest to date. (It's more noticeable now that I have it wall mounted in a recessed opening above the fireplace.)

Anyway, I did a bit of trouble shooting and learned: (1) the buzz definitely comes from the power source; (2) 85%+ of the actual noise/"buzz" is actually the vibration of the metal back on the TV.

Simple fix: I placed 2 felts pads in between the mount brackets and the metal back. This "bent" the back in about 1/16th of an inch and the pressure eliminated the annoying part of the buzz. The remaining sound - which is the power supply - is perfectly acceptable and barely noticeable.

I've tried watching all white screens, where the buzz is the worst, and there's no problem now.

Just an FYI in case you have the same problem.

pictures?
post #1152 of 1613
I'm planning on mounting my 550 behind the wall so that the tv is flush. Where does the sound come out of the tv? In the back? Does anyone have thir tv mounted this way and know how it will effect the sound?
thanks.
post #1153 of 1613
I think what you did just put pressure on the back cover panel to keep the cover panel from amplifying the buzz.

Correct. This is exactly what I did.

Seems to me, the back cover panel just isn't tightened down enough. Again, if it were a larger problem on my particular set, I'd still hear a loud buzz after applying the pressure. And if this a global problem, a REALLY easy and inexpensive fix would be for Samsung to create a basic foam or rubber gasket/ring that's 1/4 inch wide and sits around the sets back, outside edge. But, they have million dollar engineers who are a lot smarter than me designing all of this stuff, so I don't think they missed this idea!

I'm curious... did the buzz go away on yours when you applied pressure to the back before it was fixed?
post #1154 of 1613
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Originally Posted by joeyo1313 View Post

I'm planning on mounting my 550 behind the wall so that the tv is flush. Where does the sound come out of the tv? In the back? Does anyone have thir tv mounted this way and know how it will effect the sound?
thanks.

The speakers are at the bottom of the panel directly below the screen. They face down, not out.

I'm thinking you'll want to have at least 4 inches of clearance behind and 1 1/2 below the TV for the sound. Otherwise, the sound waves won't "escape" and it might be muffled and/or distorted.

The speakers are surprisingly good for a TV this thin. I turn the "Clear Voice" setting on but leave the SRS off. I rarely have my volume above 25 on the TVs volume scale of 0-100, and it fills the room. Obviously, the low end bass is lacking, but for normal TV viewing, it's surprisingly fine.

Sounds like your TV is mounted the same as mine. Mine is on a Level Mount bracket that extends 14 inches. The cavity is 12 inches deep with 1 1/2 inches of clearance around the sides the TV. My TV sits flush with the face of the wall which leaves about 6 inches of clearance in the back. I've also left open ports in the cavity above the TV to allow for venting.

HOWEVER, I'm VERY pleasantly surprised with how cool of a temperature this set runs. While the screen kicks off a good bit of heat, there's virtually no temperature difference in the wall cavity and the room temperature. The back panel is barely warm and the internal fans are barely audible. I was thinking I'd add 2 computer cpu fans to help for venting. Now, I'm thinking this TV could have been set with basically zero clearance. But, better to be safe than sorry.
post #1155 of 1613
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Originally Posted by The Bleed View Post

Go with the B590. The image quality is comparable on both models but if you are watching it in a bright lit room or if you are near a window during the day time get the 590.

that"s the thing, my plasma will go in the basement right in the same place as my previous plasma tv with no glare protection and glare was never an issue.

so if pic quality is the same then the 550 seems to be the pick for me
post #1156 of 1613
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Originally Posted by gone-shootin View Post

[i]I'm curious... did the buzz go away on yours when you applied pressure to the back before it was fixed?

Nope. It just stopped the back cover from making the buzz even more annoying.

The buzz thread has already mentioned, then trashed, the idea that spacers or some sort of rubber washers on the back cover will fix the problem.
post #1157 of 1613
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Originally Posted by gone-shootin View Post

The speakers are at the bottom of the panel directly below the screen. They face down, not out.

I'm thinking you'll want to have at least 4 inches of clearance behind and 1 1/2 below the TV for the sound. Otherwise, the sound waves won't "escape" and it might be muffled and/or distorted.

The speakers are surprisingly good for a TV this thin. I turn the "Clear Voice" setting on but leave the SRS off. I rarely have my volume above 25 on the TVs volume scale of 0-100, and it fills the room. Obviously, the low end bass is lacking, but for normal TV viewing, it's surprisingly fine.

Sounds like your TV is mounted the same as mine. Mine is on a Level Mount bracket that extends 14 inches. The cavity is 12 inches deep with 1 1/2 inches of clearance around the sides the TV. My TV sits flush with the face of the wall which leaves about 6 inches of clearance in the back. I've also left open ports in the cavity above the TV to allow for venting.

HOWEVER, I'm VERY pleasantly surprised with how cool of a temperature this set runs. While the screen kicks off a good bit of heat, there's virtually no temperature difference in the wall cavity and the room temperature. The back panel is barely warm and the internal fans are barely audible. I was thinking I'd add 2 computer cpu fans to help for venting. Now, I'm thinking this TV could have been set with basically zero clearance. But, better to be safe than sorry.

The plan was to mount the tv on a wall built behind the wall. Totally flush with no open areas. I guess I'll just have to use the receiver all the time. i'll post a pic when I'm done with the build.
post #1158 of 1613
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Originally Posted by GeekGirl View Post

Nope. It just stopped the back cover from making the buzz even more annoying.

The buzz thread has already mentioned, then trashed, the idea that spacers or some sort of rubber washers on the back cover will fix the problem.

Interesting.

When pressure is applied to the back of my TVs panel, the buzz is nearly inaudible; without it, borderline unbearable.

I'll be honest, I haven't read the various threads on the buzzing. I just know what worked in this instance.

GeekGirl: Actually, I've now read most of the buzz thread. Thanks for posting the pictures of your panel with the cover off and the various fixes. It seems I have the lessor of the 2 buzzes. While there is the electronic "whine", I don't have any screen buzz. Thanks again.
post #1159 of 1613
From the Samsung Buzzing forum / thread .. There seems to be a Samsung Germany fix to this issue. Now if only Samsung USA would adopt the fix from Germany!!
post #1160 of 1613
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Originally Posted by desiguy2447 View Post

From the Samsung Buzzing forum / thread .. There seems to be a Samsung Germany fix to this issue. Now if only Samsung USA would adopt the fix from Germany!!



Actually, they have, in at least one instance. Within the last 10-15 pages of this thread, someone posted that his/her set in the US was repaired by an authorized repair company using the Germany fix. Don't know, however, if this was just a "rogue" repair company or if Samsung has recommended this fix globally.
post #1161 of 1613
From the Samsung Buzz Thread.. Seems the rubber cubes are now in the database as a fix for the Buzz. As reported by another member today.

Going to wait a few a days, before calling Samsung to get the rubber cubes put in the TV to hopefully cure the Buzzing to a low level. (Since the database was just updated)...
post #1162 of 1613
so i have a sxrd60a3000 , and i love the picture. will the 63b590 be a step up in t.v . and how about watching bluray in 24p . my sony handels judder very well. does the sammy do the same. also i live in colorado at 6,500 feet are the sammys rated? i sure hope the sammy is a good for me because i dont see paying extra for the 65 v10.
post #1163 of 1613
Thread Starter 
^^^ NADA, Samsungs are not rated that high, last I remeber they where at 5000FT. Be careful !
post #1164 of 1613
nesto719,

I live in Mexico at 5,200 feet so their going up all the time.

Oh and by the way I love my 63B550
post #1165 of 1613
Everyone must be happy and busy watching their PN63B550, since no one is posting to this thread. Woops got to go watch mine now~! Bye
post #1166 of 1613
jerryez,

I see you have a Dish ViP HD DVR receiver w/external hard drive. I just picked up a hard drive for my Dish 612 receiver. Sure nice to be able to save a lot of movies to show off my 63B550 TV.
Sorry, I know this a forum for the 63B550 just had to add that in.
post #1167 of 1613
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Originally Posted by nesto719 View Post

so i have a sxrd60a3000 , and i love the picture. will the 63b590 be a step up in t.v . and how about watching bluray in 24p . my sony handels judder very well. does the sammy do the same. also i live in colorado at 6,500 feet are the sammys rated? i sure hope the sammy is a good for me because i dont see paying extra for the 65 v10.

I went from a 60A3000 to a 63B590 a week ago. Like you, I loved the A3000, but there is no comparison between the two sets re PQ. You won't be disappointed with the change.
post #1168 of 1613
After much research and reading the AVS forums, I finally ordered my PN63B550! I'm pretty excited because the largest TV ive ever personally owned was a 40" Sony LCD and I had no clue how large a 63" is going to look! I'm guessing 63" is bigger in person than even these pictures portray it to be. I'll admit I am pretty concerned about not being able to see this set in person before I purchase it. I think our local BestBuy has a pn50b550 but not the 63" or the 58". I'm also worried about getting this infamous "buzz" that many samsung plasma's are having from this years line-up. I wonder how common these buzzers are? Reading here makes it seem like it's almost 50/50 chance, but it makes since that if someone has a problem they usually first go to the internet, so in the big scheme of things hopefully I'll end up lucky.

Again, so excited to get this set. This will be such a major jump from what i'm used to and i've never spend this kind of money on a TV before.
post #1169 of 1613
I'm not so sure this buzz issue isn't way overblown. If you have a buzzing problem you turn to the internet to research the problem which may lead you here which then leads you into a discussion of buzzing. I would say that the percentage of all TV purchasers that don't have a buzz problem vs the AVS members that do have a problem is very small. Because of the concentration of reports of buzzing here at this website the problem appears to be more widespread than it actually is. I may be wrong about this, it's just my take on this issue. I have a PN50B530 with no buzz at all, knock on wood.
post #1170 of 1613
Yeah, I hope im lucky in regards to the buzzing. Another thing that I somewhat question is i've had people tell me not to worry about having to break a plasma in and with todays plasmas it's really not too big of an issue and that it'll be fine in time and picture will get better. While on the other hand I read here and have heard that some people go as far as burning the break-in DVD to run during the hours they aren't using it.

Dumb question but... me being just a normal consumer do I have to break-in my TV through some method of DVD? I mean, can I actually cause perminant burn-in? Or is it just an issue of early on i may have some pretty decent imagine retention?

I've read the burn-in stickies on this forum but im just curious if there is an actually threat to my TV if i dont do some break-in DVD or set my settings low?

This'll be my first plasma and I just want to do things right !
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